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Title: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 02:10:10 PM
Ah, the local elections.  Which, as everyone here knows, I think are more important than the presidential elections since these are the ignorant fucking monsters who put highways through our living rooms and ban Charlotte's Web.

Our Maryland moment:

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If, as expected, former governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. announces in coming days that he is running again, he apparently won't have the Republican field to himself.

Political newcomer Brian Murphy -- or more accurately, Murphy's campaign manager -- called Monday to let us know that he is out there as well and won't be deterred by Ehrlich's entrance into the race.

"I think I'm the best person to work with the private sector and change the anti-business climate in Maryland," said Murphy, 32, a former commodities trader with Constellation Energy who now owns an investment group. "Spending is out of control, and there's a credibility gap in Washington and Annapolis."

Monday was the first time Murphy had alerted The Post to his candidacy. He said he has spent weeks reaching out to the grass roots in the state party.

"I'm out there. I'm credible," Murphy said.

Murphy has yet to file. His campaign manager, Meghan Mueller, said Murphy plans to do so in coming weeks, once he has a lieutenant governor candidate nailed down.

Murphy said that aside from his own money, he expects to raise about $250,000 in coming weeks for his bid. Ehrlich, as a point of reference, has said he expects to raise about $10 million.

Murphy, a Chevy Chase resident, said his fledgling political career was inspired by the political legacy of conservative Republican Jack Kemp. He noted that if elected, he would be 33 years old when he is sworn in -- a year older than Democrat Bill Clinton was when he became governor of Arkansas.

I've sort of given up hope for the governorship.  Maryland's Democrats have become weak and diseased.  It's like watching some inbred patrician family's slow decay into madness.

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Matt on March 30, 2010, 02:53:25 PM
Democrats in general are weak and diseased.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 02:57:49 PM
Ah.... Don't cry for me, Maryland!
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 30, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
I don't even know what's up for the mid-terms in VA. We just got a new governor so that's out.

The big local story is Mayor of DC, right? Since everybody hates Fenty, people can't understand why no one's running against him.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 03:08:47 PM
Nobody's running against him because, despite the fact that his approval ratings are about to dip into the 30's, he was mysteriously able to raise more money in the first week of January than has been raised during the entire lead-ups to the last two elections. 

Thank god he owns all those crack houses, eh? Who can run against someone who can get an extra million with a snap of his fingers?

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
Well, well... The Linda Cropp spot must be possessed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_C._Gray

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D.C. Council Chairman Vincent Gray will enter the mayoral race tomorrow, close sources tell LL, ending months of deliberations.

Gray will file papers with the city campaign finance office shortly before 2 p.m.; he will address a small group of supporters outside the Frank D. Reeves Center afterward, the sources say. A larger campaign kickoff will follow at a later date.

Gray's entry represents the first serious threat to Mayor Adrian M. Fenty's re-election; several head-to-head polls done in recent months show Gray leading Fenty or in a statistical dead hear. It also means that Gray, 68 67, is forfeiting a sure re-election to another four-year term as chairman, opening up a scramble among his council colleagues for the seat.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 05:00:51 PM
And he gaffes within the first five minutes!


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    Good afternoon everybody. I am absolutely delighted to be here filing my papers to run for mayor of the District of Columbia. For those of you who don't know, and I'd be happy to repeat it as many times as I do, I'm a native Washingtonian, I'm a graduate of the public schools of the District of Columbia, I went to George Washington University. In essence, I am a dyed in the wool homey. I absolutely love this city and I'm delighted to be able to step up to provide additional leadership in the District of Columbia. I look forward to a wonderful campaign, I look forward to connecting with everybody I possibly can in the city. The reality is, we can do better in the District of Columbia. We can do better. We can do better. And we will be talking about the ways in which we can do better during the course of this campaign. The campaign starts today. It started at 2:22 p.m. today. We look forward to continuing to do the business of the city but most of all connecting with every voter that we possibly can to get our message out about why I will be the best candidate for mayor in the District of Columbia.

At that point, WRC-TV's Tom Sherwood asked, "What's that message?"

Said Gray: "We're gonna talk about all that as the campaign unfolds. As you all well know, there will be plenty of opportunity for us to talk about the issues; we will talk about any issue that anyone wants to talk about. But today is a day for celebration. Today is an opportunity to think upon the fact that we've filed, and we will talk about all of the issues later."
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 30, 2010, 05:15:02 PM
Jesus . . . what a moron.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on March 30, 2010, 06:43:53 PM
And official...

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Former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R) said Tuesday that he will try to win his job back in November, confirming plans for a much-anticipated rematch with Gov. Martin O'Malley, the Democrat who defeated him in a bitter contest four years ago. Ehrlich said he plans an official announcement April 7 in Montgomery County, setting up a fight for a second term between two of the state's dominant political personalities, both of whom are fierce competitors and don't particularly like each other.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Cassander on March 31, 2010, 09:53:24 PM
Here in Louisiana there's only one major race, Senator David "yeah, i used the DC Madam that later killed herself and still got re-elected without really even apologizing and have spent the last four years still pounding on and on about family values" Vitter is facing a Blue Dog democrat House congressman who had his guts run through the ringer on the healthcare bill.  Vitter's going to win again and continue to waste oxygen and space in Congress by filing crazy bills about firing Scud missiles at mexican immigrants or something.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 14, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
I love voting in the Maryland Democrat primary because everybody is unopposed and most of them have been in office for my entire life. It's like I'm voting for my immortal vampire gods.

Though we do get some options.  O'Malley versus Guy I've Never Heard of Till Today.  And, of course, my habitual vote against Van Hollen.

Thinking I might do an anti Van Hollen article every Tuesday starting today up till the election. Do it Oscar bin Laden style. Let's see if I find the time to do that today at stupid APA...

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 15, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
Oh!  Vince Gray takes DC... and America's third party is going to be the Tea Party?  Really? How sad.

One interesting thing (historically speaking) is that this is how political parties in America change -- they simply morph from within.  A party is never really replaced by a new one, the old party simply withers (or implodes or shatters), and the core group within the party rebrand themselves. In fact, the GOP was born out of the Whigs in much the same fashion that the Tea Party is emerging.  Granted, all that happened in the 1850's and was much more Victorian and dramatic (with Civil War as the backdrop), so this is a much more subtle and calm emergence... But if these Tea Party fucks who get voted in come November manage to not self destruct, then we're looking at our new conservative party folks.

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Tatertots on September 15, 2010, 02:06:01 PM
God-willing, they'll alienate moderates. Or, you know, they'll run the country into the ground.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 15, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
They'll do the latter.

And this country deserves it. The ultimate victory of the vast, middle-American, redneck-religious machine. No matter how much the coastlines try to fight it, you've got tens of millions of very active voters living lives riddled by superstition and paranoia.  The entire countryside, with few exceptions, is alarmingly reminiscent of Europe in the 600's AD.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 15, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
The GOP has a real chance to totally reinvent itself right now as the true moderate party in the States. Let the Deomocrats be the socialist liberal lefties and let the Tea Partiers be the ultra-conservative righties. With the right leadership and strategy, The GOP could be the sensible alternative in the middle.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 15, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
I can't see the Democrats being socialist liberal lefties at all.  It's a centrist party. The most radical elements (Biden, Boxer, etc) are centrists.

Our problem is that we have two middle of the road parties. One has an emerging core of conservative freaks, and the other has no core at all. Which is worrisome.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Cassander on September 15, 2010, 10:06:15 PM
I don't even want to think about it right now.  Despite the media frenzy, I just don't buy that a big torrent of seat changes is going to take place, and if it does, all the races will be close and the losers will just be losers, not people with the wrong ideas or rhetoric.  And every Tea Party idiot that does get elected is going to be immediately walled off by the moderates because they won't play ball and won't even want to learn how to play ball.  Seriously, if you're a leader in the republican party, who are you going to assign to the Ways and Means committee?  Rhonda Scrotumswallow from Nebraska who wants to cut off all aid to the unemployed or Todd Swingdick from Georgia who brings all his donors to the table and only wants a few government contracts in exchange.

Plus, can anyone tell me how cutting taxes down to almost nothing is any different than just spending money like it's going out of style?  How does that leave the country any better off? MY BRAIN HURTS!!!
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 15, 2010, 10:50:55 PM
It starts small, Cass.  And it'll be fueled by middle America.  What happens when Rhonda Scrotumswallow is returned to office every two years with a 70% margin?  And Todd Swingdick has to pander to those sorts to keep his head above water because Suzie Creamcheese is creeping around threatening to steal the seat for the Dems?
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Cassander on September 16, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
I don't know.  I just don't believe that the fringe can start dictating policy, even if a few members get elected.  Kucinich is a good example on the other side.  He hasn't really started a movement and had more people follow him.  He's just really popular in his district. 

More and more I find it hard to believe that "national mood" or some kind of massive movement affects congressional races.  It almost always comes down to how one candidate is perceived over another in their district.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 16, 2010, 10:29:51 AM
People only follow Kucinich because of his wife.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 16, 2010, 11:15:05 AM
Tea party = racist old guard who will be dead in twenty years . . . It'll pass. We might have to deal with some shit, but it'll pass.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 16, 2010, 12:14:26 PM
Now, I will admit that I'm not following any of this, but the Tea Party seems to have a very youthful face. And racism is an American tradition, RC. It's not going to go away. We live in a society that's still heavily segregated, albeit in a more passive way. Hell, I'm sitting in an office right now in the heart of a "liberal" company where my female and minority senior peers are making less than I am.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 16, 2010, 01:35:13 PM
The candidates are youthful, but most of the supporters skew older an white. In 21st America, I don't see how a movement like that can last.

Plus, I always get the impression that the whole thing has this weird passive-aggressive "The South Will Rise Again" vibe. Go to some of the Tea Party blogs. The vibe is hateful, xenophobic, and ugly.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on September 16, 2010, 04:02:24 PM
LOL

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 16, 2010, 05:23:19 PM
And that's the logic of these fuckers, which is why the movement is doomed to fail.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Cassander on September 17, 2010, 01:42:11 AM
And that's the logic of these fuckers, which is why the movement is doomed to fail.

Lack of logic has never stopped anyone from staying in Congress for decades.

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RC, you're right that racism as a policy will never last long in government, but while it seems like a standard issue ideology for Tea Party people, it's really just about identity for them.  "I'm not an illegal alien, I'm not a terrorist, I'm not a gay....don't I deserve some attention?"  These people honestly believe the government is just funneling cash to everyone who could give a fuck about the future of the country and they're pissed about it.  Unfortunately they see budgetary allocations as moral issues.  Of course it's bad for the government to waste money.  But the billions we're spending on making sure poor people don't die at the age of twenty five in tuberculosis-tainted gutters is a fraction of the amount the government hands out in tax credits for a million bullshit "business stimulation" schemes. 

It's hard to really stay mad at rich people when you want so badly to be one.  It's a lot easier to treat someone who's never had the chance or encouragement to educate themselves like shit because they take the lollipop when it's handed out to them. 
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2010, 11:21:57 AM
"Democrats brace for heavy losses" is today's headline... And, at my polling station at 8am, I was all alone.  Which is a first for me... It was weird. 
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2010, 01:04:24 PM
I've been searching for the list of TEa Party candidates so I can play an apocalyptic drinking game tonight.

So far, the list I've found is:

Senate Candidates:

Calif. - Chuck Devore (R)
Florida - Marco Rubio (R)
Kansas - Todd Tiahrt (R)
Kentucky - Rand Paul (R)
Nevada - Sharron Angle (R)
Pennsylvania - Pat Toomey (R)
South Carolina - Jim DeMint (R)

House Candidates:

Calif.-4 Tom McClintock (R)
Ga.-6 Tom Price (R)
Idaho-1 Walt Minnick (D)
Ind.-6 Mike Pence (R)
Minn.-6 Michele Bachmann (R)
S.C. -2 Joe Wilson (R)
Tenn.-7 Marsha Blackburn (R)

Anyone I'm missing?
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Nubbins on November 02, 2010, 01:19:50 PM
Just went to my polling place.  The line just to get a voting card was an hour, then there was another half hour line to get to the machines.  Plus the school my polling place is in is also in session, so there are a bunch of kids running around and uppity white women going, "I wouldn't want MY CHILD'S school full of the general population!  This is outrageous!"  Fucking Roswell.

So yeah, I didn't vote.  I'm not waiting in line to negate Republican votes, so I will go back later in the afternoon hoping it won't be so bad. 

I also feel like mentioning that I have paid virtually no attention to this election cycle whatsoever.  I have read up on the Georgia amendments that are up for debate, so I know how I'm voting there, but beyond that I am taking my father's approach to the election (he is registered to vote for the first time in over 20 years).  He is simply going to vote against all the incumbents, which I think is a pretty decent statement.  I talked to him on the phone a few weeks ago and he said, "Well... looks like I'm a Democrat this year."  I didn't have the heart to tell him that if he stays in Tennessee for the rest of his life and takes the same approach every election cycle, then he's probably going to perpetually be a Dem.

That said... I think the Dems are about to have their asses handed to them... probably even more than they were in '94.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2010, 01:32:11 PM
Yeah.  I think it's going to be a nasty evening...

For the record -- I am a huge fan of the "vote against the incumbent" idea. I always follow a version of that -- voting against the "continuation of office" elected civil servant fucks. 
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Nubbins on November 02, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
Yep, fuck the incumbents.  Maybe if they were less focused on getting re-elected, we'd see some sort of progress.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Nubbins on November 02, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
Well... there's something I never thought I'd do.  Voted straight Libertarian and then wrote my name in on any elections where people were running as unopposed incumbents.  God bless America.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
Now you'll accidentally win all of those offices.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Nubbins on November 02, 2010, 07:39:05 PM
I applied for a job today!
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 02, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
God bless you, Nubs!  I voted for 2 Libs and a Constitution party.  Wrote my name in for State's Attorney.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Nubbins on November 02, 2010, 08:42:29 PM
God bless you, Nubs!  I voted for 2 Libs and a Constitution party.  Wrote my name in for State's Attorney.

Great minds!


Also, this... got it from a friend's Facebook page:  http://yourfuckingpollingplace.com/
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 02, 2010, 09:07:33 PM
I've been searching for the list of TEa Party candidates so I can play an apocalyptic drinking game tonight.

Anyone I'm missing?

The big one, Christine O'Donnell (who CNN is projecting has already lost) - Delaware.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2010, 03:33:42 AM
Man, at a big election party tonight... When O'Donnell got booted, it was like they just announced Washington's ghost had returned and righted all the wrongs.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 03, 2010, 09:26:53 AM
More O'Malley for you, Nacho. MMMMmmmm tasty.

Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2010, 09:54:05 AM
Yeah, I called last night's Maryland victories in 1971.
Title: Re: 2010 Mid-Terms
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 03, 2010, 08:52:20 PM
Man, at a big election party tonight... When O'Donnell got booted, it was like they just announced Washington's ghost had returned and righted all the wrongs.

Haha...even though it was widely speculated for weeks.  I guess if there's not much to cheer about*, the little things are cheered.

*Speculating about the cheering loyalties at your party.