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Posted by: nacho
« on: February 06, 2018, 12:00:35 PM »

You're apparently the outlier on this though. Everybody I know raves about it.

It's not bad. I like the idea that the first season is actually covering, like, 15 timelines or some shit and we're left to think about how and why.

But it's so introspective. And I feel like the timeline fuckery is the only new thing about it. otherwise, it's a rehashed "robots are us/we are robots/robots are aware" tropefest. I mean, remove one clever plot device, and maybe give fewer lines to Hopkins, and we've been watching this same story since Capek's RUR.

Now I know that argument can be made about everything, but I hate it when they try to hide behind it (see Interstellar and Inception -- a reskin of Arrival and Dreamscape, but given this Millennial "YOU AIN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE!!!" twist).

Westworld could be great if they weren't so obsessed about making it look great. You know what I mean?

Another factor: We're in an era of grand storytelling both on the small screen and large. Westworld also suffers from the fact that there is a glut of unique and interesting takes on sci-fi tropes happening at the moment. Every channel has one. Westworld benefits from production value and that HBO charm, but it's one of many in a sea of great TV that none of us have time to watch anyway. It almost feels 15 years too late. Or maybe too early. 
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: February 06, 2018, 11:28:45 AM »

You're apparently the outlier on this though. Everybody I know raves about it.
Posted by: nacho
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:25:15 AM »

I'm hoping this is the sort of show that's good after it gets cancelled.
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: February 05, 2018, 10:53:20 AM »

More from the Super Bowl...

Posted by: nacho
« on: July 25, 2017, 11:57:55 AM »

Maybe something will happen this season!
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: July 23, 2017, 10:27:25 PM »

Season 2 trailer:

Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: January 22, 2017, 11:51:57 AM »

Posted by: nacho
« on: January 06, 2017, 03:36:08 PM »

BTW, you seem to be the outlier on Westworld. Everybody (and I mean everybody) I start talking to about pop culture raves about how good they think it is.

I sometimes wonder if you're hampered by your vast exposure to the history of fantasy and sci-fi and that since everything is derivative, you can see all the influences that a show pulls from. Like those sportswriters who have studied college basketball for forty years, but who can't pick NCAA brackets for shit because they simply over-analyze everything.

You watch it, then. See what you think. And when you come crying back to me I'll say I told you so.
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: January 06, 2017, 12:17:41 PM »

BTW, you seem to be the outlier on Westworld. Everybody (and I mean everybody) I start talking to about pop culture raves about how good they think it is.

I sometimes wonder if you're hampered by your vast exposure to the history of fantasy and sci-fi and that since everything is derivative, you can see all the influences that a show pulls from. Like those sportswriters who have studied college basketball for forty years, but who can't pick NCAA brackets for shit because they simply over-analyze everything.
Posted by: nacho
« on: December 26, 2016, 12:26:25 PM »

When I get a chance, I want to watch that... Because I think the timeline shenanigans was a bit too much for me. It was almost too clever for the show's own good.

Plus, I have a theory that there's a third timeline and that Maeve is another 30 years in the future.

All that would be awesome and great...if the show was awesome and great. At the level they're playing at, though, it's just a stupid gimmick.
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: December 24, 2016, 06:09:01 PM »

In having to interact with other humans because of the holidays, I've found a lot of people really like the new Westworld.

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We recut all 10 hours of ‘Westworld’ into a single, chronological timeline

https://theoutline.com/post/637/westworld-recut-into-single-timeline
Posted by: nacho
« on: December 06, 2016, 01:07:34 PM »

Okay. So I watched the bullshit finale, which was 90% The Inward Journey of Our Souls At Teatime and 10% robot apocalypse, primarily to provide a cliffhanger.

The robot apocalypse was fun. Talking about a children's puzzle game for 40 minutes and how it relates to self-discovery of one's interior monologue was not fun.

Season two won't air until 2018 when, I imagine, they're planning to team it up with the final season of GoT so we'll all sit there and watch it because we'll be too shocked to change the channel.
Posted by: nacho
« on: November 29, 2016, 01:39:16 PM »

Hopefully not.
Posted by: Sirharles
« on: November 29, 2016, 01:35:19 PM »

It always ends with auto-erotic asphyxiation with you doesn't it?
Posted by: nacho
« on: November 29, 2016, 01:06:06 PM »

I think Maeve is in the current timeline because she saw that advertisement that pretty much said the park had been at it for three decades.

Bernard and Dolores talking in the secret room was indeed in the past. Her initial awakening (so she's Patient Zero?). If I cared enough about this show, I'd try and pay attention to the visual clues. (Such as when Dolores is in her blue dress -- which seems like the past -- and when she's naked, which seems like the present.) Apparently, we're also supposed to pay attention to the logos (as opposed to the technology). There is an older logo that drifts around very subtly seemingly only in the past timeline.

So here's my prediction. William and Dolores, during her initial awakening, go to the edge of the map and shit gets fucked up. Perhaps that's when she kills Arnold? Everything is rebooted, but William is consumed by the insanity that's already starting to take him and becomes "addicted" to solving some greater riddle. Maybe we're on a quest for immortality here. So then we reveal the two timelines in full and Maeve starts her rebellion and...the show peters out before the end of the second season and we look back on this thread in five years when Ed Harris dies of auto-erotic asphyxiation in Bangkok.