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Children of the Sun => TV => Topic started by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2018, 12:51:43 PM

Title: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2018, 12:51:43 PM
Holy shit!!

Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on February 15, 2018, 06:34:56 PM
Oui
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 16, 2018, 10:35:03 AM
I can totally get behind that!
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 16, 2018, 11:49:44 AM
I loved the original Karate Kid. Part II was great as well.
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 16, 2018, 12:28:59 PM
I loved the original Karate Kid. Part II was great as well.


And...that was it!
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 16, 2018, 02:36:51 PM
You've blocked out part III, haven't you?



And...

Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 16, 2018, 03:08:49 PM
Ssshhh. It didn't happen.
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 16, 2018, 03:21:48 PM
Denial ain't a river in Egypt.
Title: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2018, 04:31:23 PM
Holy shit!!


If this ends up being a commercial for Geico or some shit, I'll be pissed.

Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Hard to tell these days.
Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 22, 2018, 12:12:52 AM
Wha...?! I just... WHAT?!?

(Shock aside, I think this looks amazing.)

Title: Re: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 22, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
I am 100% on board!
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 30, 2018, 12:18:57 PM
Split out into it's own thread because I'm obsessed.

I have such high hopes for this...

Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2018, 02:34:56 PM
I'm all about this.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 30, 2018, 03:00:48 PM
So, which one of us is joining YouTube Red for one day on May 2?
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on April 02, 2018, 06:03:36 PM
So, which one of us is joining YouTube Red for one day on May 2?

It will be acquired via other means.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 08, 2018, 12:06:52 AM
I binged the whole first season last night and have barely stopped thinking about it since.

The Karate Kid was one of those essential movies I saw as a kid. "Kid" is the operative word because the movie didn't necessarily stay with me past the age of, say, thirteen. (I use the term "movie" intentionally. I don't dare call it a film.) To me, it was one of those movies that shaped my view of what being a teenager would be once I got though school. As you might suspect, my high school experience wasn't exactly like Daniel Larusso's (Or Johnny Lawrence's). But my nine(?)-year-old brain said, "Sure. I'll believe it's like that." The original movie was a weird parable about finding your "thing;" that activity/hobby/passion that defines you as a person as you become an adult. For me it was movies and writing, for others it was sports or science. For some folks, it was karate.

This new series is about the men we became after that discovery. I'm not going to spoil anything, but I was shocked by how closely the inner drama of Daniel-San and Johnny mirrored my own middle-aged insecurities. And it does this despite haphazard writing, mediocre acting, and lower production value than you might expect. There's a cheese flavor to the proceedings that's easy to swallow because if you think about it, the whole premise of The Karate Kid was kind of cheesy... unless you were nine when you saw it.

The premise of Cobra Kai is so great because these are two guys who never left home and have gotten trapped in the personas they inhabited as teenagers. What's great is they become surrounded by a group of kids with similar pathos. The symbolism, even in it's heavy handedness, has this weird yet honest emotional weight.

Immediately after watching it,  I thought the end over-played it's hand and lost some nuance, particularly when it comes to the kids' arcs. However, upon second consideration, if you think of it as the adults' story, where all the kids' journeys end up kind of makes sense. It's a show about the teachers who defined us for better or worse, and how they shaped the mentors we are, whether we accept that role or not. And that these kids end up choosing "a side" falls squarely on the shoulders of the men teaching them.

I know, right? I was shocked at how deep it resonated. And maybe it's just because when I was nine, The Karate Kid was the deepest piece of "art" I had. All that said, Cobra Kai is lovingly done, and overcomes all it's myriad flaws to become a cohesive whole.

RC says check it out.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on May 08, 2018, 09:17:41 AM
Yeah, going to try and get in a few episodes today.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on May 09, 2018, 11:15:06 AM
So I made it through four episodes. It's cute, and fun, and nostalgic. But... I don't know. I kept wondering: Why bother? There's also a certain grim undercurrent, which RC talked about. That's also okay and fun...but... I don't know. The word over-analyzed comes to mind?
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 10, 2018, 11:19:21 AM
You mean when like somebody makes a serious, dark version of something like the Power Rangers?

That's interesting. To me, Cobra Kai always stayed light on it's feet enough to keep it from getting too dark and try to become something grander than it should. But I don't begrudge anybody who sees past what works to see it for the crass money-grab it is.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on May 13, 2018, 12:26:46 PM
The problem, which I'm encountering more and more frequently, is that there's Too Much Good TV. A relatively recent problem. 10-15 years ago, Cobra Kai would have been brilliant. But now I have 20-30 hours a week of good new TV (or will give it a try TV or time to binge the last season because we've waited 18 months for the new season TV) to keep up with.

I find that the entire season dumps make it even more difficult. So what was, in the Beforetime, a weekly commitment of just 25-45 minutes is now "YOU HAVE 4 SECONDS UNTIL THE NEXT EPISODE!!! STAY!!!! STAY THERE!!!! STAY!!! STAY THERE FOR 10 HOURS!!!!"
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 14, 2018, 05:23:45 PM
This is why I don't watch anything.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2018, 12:05:47 PM
Okay. I'm going to finish this today.

Miyagi's gravestone is the real star!
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2018, 02:22:26 PM
So. yeah, this was totally unnecessary. But I appreciate the redemption aspect of the story. And the "danger of nostalgia" theme...always close to home for me these days.
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 05, 2019, 01:19:51 PM
Oof. Overkill. The original was cool and cute and out of nowhere, and therefore charmed me. This is just more cultural homogeny disguised as nostalgia porn.

Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: nacho on April 16, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Oof. Overkill. The original was cool and cute and out of nowhere, and therefore charmed me. This is just more cultural homogeny disguised as nostalgia porn.


Well, well, well. :colbert:
Title: Re: Cobra Kai
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 16, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Touche.