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Title: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on November 12, 2008, 12:22:46 PM
Well, first we get Goodkind, now we get MArtin...


http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/11/hbo_orders_pilot_of_george_rr_martins_song_of_fire.php

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To the folks who voted for a movie of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice series in this week's Sci-Fi/Fantasy Books Which Desperately Need to be Movies Daily List...good fucking call. Because HBO is ordering a pilot based on the fantasy novels, to be titled A Game of Thrones after the first novel.

The idea of HBO using its considerable resources and talents on a full fantasy series (chock full of dragons and magic and shit) kind of blows my mind; I haven't read Fire and Ice, but I'd sure as hell check out any HBO show of it. Now, admittedly, this is only a pilot, and no guarantee it's going to get picked up. But the Hollywood Reporter has some interesting thoughts and info:

    Also, the success of "True Blood" may work in "Thrones' " favor. HBO has always sought to defy any sort of specific genre branding for its network, emphasizing that each project is judged on its own merits. Yet given how the vampire drama continues to gain viewers and how Showtime's swords-and-monarchy historical drama "The Tudors" has performed, it's not unreasonable to believe the network may see "Thrones" as a good fit.
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    The cost of producing a fantasy series is usually a factor that deters networks. The producers note that "Thrones" is written as a character drama and major battles often take place offstage. "It's not a story with a million orcs charging across the plains," Weiss said. "The most expensive effects are creature effects, and there's not much of that."

    Martin plans seven books. If HBO picks up the project to series, the producers intend for each novel to encompass a season.

Like, if everyone who suggested their favorite sci-fi/fantasy book/series earlier this week had their wish, wouldn't we all want an HBO series? It'll have plenty of episodes to do the stories justice, since it's pay cable there likely won't be any dumbing down of the source material, and HBO usually hires pretty talented people for their shows. If HBO meddles in anyway, it'll probably be to add some sex and nudity to the series, assuming Fire and Ice doesn't have any already. And I imagine the people who will be irked by that are firmly in the minority.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on February 07, 2009, 06:13:36 PM
The pilot script has been leaked...

http://termopilas.tales-tra.com/users/parsec/Pilot_script.pdf

and if that site goes down, I have it saved.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on April 23, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
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A Game of Thrones: HBO Pilot to Begin Filming in October
from Tor by Douglas Cohen

George R. R. Martin’s legions of fans should be happy to know that the pilot episode to A Game of Thrones, a television series based on book one in his epic fantasy series, A Song of Ice and Fire, is set to begin filming this October for HBO.  You can rest assured that this isn’t some nasty rumor:  George has announced it himself over on his blog.  Filming will take place in Northern Ireland.  He also provides links to the original article that broke the news and where filming will take place.  Of course this is just the pilot episode, so cross your fingers that it comes out well so the brass at HBO are happy enough to make this a full-fledged series, thus allowing us to geek out to thirteen episodes a year for seven years (the plan being one season devoted to each book in the series).  Like all of George’s fans I’m anxious for a release date to A Dance with Dragons, the next book in his series, but this is one hell of an appetizer.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on July 21, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
Sexy...

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Sean Bean famously played Boromir in The Lord of the Rings, so it seems natural for him to have been cast in the lead role of Lord Eddard "Ned" Stark in HBO's upcoming adaptation of A Game of Thrones, the first book in George R.R. Martin's Song of Fire and Ice series of fantasy novels
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Post by: Poppy Propercock on July 21, 2009, 04:14:38 PM
Ohhhhhhh that's hot.  And, like Boromir, he's gonna kick it early.

They better not fuck up the dragons.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on July 21, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
They don't really have to worry too much about the dragons in the first one, do they?  Didn't they just hatch towards the end?

I remember the first one being more War of the Roses and less fantasy.  But it has been a while... I quit when the third one came out and Martin started whining about how hard it was to write.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: Poppy Propercock on July 21, 2009, 04:43:01 PM
Yeah, true.  But that's just the first season.  More dragons later.

Maybe this will force Martin to finish, already!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on July 21, 2009, 06:20:16 PM
He is such a little bitch.  Probably the publisher's fault, trying to strong arm a Wheel of Time out of him.  Forcing him to split Dance With Dragons out of Feast for Crows is a sign that they want more titles in the franchise, as opposed to the originally planned five.  Now we're at seven...and I bet you even money he'll announce that it's been extended to nine books as we get close to the sixth one.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2010, 08:51:29 AM
This is a go...


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The first season is scheduled to premiere in the States next spring. HBO has initially ordered nine episodes plus the pilot. Production will begin in Belfast this June.

The show will star the legend that is Sean Bean as Eddard, and co-stars Peter Dinklage, Mark Addy, Harry Lloyd , Jack Gleeson, Jennifer Ehle, Lena Headey and Kit Harrington.

Lena Headey!  Yummy.  Maybe they'll let her talk in her normal accent, because that's double yummy.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2010, 08:52:47 AM
Goobersnot Martin posted a production still:

http://grrm.livejournal.com/137285.html
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2010, 01:41:53 PM
Full cast list at Quiet Earth:

http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2010/03/03/First-image-from-HBOs-GAME-OF-THRONES-series-yep-its-happening
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on May 25, 2010, 02:16:41 PM
News, news, news...

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/05/game-of-thrones-hbo.html
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on June 14, 2010, 04:20:46 PM
Not much to this...but...


Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on September 13, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
And the latest trailer...

Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 13, 2010, 02:40:53 PM
Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire
Post by: nacho on September 14, 2010, 03:03:31 PM
The HBO Game of Thrones blog:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on December 08, 2010, 12:35:58 PM
Here, this came out over a week ago. Everybody is GoT over-saturated and we still have five months to go!

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2011, 06:47:21 PM
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HBO’s GAME OF THRONES Premiere Date Is Sunday, April 17, 2011.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 09, 2011, 06:49:53 PM
I'll be hungover from the Sirharles wedding!

So.... Groomsmen outfit, stained with vomit, blood, and tequila... And furiously masturbating to fantasy dragon queens while chewing on countless aspirin?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
At least you'll be occupied while I'm talking to the cops.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 09, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
"You might want to give him a minute, officer."
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 17, 2011, 06:47:24 PM
New Teaser.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 17, 2011, 06:52:48 PM
All I know is that I'm trying to figure out how I'll manage going from wedding hangover to a freakout Game of Thrones viewing party in Bethesda. I should just take off the following week probably.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 17, 2011, 06:54:33 PM
Start cross training now.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 17, 2011, 06:56:37 PM
The trick is to probably just stay drunk Baltimore cop style.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 23, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
Geekgasm:

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2011, 12:14:41 PM
Holy. Shit.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
Why is Boromir in everything?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2011, 02:33:15 PM
Because all the women watch him.

A better question is -- why does Sean Bean always get the role of the hero who dies horridly? Because that's what happens to Stark and, from the looks of the teasers, it happens pretty early on.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 04, 2011, 05:47:48 PM
The extended trailer:


I've been conditioned to favor the rapid-fire, action-oriented trailers.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 15, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
Ah-ha... We get a bit more of the fantasy/magic stuff.

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 31, 2011, 05:54:08 PM
I'm probably the only one following the "food truck wars" in New York. There's the Game of Thrones foodtruck competing with the Camelot foodtruck... And the public has voted! Not only does the Camelot foodtruck hand out free turkey legs, but it's staffed with wenches in classic Disney princess garb.

I like that Starz is quietly pulling the rug out from under everyone. First Spartacus. and now Camelot -- which is basically Spartacus with Roman-Britons.

I watched the pilot a month or so back (and I think it premieres properly sometime in April). Camelot is kind of feeding off of Game of Thrones uberhype exhaustion, the promise of full frontal orgies, and the inexhaustible mine of Arthurian nonsense.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 04, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
I've been trying to avoid the first 15 minutes, because I hate it when they do this cock-teasing bullshit.  But... I can't keep away:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/?cmpid=ABC587
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 10, 2011, 08:28:49 PM
So... Looks like I'm going to a "Game of Thrones theme party" Sunday night.

I thought I'd mention that so you all can include me in your prayers.

This will be a dark, dark day for my manhood. The first time I've gone to a gathering for a TV premiere. Even when Doctor Who came back, I watched it on my own like anything else. But now it's food and drink and gather around with people dressed like they're from Westeros.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 11, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
Whoops... Now's not the time to admit that you're making a talky, complicated study of political intrigue.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 04:28:09 PM
I don't know why they complain about piracy when they renew these shows before they even air.

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Game of Thrones doesn't debut until Sunday night, but HBO is so confident about the series' success that the network has already told showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss to put on those thinking caps and start coming up with storylines for a possible second season.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 18, 2011, 12:49:51 AM
Well...it was pretty. And well cast. And well acted.

Here's the problem -- first, even the die hard fans kind of hate the series after the third book. Second, with just a little bit of scratching on the surface, the truth is that this is a low-rent fantasy series by a hack writer that's unfinished and will probably remain so forever. When you translate that into a screenplay and cast amazing actors to play it, you sort of see all the flaws.

The series is so loyal to the books (with a few weird exceptions) that you almost have to have read the books to follow it properly. However, if you've read the books, then there's zero drama with the series because you know everything that's going to happen.

What did I take away from it? Blonde chick nudity and the Treme season two trailer.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Cassander on April 18, 2011, 10:26:26 PM
you fanboys are just never satisfied, are you?  :-p
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 19, 2011, 04:04:18 PM
you fanboys are just never satisfied, are you?  :-p

It's the Walking Dead problem. These shows are 99% hype and 1% actual show, and the source material is, frankly, not very good.

And, like Walking Dead, the show gets renewed for multiple seasons before it even airs. It's like the audience isn't required anymore. They make a show, screen it with the press corps (who they buy off with swag and favors) and use them to secure MEGA-ADS! Then, having made their money, they're done. Who cares if anyone watches it.

Oh, but, if you download it you get sued for more money than the show would have made even if it was a success. So, worst case, you recoup your losses by plucking a few IP's out of the air.

My feeling with this and Walking Dead is that the technology has made it so that they can crank this shit out on the cheap, and what's a few Sunday nights matter when you've made megamillions with the exploitation rights? The nerds will buy the overpriced DVD sets, and then the re-release special edition sets, and then the blu-ray extra special edition sets regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Cassander on April 19, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
"If only our farm-raised writers could make up as much exploitable material as the ones out there in the wild....then there wouldn't be any waiting or huge option expenses!"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 20, 2011, 01:52:36 PM
So, despite the hype, Game of Thrones opened up to low ratings. And I'm sure it'll lose them as it goes on, because it's a convoluted mess for normal viewers. I sat and watched it with a bunch of feverish fans and they almost needed Cliff Notes to help them figure shit out.

The hype has now shifted to "The next episodes are better than the pilot." Har-har. We've heard that a thousand times.

But, of course, ratings don't matter. As noted in my posts above. I remain convinced that shows aren't made for an audience anymore. Hell, not just shows. Look at Thor and Captain America. Sequels are in the works!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 20, 2011, 02:25:27 PM
The Vulture folks discuss the highs and lows of Game of Thrones.

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Game of Thrones, George R.R. Martin's massive fantasy epic, finally became a television reality last night. Did it please die-hard fans, or disappoint them? Did it engage novices, or mystify them? On this, the morning after, we conscripted Adam Pasick, a Song of Ice and Fire superfan, and Margaret Lyons, a GoT virgin, to discuss the first episode, what worked and what didn't, and if they'll be sticking with the series.

MARGARET LYONS: I'm not much of a fantasy person generally, and while I found the first two installments of Game of Thrones exciting enough, I don't know that I'm going to stick it out. I feel like I've seen all of this before. It's Rome in medieval times; it's The Tudors with less history. Hell, parts of it seem ripped from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The acting is lovely, the costumes are gorgeous, and I have a soft spot for wolf puppies, but lavish production values and bare breasts aren't enough. I want to be totally enthralled by the ambition and scope of the story, but two hours in and Game just seems like Lord of the Rings–lite. What am I missing?

ADAM PASICK: First, a disclaimer. It's hard for me to take an unbiased look at Game of Thrones, the series, because I have been obsessed with the books so long that they're taking up the same amount of mental real estate as some people might devote to, say, Star Wars. But if I'm trying to be objective, I can totally see why the show seems like a recombinant organism made up of bits and pieces of the knights and sword epics that are as old as, well, knights and swords.

Don't get held up on the fact that there have been similarly themed shows that have come before: I love Game of Thrones not because of the genre setting, but almost despite it. This is a big, sweeping epic that will explore some very dark particulars of human nature — and completely mess with your head in the process. I like Lord of the Rings, but George R.R. Martin makes Tolkien look about as morally ambiguous as a nursery rhyme. However, I admit that it's impossible to suss all that out in the first two episodes, which have to spend a lot of time on exposition and character introduction. So it goes for most big, ambitious TV series. Do me a favor, and stick with it: It gets better.

LYONS: I’m glad you brought up moral ambiguity, because it points to one of the things I’m having a little trouble with in the series: It’s pretty light on actual human emotions, and it’s hard to invest in someone’s moral struggle when they only ever seem to play one note. That guy wants vengeance! That woman wants power! He has a secret! It’s telegraphed and belabored, and while there are plenty of incidental behaviors that are reminiscent of real life — say, Arya teasing her older sister — the Really Big Feelings ring incredibly false. It's possible that comes more from the acting than anything else; Maisie Williams is terrific as the younger Stark sister, so I find Arya really compelling, but Emilia Clarke's blank Daenerys just doesn't make sense to me.

Sprawling epics often wind up overexplaining their constructs and underdeveloping the characters’ inner lives (I mean, as long as we’re talking about Star Wars … ), and while Games has managed to create action within its exposition, I need some compelling emotions in there, too.

PASICK: Daenarys is a passive, unappealing character at the beginning, but that's by design. She'll have the biggest transformation of any character this season. As for undeveloped inner lives … that sounds familiar … ah yes, I just wrote about that for Vulture. But I'll summarize: The books are all about sticking the reader inside the heads of a rotating crew of narrators, giving the exact sort of insight that I think you're asking for. I'll admit that it remains to be seen whether the creators can make this work on TV.

Think back to the shows like Lost and The Sopranos that precisely set up their chess pieces at the beginning of a season. The opening moves didn't make much dramatic sense at the beginning, but when the hammer drops at the end, everything falls into place. The seemingly obvious and simplistic motives that seem belabored now will — if the shows pulls off its ambitious agenda — take on a much more layered meaning once the plot takes a few more spins around the map. This also might help: Every character in the Game of Thrones thinks they're the hero of this story, with perfectly good reasons for the occasionally loathsome acts they commit.

LYONS: Where this is differing from the pilots of Lost or The Sopranos for me is that those pilots were more nuanced — the pilot for Lost managed to combine serious action with some shadowy mystery and time-jumping thrown in. The Sopranos pilot punctuates its atmosphere of suburban claustrophobia with moments of acute aggression. Thrones so far is just hitting the same tone over and over, and that tone is "Impending Doom." It's so much doom! Everyone's on edge, and it seems like everyone's working some kind of angle — except for Peter Dinklage's Tyrion, who's probably the best character because he's the only one who seems to be having any fun. Between the beheadings, the rape, the incest, and the generalized sense of anxiety that seems to engulf all members of the Stark family, Tyrion is a welcome bright spot of relief.

Also, if I hate the ending of Game as much as I hate the endings of Lost and The Sopranos, I’m blaming you.

PASICK: With very few exceptions, I love the casting, especially my favorite characters: Jon Snow, Arya Stark, and Tyrion Lannister. Peter Dinklage is predictably awesome. The character of Catelyn Tully is a little more Mama and a little less Grizzly than I would have liked. The Wall, which I think is the single coolest thing that George R.R. Martin imagined for the books, looks appropriately awesome; I can't wait for all the action that's going to unfold there. The blood and guts didn't affect me much, maybe because we don't really know any of the characters who bit it, but I did find the marital rape scene with Khal Drogo and Danerys hard to watch. In the books, he treated her a bit nicer, even if she thought she was essentially his property, so maybe it's a more honest portrayal to show her suffering.

Finally, at the risk of scaring you off, the ending to the books hasn't even been written yet. If it never gets finished, or the ending sucks, I'll be so despondent that your newbie blame will be the least of my problems. Oh, and the Sopranos finale was perfect. Don't stop believin'.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 25, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
The second episode was a bit stronger. It's keeping me watching, which I guess is the point.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 30, 2011, 12:25:01 PM
So Martin completed the fifth book.  There are two more to go.

Borrowing a page from The Wonder Boys, Martin has been struggling for six years with this book, and very vocally having an emotional breakdown throughout. The book weighs in at over 1500 pages.

Technically, he started this book in 2000, but he threw it out and wrote a shorter, poorly-received fourth book. So he's actually been working on this for 11 years.

So I guess they can take their time with the TV series, eh? Not even doing a book a season will be slow enough to catch up with the conclusion.

Personally, I feel the lack of a conclusion to the series (something that, like Wheel of Time, may well be permanent), colors the TV show. Also -- Martin, as of the third book, has mired himself in so many intricate sub-plots that most normal people can't continue reading.

I don't see any way the show can continue past this season unless they totally turn away from the source material...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 02, 2011, 09:19:06 PM
Okay, so episode three has finally won me over. Mainly because we finally have all the cool people on board (and the ones who start out not cool are now becoming cool). It took, like, most of the first book to get to that point!

The cool people all manage to carry the books. I know people who just read the cool character's chapters and skip the rest! And, of course, there was an uproar when a few cool characters were omitted from the last book.

Now we're well on the road to everyone getting fucked up and coming into their roles.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 02, 2011, 10:27:33 PM
True Blood pulled that same trick with introducing characters from later books early. The use the source material as a guide rather than canon. It pisses Missus RC off to no end, but I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 02, 2011, 10:53:24 PM
Game of Thrones isn't doing anything early. The plan is a book a season (and two seasons for the third book) according to the showrunner... As if HBO will ever air an expensive series past a second season.

It's easier to be loyal to the Martin books, though, because you can trim about 90% of that crap and nobody will know any better. Joffrey chapter = a one minute "he's an asshole" scene.

They cast everyone very well. You want to strangle Joffrey before he even speaks.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 17, 2011, 01:49:12 PM
Episode four -- reviewed!

 :sleepy1:

But, hey, that's okay. That's where we're at in the story. The doldrums of the middle chapters of the first book. So I'm not angry or let down or bored. It's just a "watch with Google Reader on the other screen" episode. Like most of TV.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 24, 2011, 09:39:22 PM
I like how HBO is all "the pirates can't get us!" when they talked about airing next Sunday's episode on HBO Go.

Of course, it was up for download Monday morning.

So... Finally getting around to it. Sexy!

Now that we're getting into the final episodes, the show has ramped up into awesome. I don't mind the slow pace of the earlier episodes...we have a huge cast that needs to be properly fleshed out. A stage to set.

It's going to be insane come the finale. Season one is the first book...which ended with the sort of cliffhanger that made you throw the book against the wall.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 30, 2011, 01:48:16 PM
The official airing of episode seven. I'm going to watch it again because whoever ripped the HBO Go version last week kept bumping his mouse or something so the arrow and the HBO Go status bar kept popping up and it was just not perfect enough! Not Perfect Enough, by Nacho Sasha.

Also, I think I got a wedding-related blood clot in my brain last night around 1am, so I'm not capable of doing much today except making pancakes and wondering whether or not I should open this $150 bottle of wine I stole. (Answer: yes.)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 30, 2011, 01:52:25 PM
Wow...and the show's been ruined by my download site! Mainly by the guy who made up lyrics for the theme song:

Hey you
you need to watch
Game
Game of Thrones...

Now it's all I can hear when the titles are playing.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2011, 08:25:06 AM
Okay, what's going to happen here is that the first season will have to be re-watched back to back. Though things are heating up nicely. I dread the cliffhanger and the year wait for season two, though.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 12, 2011, 10:24:24 PM
Penultimate episode tonight, and the conclusion (which should be a fuck-you-for-a-year cliffhanger) next Sunday. Then I'll do my gonzo back-to-back rewatch the following Sunday and rant about how shows should not have cliffhangers if they're going to make us wait longer than four months because the cliffhanger is designed for a very different era and people lose interest in the suspense of it if they have to wait 12-15 months.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 13, 2011, 12:45:35 AM
Wow. And so passes Sean Bean.

Some significant changes (all improvements) from the book.

So, next week, the Battle of King's Landing! This episode was drenched in blood, so next week should be wild times.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 14, 2011, 06:34:23 PM
In a weird way, this sort of sums up Game of Thrones. A ten minute loop of Tyrion slapping Joffrey set to Zeppelin.

It's all the rage online these last couple days. For some, there's a sort of zen to it. For others, it's cathartic, because Joffrey's a cunt.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2011, 01:24:47 AM
They saved the crazy fantasy (dragons) for the final scene. And it was awesome. Really a nicely done finale.

Now we get to wait for 10 months for season two!

They told us not to worry, though, with the constant commercials and ads for True Blood next Sunday.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2011, 01:24:40 PM
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HBO swears it won't cancel Game of Thrones, that Game of Thrones will not see a similar fate to Deadwood, and that they are "very aware of and respectful of" the relationship fans have to the series. "We told George [R.R. Martin] we'd go as long as he kept writing," HBO co-president Richard Pleper said at a TCA panel yesterday. "I can promise you that we won't stop it before it's ready to stop," agreed Michael Lombardo, HBO's programming president. The execs said that Thrones will stick with ten episodes per season ("there is no way they could physically do more than 10," Lombardo says), but that subsequent seasons didn't necessarily have to cover an entire book, which could make adapting, say, the later books a bit easier. It's not hugely shocking that HBO would vow to stand by its new hit show, but GoT's television fate isn't completely clear cut: "I don't know where the show ends as opposed to the books," Lombardo admits, and for a show that's been so faithful to its source material, that could be an issue come season six or so.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 29, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
Translated, those Michael Lombardo quotes read, "Holy fuck, this show is expensive to produce!!"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I love how HBO pours money into a gala event and then freaks out when they get the bill...again and again and again. Where was this loyalty with Rome? (Well, they did also talk the same talk during the first year, discussing the five year roadmap and so on...)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 29, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
Scy-Fy does the same damn thing. Remember BSG?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2011, 06:33:33 PM
With them, I'm not surprised. Sci-Fi has been fucking up shows for 15 years. I'm just mystified at HBO's repeated behavior.

"We're going to extravagantly recreate Rome down to the clothes that the actors wear and the forks that they use."

"Okay! Here's a blank check!"

*mega-hit that loses money*

"WHAT?! This cost more than $15.95 an episode?!?!"

And now they're doing it with GoT, and Nefertiti... It's more like they're not in the TV business but are, instead, trying to prove some sort of insane point. Like people who open a restaurant just to show off their antique clocks.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 12, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
Oh-ho! Nacho geekgasm alert!

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47169/neil-marshall-direct-episode-hbos-game-thrones (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47169/neil-marshall-direct-episode-hbos-game-thrones)

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Neil Marshall to Direct an Episode of HBO's Game of Thrones

We haven't given much coverage here at Dread Central to HBO's stellar "Game of Thrones" series, an adaptation of author George R. R. Martin's best-selling A Song of Ice and Fire fantasy novels, but with the news coming today that genre director Neil Marshall has signed on to direct an episode from the series' second season, we just couldn't resist mentioning it. Plus, we hear there are more supernatural shenanigans planned for Season 2 so you'll want to read on for those details.

Per Deadline "Game of Thrones" marks the TV debut of Marshall, and other directors tapped for Season 2 of the Emmy-nominated "Game of Thrones" include top TV helmers Alan Taylor, who worked on the series’ freshman season, and David Nutter as well as Alik Sakharov and David Petrarca (Boardwalk Empire).

Now, as for what we can expect during Season 2, series creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss told HBO in a recent interview: With the birth of the dragons, magic has kind of returned to the world. We saw glimpses of it in the first season with the white walkers north of the Wall and obviously the dragons being hatched. This is a world where people haven't seen much magic in the past few centuries, and they're starting to think it's just superstition at this point. And in the second season it becomes more and more evident that there are supernatural forces at work. There are people who try to channel them for their own purposes, and there are those who desperately try to avoid them - or combat them.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on September 12, 2011, 06:53:25 PM
Mmmm... Sexy.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 06, 2012, 04:35:04 PM
Season two promo:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2012/1/29/season-2-preview-you-win-or-you-die.html

Color me excited.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 02, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
The season two opener fucking rocked. I loved every minute.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 03, 2012, 08:34:11 AM
I love that HBO Go leaked the entire second season!  Quality is terrible...but, well, it's out there now.

(That, combined with all the stories about how expensive this season is, and given HBO's track record, sort of tells me that season two is the end.)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 20, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
I love this. Because, yes... I think its true.

http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 18, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
The internet man....

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NOT SAFE FOR WORK!! HuffPost Has Helpfully Compiled All 16 Minutes Of Nakedness From GAME OF THRONES!!

NSFW
http://www.5min.com/Video/Game-of-Thrones-Sex-And-Nudity-The-Complete-Collection-517397015 (http://www.5min.com/Video/Game-of-Thrones-Sex-And-Nudity-The-Complete-Collection-517397015)
NSFW
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 19, 2012, 07:24:23 AM
Wait, there's like 16 minutes of sex and nudity per episode!

I mean, seriously. That SNL skit isn't kidding. It goes on in the background during scenes.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 20, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
Just watched that SNL skit. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2012, 07:33:34 PM
It's a little too close to the bone for the fans. Ahem.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 20, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
Is it now? I've gotten the impression that you've enjoyed GoT.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 21, 2012, 07:35:44 AM
It's a terrible, mindless, clumsy mess. Where every scene cost a billion dollars to make and is filled with the cavorting nude figures of every modern 20-something actress. You can't not watch it. It's like visiting Mt. Olympus and being treated like a god then, at night, all the other gods anally rape you and drool on the back of your head.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 21, 2012, 12:41:17 PM
It's HBO! :fap:
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 07, 2012, 12:25:12 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/game-of-thrones-wire_n_1731640.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/game-of-thrones-wire_n_1731640.html)

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'Game Of Thrones': Dominic West Of The 'Wire' Rejected A Role On The HBO Drama

McNulty on "Game of Thrones"? It almost happened, according to actor Dominic West.

On Wednesday, I interviewed West, who played the iconic cop Jimmy McNulty on "The Wire," about the second season of the period drama "The Hour," in which he plays newscaster Hector Madden. I asked what other kinds of roles he was interested in, and "Game of Thrones" came up in the conversation.

"I was offered something on 'Game of Thrones' and unfortunately, I hadn't seen it, but my nephew and his father said, 'Gosh, "Game of Thrones" is the only great show on!' And I felt terrible, because I'd just turned them down," West said.

So what part was West offered? He hasn't read the books, so the name didn't stick in his head. But he did say that taking the role -- a substantial one and similar in stature or importance to Sean Bean's Season 1 character Ned Stark, according to West -- would have involved being "in Reykjavik for six months." ("Game of Thrones" shoots the scenes set north of the Wall in Iceland.)

So was it King Beyond the Wall Mance Rayder, which seems like the strongest possibility to me (and the only notable Season 3 role that hasn't been cast)? Was it a member of the Night's Watch north of the Wall? One of Mance's men? Alas, West couldn't recall the name of the character, so we're left to speculate. (I've asked HBO if they know which role West was offered, and I'll update this post if I get more information.)

In any event, "it was a lovely part, a good part. I'm going to regret it," he said with a rueful laugh. "My problem is, I've got four kids, and at the moment, I'm reluctant to be away from home for a long time. I can get a lot of work in London and still be at home. That's one of the many brilliant things about 'The Hour.'"

"Should I have taken it?" he asked, semi-seriously. As much as I would have loved to see Baltimore's most famous fictional cop on another fine HBO program, I can certainly respect West's devotion to his family obligations. Besides, the Iceland scenes look amazing on the show, but the actors in those scenes also look very, very cold.

So now that "Thrones" is out, what kind of roles are West, who won a BAFTA award for his work in the TV movie "Appropriate Adult," looking for? There really are no limits, but he doesn't want to repeat himself, he said.

"There isn't enough work out there to be that picky, so the only real criteria are, is it well-written, and the other criteria is about trying to be at home," West said. "If someone says, which they have done, 'We've got a great part, it's a drunken cop,' I might say, 'Maybe not.'" Same goes if he's offered the role of a booze-soaked but ambitious newscaster like Hector Madden of "The Hour."

Speaking of "The Hour, a well-regarded BBC America drama that returns in November, things go very awry for Hector this season, according to West: He starts to party hard at Soho nightclubs, he gets mixed up with questionable people, and he has serious troubles with his wife, Marnie (who is, as it happens, played by Oona Chaplin, who also appears as Talisa in "Game of Thrones").

"It's meaty stuff," West says of Hector's Season 2 troubles. "In those days, the head of those news programs got 20 million viewers every night, so they were huge -- everybody knew who they were and they were in everybody's house every night. That's viewing figures we can only dream of now, and I suppose they were big celebrities," and the temptations of that lifestyle tempt Hector a little too much.

Correction: This article originally said that "The Hour" returns in October. That error has been corrected.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 07, 2012, 01:07:18 PM
Mance Raydor is such a waste of a character. These books are such wastes... Ugh.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on November 19, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
The first trailer for season three...

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
I'm the human on Earth who doesn't watch this show, right?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on November 20, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
I'm the human on Earth who doesn't watch this show, right?

Pretty much. Probably those orbiting the Earth will also be watching it, so you can expand to the only human in the solar system.

You're not actually missing anything, though. It's strange.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on November 22, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
I began watching it, and it's enjoyable. I've never seen so many misshapen tits before.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 11, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Oh-ho!

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on February 13, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
Gay.

Although my anus eagerly awaits Season 3.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 13, 2013, 02:37:22 PM
I'm the only person in the western hemisphere that doesn't watch this show, right?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 13, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
I'm the only person in the western hemisphere that doesn't watch this show, right?

I have the boxsets of seasons one and two if you want to join the happy people.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Reginald McGraw on February 14, 2013, 09:19:59 AM
I don't watch either.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 25, 2013, 04:31:14 PM
Yummy...

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 04, 2013, 04:45:32 PM
Extended trailer. 20 more seconds of angst.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 06, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
I just want more tits.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 06, 2013, 10:59:42 AM
I don't know how this show could have more tits. Maybe go with an all female cast...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 06, 2013, 02:01:24 PM
That's an idea.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 20, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
Well...there are, like, a dozen new trailers. Three are linked here:

http://www.scifistream.com/2013/03/new-game-of-thrones-teaser-the-war-has-just-begun/

Despite the super-hype, I am looking forward to the new season. March 31st!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 21, 2013, 11:20:01 AM
April 1st for Europe.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 21, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Prequel/spin-off using Martin's greatest time-waster-I-can't-finish-a-series Hedge Night novellas, which he writes in the five year gaps between lackluster Ice and Fire books...


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In exciting news for fantasy and Game of Thrones fans out there, George R. R. Martin has discussed the real possibility of a Dunk & Egg series for HBO.

This news comes hot-on-the-heels of the announcement in early February that Martin had signed a two-year deal with HBO to stay on as Executive Producer on Game of Thrones and write a script per year. The deal also included creating a brand new series for the premium cable network.

And this is where it becomes really exciting.

Martin just confirmed to IGN that HBO may be considering adapting Martin’s novellas on the adventures of Dunk & Egg, two characters who lived a century before the events of Game of Thrones.

Martin described the series of stories (there are currently three—The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword and The Mystery Knight—and Martin has ideas for nine or ten more) as more adventurous, saying “Maybe that will be what we’ll do. We’ll see.”

The A Song of Ice and Fire author is only pitching these ideas to HBO (along with a sci-fi series and some historical dramas) since he is busy at work on the last two novels, The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring. He confirmed he would not write the scripts, but hopes HBO will get another Benioff and Weiss to supervise which ever series that will ultimately be chosen.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 22, 2013, 12:44:32 AM
Overkill.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 22, 2013, 07:44:17 AM
Overkill.

What he said.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 01, 2013, 12:20:50 AM
That was awesome. NOLA girl only tried to kill me two times...and, well, kicked me out of her house when it was over and I said, "So...now's the Walking Dead finale!"

I'm home now. Downloading the Walking Dead Finale.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 06, 2013, 12:42:53 AM
Man...the problem with GoT is that I can't get the joke lyrics out of my head... So we get the build up, then, at the break with the solo violin -- hey you/it's time to watch/game/game of thrones...

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on May 06, 2013, 12:15:02 PM
How many episodes are available now? I want to wait until the end of the season and spend a whole day eating pizza, drinking home-made sloe gin and watching a 20 hour orgy of GoT.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 06, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
How many episodes are available now? I want to wait until the end of the season and spend a whole day eating pizza, drinking home-made sloe gin and watching a 20 hour orgy of GoT.

Halfway mark last night. It all ends June 9th. I'd wait till June. This season has mastered the weekly blue balls technique.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on May 07, 2013, 09:46:53 AM
Excellent. I'll shoot my load all over it mid June then.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 03, 2013, 12:57:18 AM
Wow... The most recent episode was mind blowing. This damn show...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 03, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
I'm late to this...but it's still hilarious:

https://twitter.com/redweddingtears

Somebody's collecting the angriest and most insane tweets about last nights slaughterrific episode.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 15, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
The finale was actually kind of perfect. A quiet little set piece getting everyone into position for season four... Which is going to be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 05, 2013, 06:28:23 PM
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on September 06, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Dude...that led me way deep down into a sweet, sweet, foul-mouthed, tattooed Lena Headey hole. 
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on October 16, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
This is awesome...

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on October 16, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
LOLz.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 14, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
I post this having never watched Game of Thrones. I only know that that South Park guys still have it.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s17e07-black-friday (http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s17e07-black-friday)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on November 14, 2013, 04:12:52 PM
Still not available in France.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 03, 2013, 03:38:19 PM
Just watched part 2 of South Park's three part Game of Thrones/Black Friday send up. This more than anything else has made me want to watch Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on December 03, 2013, 04:07:28 PM
Just watched part 2 of South Park's three part Game of Thrones/Black Friday send up. This more than anything else has made me want to watch Game of Thrones.

They got it perfectly, too. Now the Throne Maiden dances around the house singing the "Wiener wiener" version of the theme song.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 03, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
Missus RC and I may numb our brains with the first season to recover from the flight home jet lag.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 13, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
This season's going to rock...


Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on January 13, 2014, 11:10:47 AM
Yeah, that was a nice trailer. We'll finally get to see dragons killing people in horrific manners.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 13, 2014, 11:34:25 AM
They always promise dragons!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on January 13, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
They always promise dragons!

But they always deliver tits.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 11, 2014, 11:55:23 AM
Fifteen minute Season 4 teaser...

http://mashable.com/2014/02/10/game-of-thrones-season-4-sneak-peek/
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 11, 2014, 12:24:27 PM
Yeah. I even taped it! You know it's bad when you start to watch that stupid pre-season special shit.

This will be the first season where we'll begin (just barely) to get ahead of the books. We'll certainly catch up in season 5... Though, generally, the show quietly spent last season moving away from the books. The books are more for providing set-pieces (a la The Red Wedding) at this point.

This is also the season where every fucking thing changes. It's going to be wild.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 17, 2014, 11:37:35 AM
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on February 17, 2014, 02:32:55 PM
I hope they keep up the boobie quotidian.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 17, 2014, 04:03:07 PM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/qcgud7/a-chorus-of-wieners (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/qcgud7/a-chorus-of-wieners)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2014, 01:43:41 PM
Marathoned my season 3 discs while I had a 103 degree fever.

Had Red Wedding dreams.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
Oh, and, speak of the devil:

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 12, 2014, 11:40:48 AM
So they've finally stopped waffling and said, yes, 7 seasons total.

And they told us that, after this season, they'll have caught up with stupid George Martin. Apparently there's been a meeting where lazy fuckwad Martin just outlined what happens to the producers, so now the show doesn't have to stall for his idiot ass.

Which means...all that time everyone has invested in reading and waiting for the book series has just been wasted!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 12, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
LoLz.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 12, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
This is really shameful... I hope Martin burns for this. A betrayal to the fans, and the exposure of a writer who can't write... The show has already had to twist and spin just to fill in his ham-handed gaps and poor storytelling.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 12, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
It shouldn't take 3 years to write out one book of three when you already have it planned out.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 12, 2014, 12:13:12 PM
It shouldn't take 3 years to write out one book of three when you already have it planned out.

He claims he has the whole thing planned out... So did Robert Jordan with Wheel of Time. Sanderson (who took over the writing when Jordan died) later said that, yes, Jordan had a plan, but only in that he wrote the final climax and none of the shit in between.

So I bet Martin's the same.  He's stalled and dead in the water. So now the TV show has the grand finale, they'll just take a couple more years to fill in the gaps and, viola.

Which means Martin's job will be easy. He'll make mega millions novelizing the TV show.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 12, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
What a fat cunt.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 13, 2014, 12:08:33 AM
He claims he has the whole thing planned out... So did Robert Jordan with Wheel of Time. Sanderson (who took over the writing when Jordan died) later said that, yes, Jordan had a plan, but only in that he wrote the final climax and none of the shit in between.

Citation please? Because I'm interested and surprised that he would admit that.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 07:51:20 AM
He claims he has the whole thing planned out... So did Robert Jordan with Wheel of Time. Sanderson (who took over the writing when Jordan died) later said that, yes, Jordan had a plan, but only in that he wrote the final climax and none of the shit in between.

Citation please? Because I'm interested and surprised that he would admit that.

Gosh back in the chatter-blogs when he first took over. I'll research!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 09:09:37 AM
The claim was Jordan wrote the final chapters, the big ones, and had lots of 'outline notes' with a few important passages inbetween... and Sanderson had to connect the dots.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 10:49:46 AM
The claim was Jordan wrote the final chapters, the big ones, and had lots of 'outline notes' with a few important passages inbetween... and Sanderson had to connect the dots.

This.

Same principle as what Tolkein's son did...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 12:19:55 PM
The claim was Jordan wrote the final chapters, the big ones, and had lots of 'outline notes' with a few important passages inbetween... and Sanderson had to connect the dots.

This.

Same principle as what Tolkein's son did...

Except that Tolkein's son was shit.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 12:21:27 PM
I'd argue that his dad wasn't all that hot either.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2014, 12:24:37 PM
 icebarn.gif!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
I'd argue that his dad wasn't all that hot either.

He wasn't really my type... too old and wrinkly.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 13, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
The claim was Jordan wrote the final chapters, the big ones, and had lots of 'outline notes' with a few important passages inbetween... and Sanderson had to connect the dots.

Okay, I can certainly believe this. Maybe the Nacho wording threw me last night. It looks fine in the light of day.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
ROBERT JORDAN EATS CATS!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
The claim was Jordan wrote the final chapters, the big ones, and had lots of 'outline notes' with a few important passages inbetween... and Sanderson had to connect the dots.

Okay, I can certainly believe this. Maybe the Nacho wording threw me last night. It looks fine in the light of day.

Jordan's wife says once his diagnosis came in he spend nearly every day pouring over notes and shit, trying to get as much done of his saga as possible.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
ROBERT JORDAN EATS CATS!

By cats you mean pussy?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 19, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Jesus this is hot...


Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 03, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
In researching something completely different, I found this:

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 03, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
She needs to take that top off.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on April 04, 2014, 04:45:34 AM
She needs to take that top off.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 04, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
The show is adding four new porn stars this season -- three British and one an Aussie -- and all the fan sites are going on and on  -- OMG, they're hiring porn stars! What the hell?

So...the show has 8 porn stars in it already, two of them in major roles, one of them in a title role... And, when not doing GoT, they're STILL doing porn! I guess that's escaped everyone's notice for four years...?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on April 04, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Hahahaha!

Links.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
So that was awesome. More or less just picking up the pieces post-Red Wedding...and setting the stage for this season's wedding. But we get full frontal nudity, dragons, blood, and a high body count. Welcome to season 4!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Oh, and, the premiere had so many viewers that it crashed HBO Go. Which is actually the first sign of Armageddon.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2014, 11:02:08 AM
My review of episode two:

Dude.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2014, 12:47:39 PM
I love how Tor, io9, and everyone else in the geekoverse all reviewed episode two by basically just talking about the last few minutes in a sort of excited, giggling babble.

So with the Purple Wedding done right up front, that means this season will be consumed with the build-up towards the battle at the Wall (which is the Neil Marshall finale).
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 21, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
After two amazing episodes, we get a little bit of a misstep. Characters we've been asked to relate to and sympathize with for a season plus two episodes are suddenly demonized with no sense of the existing storyline or character arc. Very strange.

Overall, this was the GoT version of a "comedy" episode, coming down off of the Purple Wedding. Of course, a comedy episode involves the brutal and graphic rape of a sibling, three penises, weirdly absent dragons where they shouldn't be absent, and a general malaise where just about everyone realizes that they aren't free to do anything, including Dany whose sole strategy is to rely on others to revolt and win her wars for her.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 22, 2014, 01:58:13 PM
Man... I'm starting to wonder if the unnecessarily gratuitous, completely out of character, inexplicably written and paced brutal rape scene just sunk this show.

I mean...if we stand back and look at it analytically, the only explanation for the scene is that it was intentionally designed to sink the show.
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Post by: monkey! on May 02, 2014, 05:41:50 PM
Finally caught up with Game of Thrones, 4 episodes in one evening. Good stuff! Not as many tits though.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on May 02, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
Finally caught up with Game of Thrones, 4 episodes in one evening. Good stuff! Not as many tits though.

Also, the rape scene wasn't all that bad. From the faggot-public reaction I was expecting something from Irreversible.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 03, 2014, 01:31:46 AM
Is that the one where Belluci gets brutally sodomized and then the guy smashes her face? Worst scene ever filmed!

My issue with the rape scene is that it basically goes against all of the character building for Jaime up till that point. It was kind of like "We need a rape scene!"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on May 03, 2014, 05:36:25 AM
Yeah, the rape scene in Irreversible is about ten minutes long.

I hold your issues regarding Jamie's character building. Then again, that long dress she was wearing to cover all parts of her flesh meant she deserved it, I think. What are the rules in Texas, again?
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Post by: nacho on May 03, 2014, 09:54:28 AM
Exactly the same as Westeros.
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Post by: monkey! on May 03, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
Exactly the same as Westeros.

Lol-a-licious.
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Post by: nacho on May 12, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
Okay. We'll just go ahead and give Dinklage a second Emmy, I think.
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Post by: monkey! on May 12, 2014, 05:46:49 PM
Those bastards: just as he demands the trial by combat, I thought, "Please don't be credits..." but credits.
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Post by: monkey! on May 12, 2014, 06:05:07 PM
Something had been bugging me about Tyrion's sell-sword, Bronn... now I remember.

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Post by: nacho on May 19, 2014, 10:54:51 AM
This fucking show...

We're in the finale run starting next week...three episodes to go. The Neil Marshall episode is the penultimate episode, which means it will probably be the most apocalyptic episode ever. They did this last season with the Red Wedding as the penultimate episode, and then we got a Dany-heavy epilogue episode where everyone spent an hour catching their breath.
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Post by: monkey! on May 19, 2014, 04:34:55 PM
My anus eagerly awaits.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 30, 2014, 01:46:30 PM
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/05/game_of_thrones_season_4_a_great_show_gets_greater.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/05/game_of_thrones_season_4_a_great_show_gets_greater.html)

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Game of Thrones Isn’t Just Great Fun
It’s great, period. And it should change how we think about television.

Our current “golden age” of television drama has largely been marked by an obsession with realness. Everything is holding a mirror to something, and that something is us, as we were and as we are. Period shows like Deadwood and Mad Men are obsessive marvels of historical detail, while The Sopranos and Breaking Bad offer studies of American families so nuanced we feel like we’re at the dinner table. Even bygone genre chestnuts like Battlestar Galactica are reimagined into cutting-edge geopolitical allegories. The Wire—in my opinion, the best show in history—is the pinnacle of this, a work so rigorously journalistic it’s taught in sociology classes in esteemed universities.

Game of Thrones, HBO’s fantasy series based on author George R.R. Martin’s still-unfinished A Song of Ice and Fire saga, is not like those shows. It is about swords and sigils and dragons and frozen baby-crazed zombies and it is decidedly uninterested in transcending these trappings or ironically critiquing them. As such it represents a strange convergence of hierarchies, a work from a genre (fantasy) not traditionally associated with prestige in a form (television) newly associated with prestige on a network (HBO) most iconically associated with that transition. Game of Thrones is a terrifically fun and immensely popular show, but can a work so flagrantly inauthentic actually be important television?

The answer is yes, and precisely for its unreality, its joyful hostility toward anything like allegory, commentary, or social relevance. Much like Star Wars and Hogwarts and other great Neverlands, Game of Thrones doesn’t hold a mirror to anything. It is aggressively false, a work of far-fetched imagination so intricate and finely realized it becomes compelling on its own terms, disorienting and dazzling us in the ways that only the best storytelling can. This is a show where we cheer on an adolescent girl’s precocious transformation into a serial murderer; this is a show in which a character’s desire to release people from slavery is convincingly rendered as a conundrum. The most recent episode ended with yet another shocking death, a character we’re coming to hate killing a character we’d come to pity, to save the life of a character we’ve come to love. How are we even supposed to feel? Other than, yet again, totally thrilled.

Often when we refer to art as “escapist” we mean it in a passive sense, some numbing and palliative diversion. Game of Thrones is escapism that actively transports, with virtuosic and unrivaled intensity. Last season’s Red Wedding sequence is one of the most notorious moments in television history, but for all the anguish wrought by its content it is a micro-masterpiece of cinematic storytelling. The gathering claustrophobia of the doors being shut, the strange dread evoked by the invented connotations of an invented song, and of course, the cold and crushing zoom of its final shot, a Russian nesting doll of throat-slitting.

The world of Game of Thrones is an immense one, and in terms of sheer narrative scope the show’s only rival is The Wire itself. But while The Wire built vertically, with each season focusing on a new cross-section of Baltimore, Game of Thrones expands horizontally, characters and locations drifting in and out and entire strands of plots left alone multiple episodes at a time. For a show with such a reputedly sadistic relationship with its viewers’ emotions, Game of Thrones has an extraordinary reverence for our attention span: One of the reasons the show’s traumas are so effective is because they’re so patiently crafted.

And the sadism is overstated, or at least misunderstood. Late in its first season, Game of Thrones took the galling step of violently dispensing with its protagonist, a character we’d been led to believe was the show’s focal point. For all the carnage that’s ensued since, the execution of Ned Stark is the show’s most formative moment, the moment it truly spread its wings and bonded its viewers into a strange Stockholm Syndrome with the show’s universe that’s perversely pleasurable. After all, when nothing is safe, anything is possible. That sense of possibility—so expansive, so outlandish—gives the show its soul, far more than any of its fleshy titillations (overrated, as such things usually are).

It’s tempting to chalk much of this up to the source material, but Game of Thrones has actually gotten better as television the further it strays from the structure of Martin’s books. This is partly attributable to a fantastic ensemble cast with a knack for giving three dimensions to characters that might otherwise have one or two, but also to some of the best screenwriting and direction happening anywhere. “Blackwater,” the climactic episode of the second season and the best hour of the show to date, was penned by Martin himself and might be the most ambitious depiction of war ever on television, a condensed epic of dark, harrowing chaos. In fact, one of Game of Thrones’ most groundbreaking aspects is its feat of adaptation, negotiating thousands of pages of text into episodic film. Grantland’s Andy Greenwald wrote last year, “What we thought was an exercise in transforming a book into television may actually have helped turn television into a book.”

Authenticity is overrated, and has its limits. I’ve heard Mad Men’s clumsy racial politics explained away as “just how it really was” a few too many times by white people who were born in the 1980s, and the lavishly outfitted historical fiction of Boardwalk Empire has now spanned half of the 1920s and is so boring it feels like it’s happening in real time. Tony Soprano and Walter White have more in common with Tywin Lannister than they do with anyone’s actual father or husband or boss, and that’s why we love them, even when we should probably hate them.

We don’t watch TV to look in a mirror, we watch it to look at something else, something prettier or crazier or just completely different. Game of Thrones creates a suspension of disbelief so immersive it feels almost childlike, some great cultural bedtime story for people who thought they were too old for such things. If The Wire is important for what it tells us about urban America and social institutions and the moral failures of late capitalism, Game of Thrones is important for what it doesn’t tell us about any of these things. Instead it tells us is that for an hour each week we can be something like kids again, and for all those letters indicating all those “adult” situations that precede it every Sunday, that’s no small achievement.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 30, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
Nice...
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Post by: nacho on June 02, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
Well, last night's episode was insane. Next Sunday, we get the Neil Marshall episode. I'm looking forward to the season ending just so I don't get all ramped up on Sundays and scream at the TV at 9:59pm.
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Post by: monkey! on June 02, 2014, 07:01:28 PM
I just downloaded it at 5.54m per second... 'cause Europe rocks.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 02, 2014, 10:07:35 PM
And no opinion on the episode?

Also, I get 114mps.
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Post by: monkey! on June 03, 2014, 08:54:00 AM
Just watched it...

Bastards giving false hope.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 08, 2014, 10:55:27 PM
Hey, Neil Marshall, you have an unlimited budget to make a 60 minute battle sequence that's unrelenting and slaughters 20% of our secondary and tertiary cast and is utterly off the chain.

Up for it?

"Yes."
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on June 09, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
It was a bit disappointing.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2014, 10:13:11 AM
What? It was insane! The entire episode was the battle! We got major character shifts, we axed a whole bunch of secondary characters. It was a gamechanger episode. There are giants, super-bows, exploding barrels, flaming arrows, heads being chopped off, blood flying... Characters who have been generally without motivation for four seasons all found their place in the larger story, bad guys got their comeuppence (something rarely done on GoT), Gilly gets a kiss!
 
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2014, 10:28:45 AM
Also -- the Neil Marshall debate continues! Monkey's reaction is the whole theme of that thread in the movie forum.


Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
Now, while I stand by my post above, I do have two big questions:

1) There's about 70 miles of completely undefended wall, right? Why didn't Mance attack elsewhere, where he could work at his leisure to breach the wall? Surely the tunnels, sealed or not, could be dug out by the giants?

2) If sealed tunnels are that much of an issue that Mance has no choice but to attack the most heavily defended section of the wall, then why doesn't Jon just seal Castle Black's tunnel?  He knows that Wildlings able to climb the wall are few and far between, and can be easily dealt with. No artillery, except for the giant bows, can reach the defenders. They've defeated the Wildlings on the other side of the wall. They're actually in the perfect defensive position...and Jon decides to leave?!?!
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Post by: monkey! on June 11, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
Because Jesus - or John Snow - must travel through his testing ground without fucking some ginger bitch and deal with the devil.

Or... something.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 11, 2014, 03:14:55 PM
I would think his testing ground was being forced to assume the command of -- what? -- 12 surviving Watch against an army of 100,000 during a siege that has no hope of relief. 
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Post by: monkey! on June 11, 2014, 05:28:45 PM
Nope - there must always be a solitary exploration to find the oracle/beast.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 11, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
Nope - there must always be a solitary exploration to find the oracle/beast.

Which every single other character on the show is also doing!

What I really want is for them to stop doing the comically close chance meeting of two Starks. That's been this season's Plot B.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on June 12, 2014, 05:54:48 AM
I want them to bring back more naked boobies.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 12, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
I don't know...they lose their luster after a while. In GoT, I've come to associate naked boobies with rape or some sort of massive, insane power play that will result in half the cast getting hosed.
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Post by: nacho on June 16, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
So that's the way you do a finale... Wow.
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Post by: monkey! on June 17, 2014, 01:16:51 AM
Yeah. Nice finale.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 17, 2014, 06:58:54 AM
What I hate is that EVERY review laments the omission of Lady Stoneheart...

And that's good! Because the books fall apart now... The show can't follow the books after this. And everyone's favorite water zombie is just extra weight to the already huge story and, really, just a macguffin that GRRM is using for his masturbation fantasies.

I enjoy that the show is even lighter on magic than the books, but now we're entering dangerous territory with Bran's training and if they follow Arya's story to the letter...

Next season will be interesting in terms of jumping the shark (which books 4 and 5 did horrifically).

I'm also waiting for GRRM to lose it. He's already said he plans to go back and re-release the books George Lucas style to keep them in line with the show...And, of course, the series just got extended so there's no end in sight. Nor does it look like the next book is any closer to hitting the shelves... That side of things is unraveling.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on June 17, 2014, 10:03:47 AM
I just watched South Park's season 17 deconstruction of G.R.R. Martin and his flaccid penis fantasies. I lol'd.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 17, 2014, 10:21:05 AM
I just watched South Park's season 17 deconstruction of G.R.R. Martin and his flaccid penis fantasies. I lol'd.

That cycle of episodes is amazing.

"Don't trust him kid! He's lying to you!"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: monkey! on June 17, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
Cartman: "Stop listening my fucking conversations!"
Old man: "Get the hell outta my garden!"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 17, 2014, 11:29:49 AM
Oh, man. I have to watch them again now. Brilliant.

The Garden of Lies!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 20, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
So apparently Lena Headey trolled the entire internet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/19/game-of-thrones-finale_n_5503715.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/19/game-of-thrones-finale_n_5503715.html)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2014, 11:17:46 AM
So apparently Lena Headey trolled the entire internet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/19/game-of-thrones-finale_n_5503715.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/19/game-of-thrones-finale_n_5503715.html)

It's not the first time. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if it's her only hobby. Headey's the social media version of awards-party Jennifer Lawrence. The only reason we don't see her photo-bombing Taylor Swift is because everyone's afraid of her in person.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2014, 01:37:18 PM
I am all kinds of disappointed that the queen refused to sit in the Iron Throne.

Though I did hold my breath as she hovered near the step and everyone seemed afraid to reach out and give her a hand up.  Because if she died trying to sit on the Iron Throne, that would have been the craziest thing ever to happen in the history of the world and it's all we would ever talk about from this day forward. Can you imagine? 
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Post by: nacho on June 25, 2014, 02:40:20 PM
These are hilarious...


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I Can't Stop Laughing At This Guy's Game Of Thrones Video Recaps

 I just discovered this funny video of a southern gentleman giving his thoughts on the USMNT drawing Portugal. It turns out that this guy also posts quick video reviews of Game of Thrones episodes on his YouTube channel, and each one of them is a ridiculous treasure. I present a handful here, along with some of my favorite lines from each one, for your enjoyment.

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/i-cant-stop-laughing-at-this-guys-game-of-thrones-video-1594812922

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Post by: nacho on June 26, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
This makes me want to watch Wizards & Warriors again....


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Post by: monkey! on June 26, 2014, 12:37:33 PM
Haha.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 25, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
It's a weird world.

http://gawker.com/a-church-is-blocking-cerseis-big-nude-scene-in-game-of-1626506768 (http://gawker.com/a-church-is-blocking-cerseis-big-nude-scene-in-game-of-1626506768)

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A Church is Blocking Cersei's Big Nude Scene in Game of Thrones

Cersei Lannister's most important (non-incestuous) nude scene from Game of Thrones is proving difficult to film, due to a dispute with the Croatian church that was supposed to provide the backdrop.

The iconic scene from A Dance With Dragons calls for Cersei (played by Lena Headey) to emerge completely naked from the Great Sept of Baelor (played by Dubrovnik's Church of St. Nicholas). But TMZ reports the local film commission has denied the Game of Thrones producers' request to shoot there because of church policies against public nudity.

Game of Thrones obviously can't sacrifice one of the pivotal scenes in Cersei's story arc, or the opportunity to show the audience more bare breasts (they're the show's bread and butter, really).

It looks like they'll have to find another church—they've recast actors, so why not buildings?—or hope that God can forgive some more gorgeous, very expensive CGI.
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Post by: nacho on August 25, 2014, 05:14:34 PM
Dude...we've all been waiting four years to see Lena Headey naked.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 25, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
I was just struck by the weird combination of mediaeval fantasy being flamed in a church and there being a public debate about nudity and was struck by how strange the reality we live in truly is.
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Post by: monkey! on August 25, 2014, 06:39:44 PM
Fucking Croatia.
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Post by: nacho on September 04, 2014, 11:31:09 AM
No doubt because Lena Headey went to the offices and started punching people out, she is now allowed to be naked in a Croatian church.
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Post by: nacho on January 30, 2015, 07:54:29 PM
Oh yes...


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Post by: monkey! on January 30, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
Ah, I can't wait for this season. One of my best friends and old house mate - of 5 years - has a role as one of the King's Guards.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 31, 2015, 09:38:20 AM
Ah, I can't wait for this season. One of my best friends and old house mate - of 5 years - has a role as one of the King's Guards.

He'll die horribly, looks like.
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Post by: monkey! on January 31, 2015, 09:42:59 AM
Ah, I can't wait for this season. One of my best friends and old house mate - of 5 years - has a role as one of the King's Guards.

He'll die horribly, looks like.

Haha. I hope so!
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Post by: nacho on March 09, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
Yes, please!

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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2015, 11:05:57 AM
So, anyway...as I study that trailer... We're now outside of the books, for sure. Dark Sansa is back at Winterfell... Which means she gets revenge on the Boltons and Freys. Maybe they're going to hand some Lady Stoneheart stuff over to her as well? The Brotherhood has sort of been forgotten (a dead-end storyline when they decided to not do Stoneheart?).

Either way, getting at least a small measure of revenge on the Boltons and Freys is probably the primary reason for watching season 5.
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Post by: nacho on March 12, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2015, 11:09:15 AM
Man, the premier was awesome. And half the season leaked, so I went crazy and watched the next five episodes in a row. Satisfying.

So far, it's a bit of a slow down season. The first few episodes are all dealing with the fact that the entire cast died or utterly and irrevocably changed their lives in the last 10 minutes of the finale.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 03, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 12, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
What's amazing about this season so far is that it's a slow-down season. We're clearing the board of characters -- rather brutally -- but, otherwise, the first five episodes have been all about setting up the chessboard -- and, very cautiously, easing us out of the universe of the unfinished books and into the universe according to the show.

It looks like they're going to spend the entire season getting everyone where they need to be in order to orchestrate a battle fucking royale like we've never seen.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 18, 2015, 11:20:05 AM
It's taken this show five years to build up the confidence to finally shoot the inevitable scene where a major player and fan favorite was brutally raped.

Weirdly, with this show, that rape scene was the equivalent of two major characters getting married in a sitcom. Like when Niles and Daphne got together in Frasier. All of a sudden the tension and (in the latter case, the comedy) comes to an end. Now the character has completed her trail by fire and it feels like everything that happens now is on the downward side of the roller coaster.

But, then, that might be intentional here. The showrunners want to bring the story to a close in the next few seasons... And everyone has been so carefully maneuvered into place this season for a massive blowout. Next season -- winter will have finally arrived, the chessboard will be cleared, and all the politics of power will be drastically different.

But can the show handle that now that they don't have the books as their framework? By the end of this season, everything is fair game. We switch from stealing from extant work to whatever the writer's room can concoct.
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Post by: nacho on June 01, 2015, 10:27:56 AM
So Game of Thrones is now far away from anything the books could hope to achieve...and it is off the chain. The 15 minute battle sequence with the Army of the Dead was amazing.

The problem I see, now that the story is with the writer's room and not coming out of the books, is that ALL the zillions of little subplots are going to be pointless if the Army of the Dead goes on the march... And, after last night, it has to go on the march or else nothing will make sense. All these little loose ends with a dozen different characters will be moot the moment the apocalypse happens.

But maybe, ultimately, that'll be the greatest lesson of each storyline. Hubris, on the part of absolutely everyone, and how nothing they fought for all this time mattered.
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Post by: nacho on June 02, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Yes! Thank you, AV Club!

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If you’re anything like most people discussing the show on social media, you basically lost your shit last night when the last 20 minutes of Game Of Thrones delivered one of the best zombie movies of the past decade.
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Post by: nacho on June 03, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
Yes! Thank you, AV Club!

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If you’re anything like most people discussing the show on social media, you basically lost your shit last night when the last 20 minutes of Game Of Thrones delivered one of the best zombie movies of the past decade.

Oh, man, I'm officially in the "haven't yet recovered from the end of Hardhome" club.

Only two more episodes left. Though, at this point, the show will have to spend those two episodes in slow-down mode to get everyone lined up for whatever the fuck they're going to do to us next season. We have so much shit to deal with -- the battle at Winterfell, EVERY character has been maneuvered into a tight spot, they need to deal with the dragon problem...


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Post by: nacho on June 08, 2015, 05:59:06 AM
Episode nine is usually the freakout episode for this show... But this season it was a slow down episode. Of course, everything would be compared to the battle at Hardhome.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2015, 10:42:02 AM
I realize now, despite my initial reaction above, that episode 9 was not really a slow down episode. I keep thinking about Shireen's hideous death. It was a get under your skin moment...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 14, 2015, 11:55:25 PM
Season finale reaction:

 starwars!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 15, 2015, 10:42:45 AM
So the big complaint -- and they're right -- is that the finale pulled a few punches. It was almost too cliffhangery (we had eight cliffhangers -- one of them literally!). In analyzing this, io9 points out that some of these cliffhangers are retconned cliffhangers that bring the show back in line with the books.

What's happened is that, despite reports to the contrary, the show made the choice to stay with the books. They did this by pulling their punch during the finale and giving us absurd loose ends that, now, GGRM can tie up...if he can get the next book out before April.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 08, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
Let's all say goodbye to Nacho, kids.

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A ‘Game of Thrones’ Risk Game Is Finally Here. An Exclusive Look

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/07/07/a-game-of-thrones-risk-game-is-finally-here-an-exclusive-look/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/07/07/a-game-of-thrones-risk-game-is-finally-here-an-exclusive-look/)
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 08, 2015, 01:26:07 PM
Let's all say goodbye to Nacho, kids.

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A ‘Game of Thrones’ Risk Game Is Finally Here. An Exclusive Look

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Shit, that ain't nothing. There's an immersive GoT mod for Crusader Kings 2. I'm surprised I'm still posting and paying for this website instead of pooping in a sock and eating flies.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 08, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
So we're about to go off the rails. This should be fun now.

Season six starts at the end of April and they swear that they're still on track with the books...except they've now run out of books. GRRM still hasn't even delivered the Winds of Winter to the publisher, which means we won't be seeing that book in 2016 or 2017.

Meanwhile, HBO no longer claims that this is the penultimate season and now says the show will get eight seasons.
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Post by: nacho on March 09, 2016, 08:40:32 AM
Wheee...

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Post by: nacho on March 09, 2016, 08:46:13 AM
So the next 6 weeks will be spent deconstructing that trailer. There's so much there... And is that Bran getting surprised by the Night's King? Holy shit!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2016, 11:13:42 AM
The premiere delivered... Tits, weiners, death.

It feels like there's more at stake, really. Everyone's at their Empire Strikes Back low point now. Coupled with the idea that, after this season, there are only 13 episodes until the finale, I have the feeling it's going to be a hell of a ride.
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Post by: nacho on April 29, 2016, 02:27:58 PM
Haha. Yep.

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Post by: nacho on May 01, 2016, 11:26:37 PM
People keep talking about the "maturing" of Game of Thrones as we enter into the endgame here... And, yes, it's obvious at every turn.

The secret, of course, is that they have nothing to worry about. They've presented their plan -- this season, then two seasons splitting a final 13 episodes. HBO has approved it, and there's nothing to worry about. There's nothing to do but hunker down and tell the story.

Episode two of this season and they're clearing the board.They're wiping out all the pieces and they're getting down to the grudge death match. It'll take till late 2018, but it's going to be finale country from now till then. And it's going to be insane.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2016, 11:26:36 AM
Jesus...I took today off to recover from the launch party but, actually, I think today will be spent recovering from last night's fucking episode of Game of Thrones. I sat on the couch as the credits rolled just sobbing uncontrollably. Yikes.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 30, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
A slow down episode, while standard for this show, kind of makes me and at this point. We know that they're going to Sopranos the last season so it'll take us 2-3 years to inch through a handful of episodes, so all a slowdown episode does now is waste more of our time.

Blah.

Anyway, the last two episodes this season are an epic freak out blowing up the Death Star battle(s). So fair enough, I guess.
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Post by: nacho on May 31, 2016, 04:23:46 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit how much time I've wasted today reading breakdowns and theories of Bran's vision. Jeez...
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2016, 01:03:44 PM
The 70 minute "Battle of the Bastards" episode was astounding. Actually two battles -- one with dragon goodness that neatly ties up about 30 side stories across the sea and the big showdown between Ramsey Bolton and Jon Snow. The bodies quite literally piled up and we cleared a few names off the cast list, and set up to clear a few more next time.

A bit of clumsiness amidst all the gore and dragons, though. You can see the writers moving all the chess pieces into place. Everyone who had their B Stories are getting the hurry-up-and-get-in-position treatment. With many of them, that means that they have to step out of character. Arya's suddenly in a hurry to go home, they dropped the Dorne storyline completely, Cersei's gone from tactical genius to bringing the hammer down, they're cramming Starks together (or eliminating them with little thought), the Hound's actions make no sense at all.

But, oh well. Get in place for the mother of all battles.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 28, 2016, 02:28:20 PM
The finale was...shocking. Every plotline is on hyperspeed, as well. But it still delivered.

13 episodes remain, split in half -- 2017 and 2018. We may get 15 episodes, they say, depending on what the story demands in terms of wrap-up. But the finale did a pretty good job at getting every single piece onto the table and into permission. All that happens now is that they have to all smash into each other.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 06, 2016, 12:31:51 PM
Going on record that GoT is set within a Dyson Sphere. I think I said that earlier in this thread, but now this fan theory is on the rise (though the current theory says it's on a ringworld).

The Dyson Sphere theory actually comes from shortly after the second book was published, so well before the series, and even GRRM hinted at it as he stole food from various Santa Fe literary gatherings. The whole saga is "secretly sci-fi."
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 13, 2016, 08:31:45 AM
Wow...this is all you need if you just want to start with season six, RC! Sam Jackson recaps six years of GoT in 7 minutes Thug Notes style.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 19, 2016, 12:28:14 PM
Confirmed -- Season 7 will be seven episodes, starting next summer. And NO Sopranos delay for the final season 8! That'll run between six-eight episodes and will follow in 2018, though HBO hasn't said when.

And then there'll be a gigantic hole in the pay cable cosmos that'll probably result in some fascinating huge-budget fantasy/sci-fi power struggles.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on March 31, 2017, 10:21:15 AM
So... Cersei breathing out cold and fading into the Night King may break the internet.


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Post by: nacho on May 16, 2017, 07:58:30 AM
Oh, good, HBO orders five spin-off shows set in the GoT universe.

That won't be a FUCKING SHITSTORM at all, right?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 26, 2017, 10:20:16 AM
Oomph.

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 22, 2017, 08:36:47 PM
Wowzers...


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Post by: Sirharles on July 18, 2017, 10:46:27 AM
Watch the Season 7 premier yet?  Without going into details, I thought it was well done and set up the season well.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 18, 2017, 10:51:53 AM
Watch the Season 7 premier yet?  Without going into details, I thought it was well done and set up the season well.

Yeah, it was beautiful. Literally setting the playing board (at King's Landing and Dragonstone), eh?

Also, how about Sansa rocking Cersei's long-hair hairdo?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on July 18, 2017, 03:08:28 PM

Also, how about Sansa rocking Cersei's long-hair hairdo?

Makes me want to do a Sansa inspired photo shoot
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on July 19, 2017, 10:13:06 AM

Also, how about Sansa rocking Cersei's long-hair hairdo?

Makes me want to do a Sansa inspired photo shoot

I was all about her brief stint at the Aerie as Dark Sansa.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 07, 2017, 12:55:25 PM
Wheee... The dragons have finally been deployed in a proper battle. And what a battle it was. Amazing episode.

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Post by: Sirharles on August 07, 2017, 01:59:39 PM
I knew they were coming and it still gave me goosebumps when they flew into the shot.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 07, 2017, 02:05:47 PM
I knew they were coming and it still gave me goosebumps when they flew into the shot.

In a show that's all about battles, I think that one takes the cake.

Also, I would have killed Theon, despite "what he did for Sansa." Like, he pretty much did the least he could do for Sansa and that's the ONLY good thing he's EVER done!


Who saved Jaime? Bronn? Or Dickon (tee hee)?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 07, 2017, 03:47:48 PM

Who saved Jaime? Bronn? Or Dickon (tee hee)?

Not sure...my assumption was Bronn.  I'd have to watch it again to see if they show it.  I had to rewind and re-watch the Bran/ Little Finger interaction three times (with close captioning on the last time) to see what he was saying about Chaos is a ladder.  I'm assuming that's something Little Finger said to someone.  I can't remember.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 08, 2017, 07:41:22 AM

Who saved Jaime? Bronn? Or Dickon (tee hee)?

Not sure...my assumption was Bronn.  I'd have to watch it again to see if they show it.  I had to rewind and re-watch the Bran/ Little Finger interaction three times (with close captioning on the last time) to see what he was saying about Chaos is a ladder.  I'm assuming that's something Little Finger said to someone.  I can't remember.

Yeah, the  ladder of chaos was his big speech to Sansa last season. They showed it in the previously on recap!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 08, 2017, 08:30:17 AM
Oh, no, they didn't show it in the recap. Sorry.

So it's when he basically told Sansa that his only motivation was to let everyone destroy each other so that he could eventually sit on the Iron Throne and, gosh, wouldn't it be great if Sansa were his queen? Of course, part of his plan was to help everyone to destroy themselves faster, which he admitted to (stopping short of admitting his role in various murders).

Bran's mistake, though, is telling Littlefinger that he knows what he's up to. No one should ever do that.

Also on rewatching: Pretty sure it was Bronn who saved Jamie. It's not clear, but it's someone not wearing armour who, I presume, will go and double-save Jamie in the next episode.

What we need to theorize now is how everyone's arcs are going to end. Because I thought Bronn would die for the gold or, having failed that, go out in a blaze of glory at the scorpion. The fact that he didn't means that he has a final role to play (beyond saving Jamie).
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 08, 2017, 09:48:57 AM
I read an interesting article where it theorized Bronn was changing into someone who believes in something as opposed to just a sellsword.  The article also went further to state, we might see Jamie captured...again.  And then traded for the Greyjoy chick.  But I'd find that somewhat disappointing. 
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 08, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
I read an interesting article where it theorized Bronn was changing into someone who believes in something as opposed to just a sellsword.  The article also went further to state, we might see Jamie captured...again.  And then traded for the Greyjoy chick.  But I'd find that somewhat disappointing. 

Bronn believes in Bad Pussy! Who is now rotting in a cell, sadly.

Yeah, I didn't want to theorize on Jamie, because that's where the show jumps the shark: A reversal of fortune that's ham-handedly used to conclude Tyrion's journey: Mad queen captures Lannister brother, other Lannister brother guiltily frees imprisoned brother, imprisoned brother stalks the halls with borrowed weapon seeking vengeance. Blah.

And a trade for Yara would be dumb, as well, because she's pretty much useless now. Besides, Dany just destroyed the food supply for King's Landing. So all she has to do now is besiege them and the people will rise up.

What I hope for is that Jamie either dies or is dragged to safety by maybe-Bronn and his journey continues. But having him captured (yet again) is a mistake no matter how they play it.   


Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 15, 2017, 12:14:08 PM
A nice "setup" episode.  And I love the "Suicide Squad" memes that are going around.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 15, 2017, 01:53:03 PM
A nice "setup" episode.  And I love the "Suicide Squad" memes that are going around.

Talk about moving the story along a warp speed though.  It's like everyone except for Sam are actually in the same building just going from room to room.

So you caught Gilly's discovery that Jon outranks Dany in terms of having a claim to the Iron Throne, right?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 15, 2017, 02:11:43 PM
So you caught Gilly's discovery that Jon outranks Dany in terms of having a claim to the Iron Throne, right?

If I'm being honest, yes and no.  I knew her discovery was important but I had to research to find out exactly what it was.  Truth be told, I get confused by all the names and "Houses".

"I'm naught a smaaart maaaann"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 16, 2017, 06:44:14 PM
So...just watched the leaked episode and... Holy motherfucking holy fucking shit. Wow.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 21, 2017, 11:18:23 AM
Jesus!

Talk about a blow!  So you not only do you lose a dragon, but you give it to the other side.  And that's how they get past the wall.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 22, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
Jesus!

Talk about a blow!  So you not only do you lose a dragon, but you give it to the other side.  And that's how they get past the wall.

It's actually Bran's fault -- which I bet we're about to find out. When the Night King marked him, and he went south, it weakened the wall. The wards were further weakened when the Night King wiped out the Three-Eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest (the latter are the ones who created the wards in the first place). Remember how the wights couldn't enter the cave of the Three-Eyed Raven until the Night King marked Bran?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 22, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
I didn't put that together.  The beauty of this show is there are so many tie ins.  The worst thing about this show is there are SO MANY TIE INS.

After next week, I'll need to spend the next year rewatching everything, just to remember what the hell is going on.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 24, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
My wife watched Sunday's episode with friends in North Carolina while we were down there for the eclipse. Now she's obsessively watching recap clips on YouTube. Yet even she realizes the whole ting is long in the tooth. "Even the 10 minute recaps are like, 'Get on with it.'"
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 24, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
My wife watched Sunday's episode with friends in North Carolina while we were down there for the eclipse. Now she's obsessively watching recap clips on YouTube. Yet even she realizes the whole ting is long in the tooth. "Even the 10 minute recaps are like, 'Get on with it.'"

You really can't just jump in now, man!

And the big complaint currently is that they're getting on with it too fast.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on August 28, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
Well...that was...um...amazing.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2017, 09:34:56 AM
Well...that was...um...amazing.

Yeah. I'm still reeling a bit. I had to rewind and rewatch like half that episode just to revel in it!

Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 05, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
So...we have to wait till mid-2019 for the final season. Fucking HBO.
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Post by: nacho on February 01, 2018, 06:25:14 PM
So...spoiler alert! But unavoidable because half of Ireland saw it. HBO built a scale model of Winterfell and...burned it down. The videos taken by people from roadsides and fields from miles around look awesome. I can't imagine what it'll look like after post-production. My god.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on January 31, 2019, 07:22:01 PM
God...I can't wait.

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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 05, 2019, 05:59:19 PM
The Bud Light / GoT mash-up during the Super Bowl was hilarious.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on February 05, 2019, 06:08:10 PM
The Bud Light / GoT mash-up during the Super Bowl was hilarious.

Eh... I am aware of the work.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 16, 2019, 03:29:58 PM
Is this thing not over yet?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 17, 2019, 10:25:10 AM
Is this thing not over yet?

We have, like, seven more 14 hour episodes.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 29, 2019, 11:16:32 AM
Every social media outlet I'm on has spent the past sixteen hours blowing up with "Winterfell!" "Night King" "Arya!" "Bran!" and I don't know what any of it means.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on April 30, 2019, 11:45:09 AM
Every social media outlet I'm on has spent the past sixteen hours blowing up with "Winterfell!" "Night King" "Arya!" "Bran!" and I don't know what any of it means.

Basically the greatest and most dangerous enemy that has haunted the series since the first three minutes got killed randomly and super easily during the most poorly lit 82 minutes ever filmed.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 07, 2019, 12:05:47 PM
Everyone who keeps telling me I should watch GOT are also the ones complaining about the "too dark" episode and the Starbucks cup.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 08, 2019, 10:40:12 AM
Everyone who keeps telling me I should watch GOT are also the ones complaining about the "too dark" episode and the Starbucks cup.

The Starbucks cup debacle actually bumped a major hit for one of my books on Monday at Buzzfeed! It comes out today now. We had the whole marketing machine geared up and ready to go, too. Very annoying.

GOT is wonderful. But the problem with this season is that it's a clumsy rush job to the finale that is going against every character's motivations. Every episode is barely coherent as they race wildly to tie up a decade's worth of loose ends. They've also made the fatal mistake of paying fan service. It's almost meta now -- with jokes being made about twitter memes, an characters being forced into slots so that they can have artificial showdowns that the fans have dreamed of but don't make sense to the overall narrative.

Two problems here: First, they ran out of the source material long ago and have been on their own. The center held for a season or two, but then it all came crashing down. Secondly, I suspect HBO pulled a Rome on them -- too expensive. Wrap it up now. You have six months to figure out how.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: Sirharles on May 16, 2019, 10:40:16 PM
I agree that they are rushing to complete storylines and it shows. 

But I don't think HBO is too concerned about the money.  Just some quick math.  Each episode has roughly 35 million viewers, that's an average I'm getting from the 38 million that saw the first episode.  Each viewer/household has to drop about $30 for the two months the episodes air in.  That's 1.5 billion.  Each episode cost 15 million, add in re-shoots extra VFX, taking out coffee cups etc.  Call it 120 million for overall production.  That's still a profit of over a billion.  Even if my numbers are exaggerated and doubled, their profits are still well into the several hundred million.  And if they made more seasons they would generate more profit.  Nobody except the HBO bigwigs know how much they are really profiting, but I find the exercise interesting.

“The Bells,” which aired this past Sunday, was watched by a record 18.4 million viewers across HBO’s platforms (linear, HBO GO and HBO NOW), exceeding the previous series high of 17.8 million viewers two weeks ago for the episode “The Long Night,” focusing on the Battle of Winterfell. In addition to the series high for the night, the 9:00 p.m. airing reached a time-period high for GAME OF THRONES, with an average of 12.5 million viewers, surpassing the season seven finale of 12.1 million viewers. Season eight of GAME OF THRONES is averaging 43 million viewers per episode in gross audience, an increase of more than ten million viewers when compared to season seven.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 17, 2019, 10:05:35 AM
Both Rome and Deadwood had record viewership as well (though pale compared to GoT, of course) and HBO rushed them to get them off the docket and make room for dumb single-camera stuff, which costs nothing but earns the same (e.g., John Oliver). Meanwhile, HBO sells all the sets and makes a fortune. Rome was shut down in 2007 and HBO still rents the sets out for top dollar. Every Roman-era TV and movie you've seen since 2007 has been on the Rome set, with a giant royalty check going to the HBO execs (and no one else).
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2019, 11:53:01 AM
So that was the worst season of TV I've ever had to sit through...but also one of the best finales! Strange!
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
Paranoia watch: AV Club has noted how everything in the finale addressed everything the fans have been complaining about -- right down to Jon petting Ghost. Since, of course, this finale was filmed long ago before those complaints, isn't it odd that they addressed all the complaints so perfectly?

AV Club suggests: is the divisive fandom actually HBO trolling us?
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 20, 2019, 12:46:58 PM
What is “real” anymore, eh?

I’ve seen a few “end of the monoculture” posts in relation to GOT. There’s this whole discussion about how it’s likely the last all encompassing TV show we’ll get where the whole culture tunes in.

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Post by: monkey! on June 18, 2019, 10:03:31 AM
GoT season 8 is preferable only to having a pack of dogs pull you down and begin to rape you and as half the pack ejaculate their rabies-ridden tummy worms into your gnawed rectum, the other half rip out your throat to finish in your gullet.
Title: Re: Ice & Fire (Game of Thrones)
Post by: nacho on June 18, 2019, 12:27:55 PM
GoT season 8 is preferable only to having a pack of dogs pull you down and begin to rape you and as half the pack ejaculate their rabies-ridden tummy worms into your gnawed rectum, the other half rip out your throat to finish in your gullet.

You're being kind.