Trump's America (Casino & Slots!)

[RottingCorpse]

The way I differentiate the Cold War nuke threat from Trump is that as an adult, I recognize the nuke threat of our childhood (late 70s and early 80s) as the propaganda it was. We didn't fear the bomb the way our parents feared the bomb.

We also felt that even with Reagan, we at least had competent people involved. Reagan may have been a bit soft in the memory department in the last half of his administration, but you got the impression that he had at least surrounded himself with people who had an inkling of how to run a rodeo.  The Trump show feels way to close to a Marx Brothers movie version of how a presidency is supposed to run.

It's not the nuke threat itself that's scary. It's the fact that his ego is such that he might push us to the brink of something bad just because he feels slighted. And Japan being nuked (the likely NK target for their hack job missile) would be bad on all levels, economically, environmentally, and politically.

[nacho]

Well, yes. He will destroy us all. But it'll come from within, not without. Ware Middle America, my friend. Our true enemy is the redneck sitting next to us.

[Sirharles]

Our true enemy is the redneck sitting next to us.

Hey!

I just imagine someone took a Staples button and taped the word "Nuke" on top of it and put it on Trumps desk.

[Sirharles]

Also, I agree with Twitter.  They can't ban him.  That's just a slippery slope.

[RottingCorpse]

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't even think they should ban the racist psychopaths because even there it's a slippery slope. The official position that people are arguing is Twitter's rule against "threatening others" which folks claim he did with the whole button fiasco.

WHHEEEEEEEEE!

[nacho]

On Twitter: I also agree. In fact, I'm against banning anyone on social media. We all dug this grave and opened up this voice for literally every single person on the planet. And now we're surprised that this anonymous, free, global public forum is riddled with trolls and monsters, rapists and stalkers, predators and murderers? Every single day countless people willfully decide to do all these terrible things to other people in real life. We all know this. So what did we expect?

I feel like we've asked for this, and it's ignorance to be outraged when it happens. Plus, we have the power to stop it. We can block/mute, we can ignore/move on with our lives. We can silence the offenders and personalize/lock/protect our streams. 

[nacho]

So I think we should draw the line at Trump asking for a triumph.

[RottingCorpse]

The hammer will drop in April.

[nacho]

The hammer will drop in April.

I've stopped following everything (the triumph was inescapable). What happened?

[RottingCorpse]

Nothing yet, but Mueller is being inanely meticulous which is way your predicted November hammer drop didn't happen. I work with a guy who's deep in to the hacker/pirate world and the word there is that the metadata trail is so wide and full, Mueller's not simply asking people, "Did you meet with with so-and-so?" He's asking, "So at 10:23 during your meeting with Igor Baronkov, You disced memo #245-B before forwarding it to the RNC, Who was the intended recipient of that memo?"

Mueller isn't interested in busting Trump, but on seeing how deep his thing goes.

Also, this problem won't be solved criminally, but politically. Trump may lose the job and get charged with Obstruction of justice, but the deer problem that isn't going away with Trump is that Russia has infiltrated and compromised the election process of the United States.

But it all goes June '72 batshit in April. Remember I said it.

Here's CNN's vanilla take on it all:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/06/politics/new-documents-mueller-investigation-trump-transition/index.html

EDIT:
This Wired Piece is much better at explaining it.
https://www.wired.com/story/bob-muellers-investigation-is-largerand-further-alongthan-you-think/

[Sirharles]

I don't know what's more fascinating, the news or RC's auto correct. 

[nacho]

I'm deep into the pirate/hacker world and all the talk there is about how to get a rip of a Chinese blu ray of Black Panther.

I bet no hammer drops! I bet this is like all the other times we said a hammer would drop (See: Iran-Contra). Watergate happened because Nixon used disreputable gung-ho lunatics to do his black bag shit and Hoover wasn't around to clean it up anymore. If a slightly better class of criminal were involved at the ground floor, then there would have been no Watergate. The investigations didn't begin because of Nixon's actions, rather they incidentally exposed Nixon's actions.

Trump's proven himself to be Teflon. Even if a hammer does appear to be coming, he'll do something radical like fire Ivanka and the media will dutifully flood our eyes and ears with that shocking upset and then move on to dogs who like to ski.   

[RottingCorpse]

Again, Trump is just a symptom of a deeper problem. Trump will only get charged with obstruction of justice which means the worst that happens is a a Bill Clinton situation. He might lose the job, but then we just get Pence or god help us Paul Ryan. Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Papadopolous, Page and others will get crunched in this.

The bigger issue is what happens when we find out how deep this thing goes. When we find out the RNC and maybe even the DNC were compromised. Demi are all about the pitchforks now, but what happens when it's their neck under the guillotine.

The Trump campaign folks know they're caught which why their trying to discredit the FBI. And I wonder if that's Putin's long game in all this.

[RottingCorpse]

We're living in Adam Curtis' world now, aren't we?

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590076949/depth-of-russian-politicians-cultivation-of-nra-ties-revealed

[nacho]

We're living in Adam Curtis' world now, aren't we?

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590076949/depth-of-russian-politicians-cultivation-of-nra-ties-revealed

Have been for 40 years.