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Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on August 31, 2005, 05:30:24 PM
The coming topic is the 05 gas crisis!  They're saying a 50 cent rise by labor day.  They're saying doom and despair.

More interesting than that, though, are the rumors of no gas in this hyar town.  The news is awful quiet about something friends are reporting on.  Cass says Asheville and surrounding towns are now dry.  I've heard similar rumors from CA, NM and one cheap station in Ohio...which explains it.  People are racing out to get gas.  But whole cities like Asheville going dry?  What's up with that?

Once something like that hits the news, or begins to creep into a major city, it'll be a flashpoint. Which I think will be loads of fun!

So roundup in this thread -- gas prices, gas lines, dry cities and running gun battles.  Let's also play the "how expensive is your gas today" game!  We're at 2.68 at the big stations near the Metro and 2.53 at my little cheapo station.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Nubbins on August 31, 2005, 06:06:04 PM
I'm not sure what the prices are here just yet.  I filled up on Monday thanks to Jody's mom and paid 2.56 a gallon.  The Kroger next to my office is badass and actually has gas pumps outside where you can use your Kroger Plus Card for a .03 a gallon discount.

Today though, the family that I work for is moving.  They rented a truck to help David move his stuff and he went out an hour ago to go get gas for it.  He said every gas station within 10 miles of here has 20-30 people in line for gas, so it's definitely affecting us here.  

I'm also supposed to catch a flight to NY tomorrow, but I don't know if that's going to be jeapordized or not.  The rumor mill says that the airlines won't have enough fuel to run their planes, but I can't believe it's as serious as all that.... it's not, right guys? RIGHT?!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Cassander on August 31, 2005, 06:07:52 PM
ok, so here's the deal...i went out around 11:00 this morning because my mom called and said asheville was already out of gas and that people were coming down here to my small town to get gas.  i filled up this morning at 2.80 with about a ten minute wait.  this afternoon my mom calls and says they're going to shut off all the gas stations at 5pm (unconfirmed rumor) and i need to come get her car from work and fill it up.  

so i drive out then, pick up the Highlander and quickly find that half the gas stations are already out of gas or have shut down (holding onto reserves), and the others are backed up crazily.  4:00pm gas prices: 3.15 for regular, which was empty at the place i went to, 3.25 for the intermediate octane.  about a twenty minute wait.

i think, personally, everyone jumped on this thinking to stock up before prices skyrocketed and then it turned into a small panic.  but i'm also hearing on the radio that they're sending some of our gas to louisiana and memphis or that they're preparing for some kind of ration system or that, simply, there will be no gas delivered for another week or month (depending on how paranoid the story-teller is).  i'm expecting all the gas stations here in town to be empty by 7pm.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Cassander on August 31, 2005, 06:08:58 PM
i've got CNN on right now and they're saying some places in atlanta are $4.99 a gallon. woo!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 06:14:24 PM
Woah woah woah. What's the big fuss? We've been paying 2.90+ over here on the central coast for a few weeks. No lines and freakouts over here.

God. Now it's the good old American "Baseless Panic Mode". Duct tape your windows! That'll keep the gas prices down!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Matt on August 31, 2005, 06:15:48 PM
If you don't buy gas, guys, the terrorists win.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 31, 2005, 06:17:42 PM
I got $2.88 a gallon and tehy're saying over $3 by Friday.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Matt
If you don't buy gas, guys, the terrorists win.


Isn't it the other way around in reality? Like, the gas producing nations have ties to terrorist groups?
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 31, 2005, 06:29:21 PM
So, I think we're probably in America Freak Out mode right now, but if there is an actual gas shortage (a major one) do you realize how the panic the country will go into?
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Matt on August 31, 2005, 06:32:40 PM
Study Questions:
1. When Oedipus kills his own father, this is an example of...?
2. What is the term ascribed to a situation where a son is running away from his father because he's been prophesied to be the murderer of his father and kills his father?
3. When you fuck your mother and don't know she's your mother, this is an example of...?
4. When someone says, in response to the proclamation that you have diarrhea, "That's pretty shitty," this is an example of what variation on the theme we discussed in study questions two and three?
5. Is (answers to questions one and two) truly dead?

edit to make it clear.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on August 31, 2005, 06:33:53 PM
Great time for a RT to Ohio.  I'll pay 30 bucks for gas out and 120 bucks back, right?  Only to return and find DC a Mad Max wasteland.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: RottingCorpse
So, I think we're probably in America Freak Out mode right now, but if there is an actual gas shortage (a major one) do you realize how the panic the country will go into?


That's why we should all be hippies and drive vans powered by free love, man.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on August 31, 2005, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.tidalforce.com
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Matt on August 31, 2005, 06:41:34 PM
So I look at the picture of John Cusack in the corner and think, "Christ, he's getting old." Also, in another example of the subject that study guide was talking about, Tyson, the Iowa Review's second edition to their 35th volume was released yesterday, and it had an introduction that spoke about the tsunami and the devastating effects of it all.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: nacho
http://www.tidalforce.com


Quote
Ride to work without worrying about sweating through your suit
...
There are no emissions so you can help the environment EXCEPT AT THE COAL PLANT!
...
Rapidly respond to crime scenes, accidents and other critical locations while conserving officer strength and energy


And here's the pre-sale qualification questionaire:

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=16668458486831765053
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Nubbins on August 31, 2005, 07:00:47 PM
Ma just called from Upstate NY.  She said Atlanta's on the news.  Gas lines going apeshit.  She said there was a shot of a BP downtown at over $6 a gallon.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 31, 2005, 07:33:06 PM
Apparently the $6 a gallon price tage is to keep people from buying gas there. Apparently owners are setting up some sort of ration system. Apparently we're all fucked.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 07:38:39 PM
Must... Not... Be... Stupid... Nervous... American...

Acutally, I'm taking my bike with me when I drive to the parent's place this weekend. If I run out of gas - pah-chink! I'll bike home!

No, really: are there any credible sources/reports of a run on gas in the west? If so, it better clear up by this Friday. Stat!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on August 31, 2005, 08:16:27 PM
DC Gas Report: $3 a gallon, no lines, no fights, nothing.  You yokels are panicmongering.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Nubbins on August 31, 2005, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: nacho
DC Gas Report: $3 a gallon, no lines, no fights, nothing.  You yokels are panicmongering.


Seriously, so I just drove home down Roswell Road (runs parallel to GA 400) because I wanted to see if it was true.  The truth: gas is over $3 a gallon, but the most expensive I saw was around $3.20... and people are fucking invading them.  There were sporadic statioins that appeared pretty normal, but for the most part they were all full of cars, which made getting beer kind of an adventure.  As I got closer to the city, it got worse.  Out by my apartment, there's an intersection with 3 stations at its corners and the fucking thing is clogged as hell with cars in line and spilling out onto the streets.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on August 31, 2005, 09:15:22 PM
Must be a regional thing.

Wait'll Friday and the prices drop back down a little. Then there'll be no one at the stations. That would be classic!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 31, 2005, 10:14:48 PM
The problem is that it wasn't as if gas prices were improving before this.

Again, I think it's panicking, but if not . . .
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Nubbins on September 01, 2005, 01:23:59 AM
Quote from: RottingCorpse
The problem is that it wasn't as if gas prices were improving before this.

Again, I think it's panicking, but if not . . .


Fuck yeah it is.  There's no way we completely run out of fuel.  It's all the disinformation that's travelling around.

CNN: So, Governor, where do you go from here?  How do we begin to make the situation better than it is?

GOVERNOR: Well basically, and I've spoken with President Bush about this, we are going to tap our UCLA, MIT and Berkely resources here and speed up our research into Time Travel.  Hopefully, we'll have a device created within the next month so that we can transport tapes of this disaster back in time and show people how bad things have really gotten and avoid a lot of this mess.  Also, we've raided the armband-floatie supply of local pool stores throughout the country and hope to ship as many of those as we can to the Southeast once our tapes arrive in 4 days ago.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on September 01, 2005, 01:39:01 AM
Quote from: Nubbins
There's no way we completely run out of fuel.  It's all the disinformation that's travelling around.


Are you saying that we'll never run out of fossil fuels? Am I misunderstanding you?
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Nubbins on September 01, 2005, 01:46:08 AM
Quote from: Tyson
Quote from: Nubbins
There's no way we completely run out of fuel.  It's all the disinformation that's travelling around.


Are you saying that we'll never run out of fossil fuels? Am I misunderstanding you?


Eventually?  Perhaps...

In the next 2 weeks?  No fucking way.

Besides, even if every state is bone dry in 2 weeks, what the fuck is one, solitary, full tank of gas at $3 a gallon really going to do for you?  And really, even if we don't run out of gas and the prices soar to $7 a gallon, how is shoving gas at $3 a gallon into your car now really going to save you anything?

It's just sheer, illogical insanity for absolutely no reason whatsoever.  Trust me... those of us who filled up on Monday at $2.50 are going to be just as fucked in the long run if prices go to $6 as those of you who waited 2 hours for gas at $3 a gallon today.

Mindless hysteria... all of it.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on September 01, 2005, 03:12:45 AM
Quote from: Nubbins
Quote from: Tyson


Are you saying that we'll never run out of fossil fuels? Am I misunderstanding you?


Eventually?  Perhaps...

In the next 2 weeks?  No fucking way.


The oil companies themselves seem to be predicting 50 years until we're bone-dry. While that *is* a long ways off, it's not going to be an easy slope to reach. When oil gets harder to find, gas will skyrocket. That will hopefully force all the gas stragglers at that time over to whatever alternative energy source we're using them.

I'm largely in favor of conserving gas. Get rid of power plants that use any derivative of oil. Get rid of wasteful vehicles. Focus research on hybrid technologies. That way, the transition will be much easier and we can potentially extend that 50 years by a number of years.

Our lifetimes are going to be really interesting, I bet. Already are! Woo!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2005, 10:07:01 AM
Quote from: Tyson


The oil companies themselves seem to be predicting 50 years until we're bone-dry. While that *is* a long ways off, it's not going to be an easy slope to reach. When oil gets harder to find, gas will skyrocket. That will hopefully force all the gas stragglers at that time over to whatever alternative energy source we're using them.

I'm largely in favor of conserving gas. Get rid of power plants that use any derivative of oil. Get rid of wasteful vehicles. Focus research on hybrid technologies. That way, the transition will be much easier and we can potentially extend that 50 years by a number of years.

Our lifetimes are going to be really interesting, I bet. Already are! Woo!


Stop!  Now, take a breath.  Ready?  Okay:  Who's predicting it?

Right, a group of giant multi-gazillion dollar organizations run by committee.  Do you think they want their daily multi-gazillion dollars to end on Wednesday, June 12th 2050?  No. Forget crying to the auto companies, it's the oil companies that'll come up with the next fuel source.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: jreale on September 01, 2005, 12:54:30 PM
Boulder gas report: $2.80/gal, no lines but lots of plucky youth invading the town as the University of Colorado starts up its fall semester.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Cassander on September 01, 2005, 01:05:29 PM
jody, you live in boulder?

what's up?  that's one of the places on my list to look at that i might move to.  dish a little...
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: jreale on September 01, 2005, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: Cassander
jody, you live in boulder?

what's up?  that's one of the places on my list to look at that i might move to.  dish a little...


From my post to the "A Word on Handouts" thread yesterday...


I live about 30 minutes from the People's Republic of Boulder, which is a pretty awesome place if you like liberals, outdoor sports, nature and bars with live music. It's not the place for you if beautiful people with trust funds (Trustifarians), out of control housing and a 2:1 man to woman ratio bug you.

The public transportation is good, but the trouble is, if you leave Boulder, you're pretty much screwed. Denver's public transportation situation is shameful, but no one notices because everyone--everyone--drives everywhere. There's light rail going in, but a useful system is years away.

Oh! And I'm here. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Cassander on September 01, 2005, 02:08:04 PM
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liberals, outdoor sports, nature and bars with live music


i do love those things...
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: jreale on September 01, 2005, 02:11:04 PM
Well, there you go. And as far as I know, there's never been a six-week old fetus swirling overhead.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2005, 06:02:56 PM
No lines, no panic and $3 a gallon from DC to Flushing.

Next up -- Pictures of Kittybug!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on September 01, 2005, 06:27:46 PM
Gas: $107
Road-side stand food: $17
Driving a few hundred miles for a picture of a cat: Priceless
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2005, 06:33:48 PM
Well, I took my Kittybug pictures.  I'm going to head back to DC now!
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: Tyson on September 01, 2005, 06:40:40 PM
Gosh, that must have been fantastic! Do a front page update! Did you do different poses? Maybe different filters on the camera?

Inquiring minds *must* know.
Title: I've got gas, too!
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2005, 06:42:13 PM
They're up, dooder