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Title: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on April 23, 2010, 06:23:32 PM
Well, we have an AvP thread, but no Aliens thread?

If I'm wrong, merge this RC.  Or whatever.  But here's a thread for all the Alien movies, as well as the forthcoming prequel (details below).

Scott's long talked about doing a prequel about the "Space Jockey," so at least there's some sense that this isn't a weird ass throwaway.  He was talking about this in the 80's...and the comics, et. al. have dutifully filled in the backstory since then.


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An Alien prequel that unspools the back story of the mysterious Space Jockey — the giant, fossilized creature with the burst-open chest from the first movie — is definitely going to happen, according to Ridley Scott.

“It’s fundamentally about going out to find out ‘Who the hell was that Space Jockey?’” the director told MTV News. “The guy who was sitting in the chair in the alien vehicle — there was a giant fellow sitting in a seat on what looked to be either a piece of technology or an astronomer’s chair.”

Scott, who’s polishing the script, drops even more details about the Alien prequel, which he calls a done deal in the enlightening interview: The movie will be set in 2085, will delve into the concept of terraforming and might even feature new concept artwork by the amazing H.R. Giger, Scott said.

And why is Scott, who has forsworn making sequels to his films, tackling the Alien prequel? “They’ve squeezed the franchise dry,” he told MTV. “The first one will always be the most frightening, because the beast we put together with Giger and all its parts — the face-hugger, the chest-burster, the egg — they were all totally original, and that’s hard to follow.”
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 23, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
We just have the AvP thread.

My inner geek wants to get excited by this, and maybe with Scott at the helm, they can get back to that weird surreal horror of the original. I have my doubts though.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on April 23, 2010, 06:33:47 PM
My trouble is that the Space Jockeys have been so abused by the comics and books, and even the novelization of the first movie.  The problem is that there is no backstory.  It was just a fancy set.  Scott and the writers had nothing in mind.  So the "expanded" Alien franchise has gone everywhere from benevolent elephant-men to obsessive zoologists to inter-galactic assholes bent on enslaving Mankind.

And, in the end, no matter the direction, it just seems boring.  Either they crashed on LV-426 and got fucked up like everyone else in the Alien movies, or they were purposely carrying the Alien cargo somewhere and something went wrong.  Stuff that's all been covered one way or another in the first four movies.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 13, 2010, 02:46:48 PM
Sounds like a debacle, but who knows . . . What was Ridley Scott's last good movie?

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Fox Flips for Damon Lindelof’s Alien Prequel Script, Wants Natalie Portman to Star

Vulture just got word: Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof turned in his new draft of the screenplay for Ridley Scott's Alien  prequel on Saturday, and 20th Century Fox execs are very pleased with it indeed! We’re told all involved parties have been made to sign nondisclosure agreements about the plot, but our spies have been able to glean several interesting nuggets about the project, which is set roughly 35 years before Scott’s dystopic classic. Here's what we know ...

One reason Fox execs are so thrilled with Lindelof’s Alien draft is that, not only is it creatively engaging, but it adds no expensive "set pieces" — production-speak for elaborate, effects-heavy action sequences that add millions to the cost of a film — to the movie. 20th Century Fox and Scott have been wrangling over the director’s proposed budget. One insider familiar with the situation puts Scott’s suggested budget at between $150 million and $160 million; Fox obviously, would like that number to shrink. Still, this is some good news for Fox, which has almost nothing resembling a blockbuster in the hopper for the summer of 2012, and could certainly stand to reinvigorate a wildly popular multi-part sci-fi franchise.

A parade of actresses have met with Scott (who's being represented in these negotiations by his longtime WME agent George Freeman) to discuss the lead role — that of a female Colonial Marine general — but only two have engendered substantial enthusiasm from both Fox brass and Scott Free, the director’s Fox-based production company: Vulture can report exclusively that at the top of the list is Natalie Portman. (She recently detached herself from the adaptation of Seth Grahame-Smith’s Pride and Prejudice and Zombies at Lionsgate Films out of concern that she was now too old to play the part of Jane Austen’s Elizabeth Bennet. Portman turns 30 next June; Bennet is only 20 in both Austen and Grahame-Smith’s versions of Pride.) Right behind Portman is the already-reported Noomi Rapace, star of the Swedish The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.

Don’t take Scott’s recent interview with The Independent — in which he claims that the Alien prequel would be “really tough, really nasty” — to mean this is automatically going to be an R picture: We’re told another reason Fox execs are pleased with Lindelof’s re-write of original screenwriter Jon Spaihts’ script is that it's still aimed at a more accessible PG-13 rating. "The thinking," explains one insider, "is that if the original Alien were released today, minus the F-bombs, you could still get a PG-13. Alien is a very Jaws-ian movie: There’s no sex, and while there’s lots of violence, most of it is off-camera. Maybe you’d have to cut away from certain scenes two seconds earlier, but it could be done."

The prequel still lacks a proper name. Untitled Alien Prequel hardly comes trippingly off the tongue, but while several titles are being bandied about, none have unanimous support of Fox and Scott.

It’s not in any way a reboot of Alien or the Aliens franchise; it’s really meant to be viewed as Scott’s second Alien movie. What's more, no Predator creatures appear anywhere within the film. Despite Fox’s efforts to mate the two sci-fi icons (sci-ficons?), Scott’s camp sees the two franchises as hailing from distinct genres that will not co-mingle, synergy be damned. “The later Aliens movies were action movies, but the original Alien was a horror-suspense film," explains one spy, "This returns the franchise to its roots."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on October 13, 2010, 02:52:55 PM
If it's not a reboot, and it is a prequel, then how are they going to explain contact with the aliens prior to the Nostramo? It's shit like that that worries me.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
I don't really understand what the fuck is going on anymore, but sure, whatever.

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Ridley Scott Directing 'Prometheus' For Fox; Noomi Rapace Locked While Angelina Jolie And Charlize Theron Circling; Damon Lindelof Scripted With Scott From 'Alien' DNA

EXCLUSIVE: First, it started out as an Alien Prequel. But then it morphed into something "more original", an insider tells us -- even though Hollywood kept referring to the project as "The Alien Prequel" right up until today when Twentieth Century Fox officially announced the new Ridley Scott production as Prometheus is now bound for worldwide release on March 9th, 2012. Returning to science fiction filmmaking for the first time since Blade Runner, Scott will direct this epic. Of the five major roles to be cast, Noomi Rapace is the first actor signed to star (as "Elizabeth Shaw"), and we hear that Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron are both circling the other big female lead ("Vickers").

The initial draft of the script was written by Jon Spaihts (The Darkest Hour) from Ridley’s idea. Damon Lindelof (Lost, Star Trek) and Scott have since been working together on the current version which has expanded the story into new directions. We hear they were instructed to "go off and come up with what they want" using the 'Alien DNA'. Though story details are being closely guarded, Ridley explained the outlines of the film and its genesis as follows: “While Alien was indeed the jumping off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative. I couldn't be more pleased to have found the singular tale I'd been searching for, and finally return to this genre that's so close to my heart.”

Says Lindelof: "In a world flooded with prequels, sequels and reboots, I was incredibly struck by just how original Ridley's vision was for this movie. It's daring, visceral and hopefully, the last thing anyone expects. When I sat in a movie theater as a kid, feet raised off the floor for fear that something might grab my ankles, I never dreamed in my wildest imagination I would one day get to collaborate with the man responsible for it. Working alongside him has been nothing short of a dream come true."

Swedish actress Noomi Rapace landed the scientist's role after Scott saw her portrayal of fictional Lisbeth Salander in the film The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo as well as the rest of the Steig Larssen. All Fox would say is that the other roles "would be cast soon".
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
I like that headline.  Sounds like nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2011, 09:08:30 PM
So, is it just going to be about the space jockeys? No alien/xenomorphs? That's the impression I get.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Well, the Space Jockey-only idea was bantered around a couple years ago... And they do have a big backstory in the comics... But, you know, it's boring. We don't care about why some elephant-people race was motivated to create and/or harvest the aliens.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2011, 10:40:07 PM
I'm going to try and stay open minded about this one, but I smell something that's very similar to dogshit brewing.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2011, 11:03:53 PM
I'm going to try and stay open minded about this one, but I smell something that's very similar to dogshit brewing.

Wait... Is this 1992 and we're talking about Alien 3? Or are you just now smelling dogshit after what this franchise has been doing to our asses for 20 years?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 27, 2011, 07:28:02 PM
Sounds like somebody at Fox shit the bed over the last report. Or maybe all this confusion in the geek press is just about misdirection because they've got to get audiences interested in Alien again.

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EXCLUSIVE: PROMETHEUS PLOT REVEAL - ALIENS ARE IN IT

It turns out that Ridley Scott's recent comments that Prometheus would be a departure from the Aliens series are somewhat misleading.

An exclusive source has told us that not only are HR Giger's classic aliens in it, but that they're integral to the plot.

Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past.

"They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us.
 
"Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently."

And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"?

It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself.

"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed.

It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect.
 
"The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."

So, here's the thing. I want this to be good. The elements are certainly there to make this interesting, but as Nacho has mentioned before, the space jockey story has been beaten int o the ground in various spin-offs over the years. (The first Dark Horse comic series did it best, I feel. It was all PA freak-out until Ripley came back and they went to the alien home-world where it got super gay.)

I also submit that going to the alien homeworld can do nothing but disappoint. Ridley Scott wants to turn back time and it's too late.

See, in interviews Scott and the cast of the original told of all the crazy conversations they had about the alien. What it is, where it came from, etc. The idea they all had was it was this sophisticated species that was beyond our comprehension to understand, which is ironic because for all the crazy life cycle stuff it's basically, you know, a monster. But Scott and crew insisted that there was some complex something-or-other going on here.

Then Cameron came along and did the whole hive/queen "bug" thing and sort of ruined all that. The alien became overgrown insects. "They're animals, man." That has continued through the rest of the series. Sure, even Cameron hinted that there was something bigger going on, but that was all but abandoned by Alien3, which fucked up everything for the duration.

I don't know. I'm interested in this because I like the first movie a lot. I love the idea that Scott wants to pick up on concepts he and the cast talked about over drinks and weed way back in the late seventies. However, I don't think you're going to make people forget thirty years of story that's happened since the first one came out.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 28, 2011, 12:31:42 AM
Just got done watching the original as part of our slow-going sci-fi re-watch Project.  I won't say "still surprisingly good" because I never doubted that it would be good.  I really haven't seen it in, like, ten years, but every time I've rewatched it I've felt the same way I did when I was a kid...really in awe of the set, the creepiness, and fully riding alongside Ripley by the end.  I won't apply the following sentence to Aliens, cause I want to rewatch it as well and I still have a little respect for Cameron, but all the sequels seem to be devoid of the basic formula that made Alien great, which is: incrementally reveal everything, build all the scares upon each other in a logical way, leave a few mysteries, then strobe light the fuck out of us as our hearts pound in the climax. 

It's a classic screenwriting formula, and executed almost perfectly.  The only thing you don't really get in Alien is a real sympathy with all the characters as a crew.  That's always hard to pull off, but only starting with about 6 people, it should be easier.  Alien sort of misses an opportunity to really turn the whole crew against Ash and have them bond a little bit.  Instead I feel like Dallas gets most of the sympathy and the rest are just meat. 

But I agree with you, RC.  Trying to have an earlier story about all kinds of space travel and planet hopping and DNA, etc. sort of negates the charm (even though in 1979 it probably seemed WAY COOL) of the clunky keyboards, excessive wires, tube monitors, slow-moving ships, and Sigourney Weaver dressed, basically, as Sally Ride.  Any prequel is going to sort of detract further from our own imaginations within the framework of the series.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 28, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
Based on many of the same reasons RC has detailed, I pretty much feel like Aliens is more reboot than sequel. The extended version certainly has all the hallmarks of a complete reboot. The nod to the discovery of the space jockey ship by Newt's parents, the initial "infection," and so on.

It's a weird franchise. It's sort of soft-rebooted with each movie. And always in the wrong direction. Aliens blinded us simply because it was an action movie done well in a decade of similar action movies.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 28, 2011, 04:31:25 PM
Funny, Cass. I watched Aliens last night. (Well, the first half anyway. I started to doze off right around the time Bishop heads out to get the other drop ship from the Sulaco.)

All right, a confession: I was a huge Alien geek as a teenager and the lead up to Alien3 was one of the defining eras of my youth. For years, I was an apologist for that movie until Missus RC and I ran across it on cable a few years ago. The scales fell from my eyes, so to speak. It's terrible. Pretty, but with a plot structure drafted up by a committee filled with twelve year olds, a monkey, and kitchen appliances.

I've recommended "The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made" by David Hughes here before, but let me mention it again as it painstakingly details the development clusterfuck that led up to Alien3 and basically killed what likely could have been a very lucrative franchise. No less than ten writers (including William Gibson) worked on at least six drafts of this thing.

The chapter on Alien3 also gives a good bit of backstory on the first two movies including the bombshell that Ridley Scott was never approached to do Alien 2 even though he'd expressed interest in doing so. (The first third of the book might as well be subtitled "The Fall of Dan O'Bannon" as it explores both his involvement in a failed Dune project from the 1970s as well as his mistreatment in the development of the original Alien.)

Anyway, this information is probably available on the internet in greater detail. It was also written about ad nauseum in Starlog magazine in the early 80s though that shit is hard to come by.

Okay, so O'Bannon and John Carpenter went to film school at USC together and ended up making a weird sci-fi comedy called Dark Star that was part thesis project and part commission. A Dark Star subplot bears a striking resemblance to that of Alien. Both films deal with a monster loose on a ship. O'Bannon and Carpenter argued over a director credit. (O'Bannon wanted a shared director credit. Caprenter refused.) They also argued over tone. O'Bannon was pissed that the script got turned into a comedy. They parted ways, never speaking again apparently.

O'Bannon developed the monster loose on a ship idea into an early draft of Alien and pitched it all over Hollywood as "Jaws in Space." Nobody bit until Star Wars came out making everyone want a sci-fi project. The script got picked up by a small company that was funded by Fox and rewritten drastically, much to the chagrin of O'Bannon.

H.R. Giger was hired to create the alien because of his previous working relationship with O'Bannon on the aforementioned failed Dune project. Ridley Scott got tapped to direct and he, Giger, and producer Walter Hill took Alien in the direction it eventually went, even having O'Bannon barred from the set during shooting.

Scott insisted the Alien came from a "sophisticated culture" and a scene from the final script (and maybe even O'Bannon's draft, though I'd have to check that nugget of info.) that was never shot is rather telling.

When Kane finds the eggs, there was supposed to be a hieroglyphic type of art etched into the wall near the entrance to the "egg room." I've included it below for you to see, but it basically illustrates the Alien lifecycle. The kicker is that both Scott and Giger claimed that it was the Aliens not the Space Jockeys who carved the heiroglyphic. (And maybe O'Bannon too. Now I'll spend the afternoon digging up old 'O'Bannon interviews.)

(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.chron.com%2Fouttakes%2FAlien%2520Hieroglyphics.jpg&hash=b7be2d3e010d3041a4ace13e58313c9c)

Anyway, it's all a far cry from where Cameron eventually took it.  Cameron by the way had full creative control of Aliens. Fresh off The Terminator, Fox basically gave Cameron $20 million and said, "Call us when the movie is done." Fox was lukewarm on a sequel, and made it as an afterthought because they were flush with all that Star Wars trilogy cash. The only story demands they gave him were "Ripley and Soldiers." Having heavily researched platoon dynamics for Rambo: First Blood Part II (which he co-wrote), Cameron was all over it, and the Alien franchise became what it is.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 28, 2011, 05:47:42 PM
Interesting that he called it "Jaws in Space" because I was about to comment on how it's more like a slasher movie than sci-fi: isolated people get knocked off one-by-one by an unknowable monster, hero girl survives in the end.  Blah blah.  I'm actually getting a little excited now to watch Aliens again. 

One thing that bothers me, and I guess it doesn't really matter though, since no one planned it to be this way, is that it;s later explained that the aliens borrow the host DNA, right?  So is the alien in Alien later ret-conned to be part space jockey or part human (from Kane)?

And one other point: I thought for 1979 the effects were still fantastic.  If you shot the exact same movie with today's cameras I don't think anything would look that dated, campy, or cheap.  Especially the scenes when they're off the ship and when Kane breaks through the mist.  The only times you notice are some of the full-body alien shots when you can tell its some guy in a suit, but you can also tell that they tried really hard to hide that with the edits.  I say it makes it onto the top 20 list easily.  I never doubted that it would, but now maybe it moves up a few spots in my mind. 
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 28, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Interesting that he called it "Jaws in Space" because I was about to comment on how it's more like a slasher movie than sci-fi: isolated people get knocked off one-by-one by an unknowable monster, hero girl survives in the end.  Blah blah.  

That was actually the complaint of contemporary sci-fi fans when it came out. Alien was the first major sci-fi film to be released in the wake of Star Wars. (Well, there was Star Trek: the Motion Picture, but fans kind of knew what they were getting there.) There was a lot of hype for the movie. What the alien looked like was a well kept (and well publicized) secret. Sci-fi fans were seriously stoked.

And ultimately disappointed when they basically got a remake of the 1950s schlock, It! The Terror From Beyond Space, albeit one with exceptional art direction and design. Everybody was expecting serious sci-fi and what they got was, along with Halloween, the kick-off of the slasher craze.

I'm not trying to demean it. I like Alien a lot. I may even think it's the best of the series. However, the feelings most sci-fi fans in 1979 (as well as my feelings in 2011) can be summed up by a David Cronenberg quote. When asked about the film he said, "It had the potential to be incredibly complex and exciting and it chose the least strand that it could follow. It finally opted for the 'monster chases girl' strand."

EDIT: The Cronenberg Quote is taken from James Marriott's "Horror Films," part of the Virgin Film Series of books. It's got a great chapter on Alien as well as other "canonical" horror movies.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 28, 2011, 06:40:48 PM
Hmm.  How many complex strands does David Cronenberg think Rob "There's no bed in my bedroom but there is" Pattison can hold onto?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 30, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
Got into Aliens last night.  Another classic!  But the marines are way over the top up until the end when our favorites are redeemed and turn into semi-heroes.  Bill Paxton is annoying as hell all throughout, though.  I was reminded of Plinkett's Star Trek review thoughout though...even in the 80s everything was HYPERIZED!!!!  Raptor aliens, queens, more face-huggers than you can throw a stick at, an even more self-destructier self-destruction sequence, on and on.  But the action is still terrific.  Ripley's transformation into a futuristic, female John McLane is great, too. 

Somehow I forgot Paul Reiser was in this as the company man.  Very annoying and a curious casting choice, if you ask me.  "Hey, can we get an up-and-coming New York comic who is kind of a watered down Woody Allen to play our scheming Company liason?  And can you make him dress like a fly-fisherman?  Terrific." 

Again, though, we barely encounter any "sci-fi" elements.  They're on a terra-forming station, but that has almost nothing to do with the plot other than that it is primed to explode and has a lot of tubes.  We don't even get some real moral challenges like with Ash's sabotage, just mayhem.  Ah, well. 

Should I even watch Alien3?  I've never seen it or Resurrection.  Actually I feel more like moving on to T2 right away so I can continue a little Cameron-capade. 
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 30, 2011, 04:54:16 PM
I would say at least start Alien3. Even if as nothing more than an experiment to see how you react. You'll see the potential and be awestruck as it slowly deteriorates into chaos.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 30, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
Alien 3 is watchable, in my opinion. It's bad...but sort of has to be done to cap off the series.

And I bet you'll like Resurrection. Here's the trick to that movie -- pretend it's not part of the Alien franchise but, instead, is a sort of late-era Mel Brooks parody. If you go into it with that attitude, you'll laugh your ass off and shake your head the whole time.

I'm loving this thread, by the way.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 30, 2011, 07:00:34 PM
Nacho's right. Messy writing aside, Alien3 does round out Ripley's story.

Resurrection makes my soul hurt. It was Joss Whedon's first writing gig, and apparently it makes his soul hurt too.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 30, 2011, 07:20:36 PM
all right I'll give it a try...also interested because it was Fincher's first big movie, right?  But not right now.  I need a little buffer in there...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 30, 2011, 07:23:17 PM
Yeah, it was Fincher's first feature after years of commercials and music videos. He got thrown into the fire at the last minute.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on January 30, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
also reading about the trivia on imdb for Aliens...it sounds insane!  you either loved Cameron or hated him at that point, i guess.  Costumes done from memory, firing actors, music had to be done in three weeks, final edit wasn't ready until a week before release....for a seat of your pants production it turned out pretty damn good. 
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 31, 2011, 11:05:51 AM
I'll have to look into that. Aliens in the movie I know the least about the making of. I thought that was because it was the smoothest production of the bunch, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

I do know that Cameron was more gung ho about an Alien sequel than Fox wasM However, since he was the up and coming, hot, wunderkind director, they wanted to sign him to a multi-deal contract before anybody else did.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 31, 2011, 11:09:20 AM
music had to be done in three weeks

You mean the music they stole from Star Trek II? The whole movie is Khan's Theme.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 28, 2011, 11:08:34 PM
I guess this is our Prometheus thread right?

Below is a link to what claims to be a spoiler filled synopsis of the entire film. I haven't read it because I'm kind of excited about this movie. Though apparently it's definitely a prequel to Alien.

http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287 (http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287)

A blurry bootleg of the trailer is making the rounds, but it's so incomprehensible that I'm not going to bother posting it. I'll wait for the official version.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on November 29, 2011, 07:52:39 AM
Oh god...let's hope that's fake. Though I'm prepared for this movie to be horrible anyway.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 29, 2011, 08:08:10 AM
Is the Predalien back?

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on November 29, 2011, 08:26:53 AM
No. Earth was made by aliens (not the Aliens), they find the alien fortress in the Sahara with a Stargate star maps. They make a ship. They find the home planet and they go Resident Evil on each other, pissing off the creator-aliens and eventually turning themselves into the Aliens and going through a wormhole to Earth millions of years ago....and...becoming...the first...Aliens...and....

 this movie needs sam neill
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 29, 2011, 08:35:18 AM
So it's Event Horizon/Sunshine with a Stargate and Aliens.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on November 29, 2011, 10:56:05 AM
Yeah.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 19, 2011, 03:10:37 PM
Official trailer premiere on Thursday. My excitement level for this movie shames me.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 22, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
I'm officially really excited.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on December 24, 2011, 03:25:52 AM
International trailer.
 
http://www.filmweb.no/trailere/article140727.ece (http://www.filmweb.no/trailere/article140727.ece)

I'm soooooooooooooo friggin' jazzed for this.

Flashback!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 24, 2011, 04:50:22 PM
Not a bad reminder to keep my expectations in check.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 03, 2012, 08:34:22 AM
I'm going to approach this the same way I approached Alien 4 -- total blackout, avoid all previews, go into it expecting it to be slightly worse than Return of the Killer Tomatoes.

Which is why I really enjoyed part four!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 28, 2012, 11:58:02 PM
The viral marketing has started. This video is awesome....

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on February 29, 2012, 07:39:46 AM
God... How about they just fucking do a Weyland-Yutani origin movie and stop having it be this insanely distracting nerdgasm sub-plot in every Alien spin-off film?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Cassander on March 01, 2012, 04:45:36 AM
ah, that's awesome. Especially since I imagine Pearce rehearsing for about 8 months in front of the mirror for a "viral" video. 

And because trade shows in the future will be held inside Cowboys Stadium.

So this movie is going to be about aliens with short term memory loss or something?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 01, 2012, 11:18:18 PM
TED is not a trade show.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 02, 2012, 07:53:06 AM
I have a TED app that I watch every day. The presentations are never like that...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 04, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
They will be in 11 years!!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 17, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
I know. I know. Keep my expectations in check, but... but... *SPLOOGE*

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 18, 2012, 01:35:34 AM
Fuck it. I'm sold.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 19, 2012, 12:56:17 PM
Been sleeping well? Well, you can quit that shit.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 19, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
Yeah, okay... Let's plan the date!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 19, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
June 8th!


I guess this is our Prometheus thread right?

Below is a link to what claims to be a spoiler filled synopsis of the entire film. I haven't read it because I'm kind of excited about this movie. Though apparently it's definitely a prequel to Alien.

http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287 (http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287)


So I finally broke down and read this. Judging from the trailers, it seems this synopsis could be the real deal, no?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 19, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
I hope not!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 19, 2012, 08:48:17 PM
I had no intention of seeing this, but that's all changed now!

Count me in!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 19, 2012, 09:09:06 PM
I had no intention of seeing this, but that's all changed now!

Count me in!

Let's do opening weekend like retards.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 20, 2012, 08:41:10 AM
 :sissies:
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 21, 2012, 02:36:37 PM
Yes.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 21, 2012, 08:30:38 PM
Probably a better story than the last three movies.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 06, 2012, 11:26:58 AM
James Cameron's 1987 response to angry ALIEN fans.

www.alienscollection.com/jamescameron.html
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 17, 2012, 10:19:17 AM
The viral campaign for Prometheus is creepy cool.

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on April 17, 2012, 10:24:42 AM
I just gave the whole franchise a pass on the front page. I've decided that I'm excited about Prometheus.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 17, 2012, 10:27:23 AM
I have your article up for reading once I get deep into the day's procrastination.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on April 17, 2012, 11:05:58 AM
I have an article programmed for every day this week! I've decided to do that instead of watching six hours of Netflix every day at work.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 01, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
Have I been Johnny Spoiler of late, or what?

This is the new three minute long international trailer, and while I'm not sure it gives anything away there's a lot of new footage including some of the "creature" effects. Though I still don't know what the hell they find out there on the Space Jockey's ship, I felt like I had seen a bit too much after I watched this.

You've been warned.

All that said... Prometheus looks pretty solid.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on May 01, 2012, 05:22:13 PM
Your warning made me not watch it. They need to take a viral break.

But, of course, then you and I complain about it when they do.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 06, 2012, 01:20:46 PM
Nacho and I are doing this on Monday. I've lowered my expectations considerably for Prometheus as they've over-hyped the shit out of it. I'm expecting it to be pretty and empty at best.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 06, 2012, 01:36:14 PM
Nacho and I are doing this on Monday. I've lowered my expectations considerably for Prometheus as they've over-hyped the shit out of it. I'm expecting it to be pretty and empty at best.

Since it leaked to the pirate boards on Monday, that's a pretty tell-tale sign that it sucks balls. Though I'm avoiding the threads.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 06, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Well, it did get an early release overseas which may explain the early pirating.

But yeah, it seems like they let the hype machine get way out of control.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 06, 2012, 03:07:23 PM
It's been out of control for nine months.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 06, 2012, 04:19:26 PM
I think it shows that there's the market for a good Alien movie if they'd bother to make one.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 06, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
I think it shows that there's the market for a good Alien movie if they'd bother to make one.

Which, if we're honest with ourselves, they haven't done since the first one.

I mean, we all love Aliens. But, really. It's the Alien Resurrection of its era. Stereotypes, inappropriate humor, over the top villains, predictable double-crosses, extreme yet oddly emotionally-detached violence, superhuman feats of endurance, convenient escapes...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 09, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
Nacho and I are doing this on Monday. I've lowered my expectations considerably for Prometheus as they've over-hyped the shit out of it. I'm expecting it to be pretty and empty at best.

An opportunity to see Prometheus presented itself and I went. I think it'll be worth talking about more after other folks have seen it, so I'll give you the three spoiler-free thoughts that popped into my head while watching it.

1.) They really want to try and go somewhere new here, but they've teased everybody with a movie set in the Alien universe so they inevitably have to come back to Alien-esque imagery and logic.

2.) Charlize Theron might be the most attractive human being in the world.

3.) Hardcore Alien fans are going to fall all over themselves apologizing for this movie before realizing it's really no better than Alien3.

I'll watch it again on Monday if Nacho and Reggie want to, mostly to see if I can figure out all the weird lapses in logic and pacing.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: monkey! on June 09, 2012, 01:10:20 AM
Worth a cinema ticket then, RC?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 09, 2012, 01:19:31 AM
It's very pretty and, uh, Charlize Theron.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: monkey! on June 09, 2012, 01:30:04 AM
And new-Magneto?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 09, 2012, 09:16:29 AM
He's pretty good. There's some stunning visuals. It's not bad as much as just stupid.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 09, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
I figured out the perfect metaphor for this movie:

It's like the most beautiful super model in the world who can't spell her own name.

Pretty but empty. Self fulfilling prophecy?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on June 09, 2012, 12:11:17 PM
I'm still down for it.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 09, 2012, 01:08:40 PM
See...that talks me out of it.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 09, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
It sort of stupid in a good way. Really a victim of its own hype.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 25, 2012, 12:19:49 PM
This fan made video making the rounds today really convinced me to not bother with Prometheus... Does this sum up the movie, RC?

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 26, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
Except that was totally awesome.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 30, 2012, 11:55:24 AM
I think the greatest contribution Prometheus made to the franchise was inspiring all of these fan videos...

!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 30, 2012, 11:45:06 PM
Have you watched it yet?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2012, 07:43:22 AM
Nope! Tee-hee.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on August 01, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
Guess I'd better get it in before part two, right? If only so I can understand all the people joking about "the albino chorus line."

(PS: Part two confirmed today.)
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 10, 2012, 11:47:10 PM
So the first 14 minutes are awesome. Stargate opening. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. Half naked women. The remarkable, multi-talented, 1000 faces of Idris Elba...

How can this movie go wrong?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 10, 2012, 11:54:26 PM
Oh, then, it all goes wrong.

"So you're discounting three centuries of Darwinism!"

*everyone laughs*

Um...Wait, is Darwin a deity? I think, 100 years from now, with irrefutable proof of alien whatevers, it's okay to, you know, be a little open minded.

The whole idea that most of the crew of this ship whose mission is to find our god-creators are doubters who think the mission is stupid kind of...hmmm... I don't know. Like, why sign up for that? When you get back from this mission, everything you know will be ancient history. You will sacrifice everything.

Whatever! Where do I sign?!?!

Decades later: You're all stupid. This is stupid. You're a toad. I'm here for the paycheck which, for all I know, is as good as Confederate dollars.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 10, 2012, 11:57:11 PM
Also, there's the eternal Star Trek problem here where the prequel's technology is more advanced than the original. So, 100 years later, we're in a dark ages or something?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:00:36 AM
"Scan this structure. I want to know if it's natural or not."

Um...you mean the hollow structure with doors and windows? So...here's a guess...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
42 minutes. I've sort of lost track of everything now. I like how they're all mad at the girl compromising the mission because she got caught by the unexpected storm...but all the other INSANE SHIT done up till this point goes without comment.

Did you drop that number 2 pencil? YOU COMPROMISED THE MISSION!!! I'm going to go have sex with my own grandmother, who's an alien, after I awaken the eternal beast of horror and touch every single button I see.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
So they just took a 2000 year old mummified head and woke it up by "tricking the nervous system to think it's still alive."

Why am I watching this?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:20:46 AM
I like how W-Y Corp is hot, hot, hot for this alien shit...like they always are...except this is the prequel, so it makes no sense. We need a prequel for the prequel.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:26:47 AM
Show don't tell.

Do they teach you that in film school, RC?

Maybe we can get Ridley Scott in your class, if so.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 12:31:18 AM
Oh my god. I'm going to bed. I'll finish the second half of this horribly stupid film tomorrow morning. If I'm especially lucky, I'll die in my sleep.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 08:18:59 AM
I love how the helmets switch from plastic to glass depending on what effects are needed. Now they're melty plastic! Now they shatter dramatically like rock candy!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 08:24:26 AM
Did they start a second movie set somewhere else with entirely different characters? I think so.

Oh, there, the two movies just came together with Idris Elba correctly guessing the situation that he can't possibly know because he's been on the ship the whole time. Oh, but it turns out that he Knows More Than He Should... Which is where we get back to the prequel needing a prequel, I guess.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 11, 2012, 08:50:34 AM
Right. I just watched a two hour movie that was only about how the big, impressive scene in Alien was set up. Except...not really. Did the alien move the Engineer back to his chair? Is this an alternate history now? Or is all this completely unrelated to the planet in the first two movies?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 11, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
THEY TOOK OFF THEIR FUCKING HELMETS ON AN ALIEN PLANET!!!!!

After that it was all I do to keep from assaulting the projectionist.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on September 12, 2012, 07:34:27 AM
THEY TOOK OFF THEIR FUCKING HELMETS ON AN ALIEN PLANET!!!!!

After that it was all I do to keep from assaulting the projectionist.

Oh, well, we've seen that in just about every sci-fi movie and show. The atmosphere readings were clear. I didn't question that for a moment. Hell, Arthur C. Clark had them do it in 2010.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on December 18, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
Jesus...this is more damning than funny.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 18, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
I can't watch it. Just thinking about Prometheus makes me angry.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on December 18, 2012, 03:46:05 PM
I can't watch it. Just think about Prometheus makes me angry.

Honest Trailers feels the same way I guess. I didn't even smile. The whole thing was like, ouch, daaamnn...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on January 07, 2013, 04:58:27 PM
Embittered hatred of Prometheus continues with Everything Wrong in Prometheus in Under 4 Minutes.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 07, 2013, 06:20:33 PM
That was soooo satisfying.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 28, 2013, 01:46:50 PM
William Gibson posted his script for Alien 3 at:
http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/alien3/gibson.htm

Hasn't that been doing the rounds for years, though? Or was that another script...? I know there are, like, 20 different scripts.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 01, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
Tons of behind-the-scenes pics from the original Alien. I've wasted the morning here.

https://imgur.com/a/VWsI3 (https://imgur.com/a/VWsI3)
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 02, 2015, 12:52:46 PM
And instead we're getting Prometheus 2?! Click through because *geekgasm*.

Quote
Neill Blomkamp's Secret Alien Movie Looks So Good We're Furious

http://io9.com/neill-blomkamps-secret-alien-movie-looks-so-good-were-f-1677082116 (http://io9.com/neill-blomkamps-secret-alien-movie-looks-so-good-were-f-1677082116)
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 18, 2015, 09:10:28 PM
And instead we're getting Prometheus 2?! Click through because *geekgasm*.

Quote
Neill Blomkamp's Secret Alien Movie Looks So Good We're Furious

http://io9.com/neill-blomkamps-secret-alien-movie-looks-so-good-were-f-1677082116 (http://io9.com/neill-blomkamps-secret-alien-movie-looks-so-good-were-f-1677082116)


Blomkamp's Alien sequel is a go.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/ (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/)

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New ‘Alien’ Movie Confirmed with Director Neill Blomkamp

0th Century Fox has closed a deal with director Neill Blomkamp to develop a new “Alien” movie.

Sources say the untitled sci-fi project is a separate from the “Prometheus” sequel, which Fox is still making with Ridley Scott.

Blomkamp, who directed “District 9″ and the upcoming Sony feature “Chappie,” had been teasing the project in recent months but said the movie had been scrapped. It was supposed to star “Alien” veteran Sigourney Weaver.

But on Wednesday Blomkamp confirmed the new Alien movie was “officially” back on at Fox.

“So I think this is officially my next film,” he confirmed on Instagram.

It’s unclear whether Scott or Weaver are attached to the tentpole.

Scott will, however, produce the film through his Scott Free banner.

“Prometheus,” also distributed by Fox, was “loosely based” on the Alien franchise and earned over $400 million worldwide. But the 3D movie opened to mixed reviews and Fox thinks Blomkamp, who last directed “Elysium,” can take the franchise to the next level.

The South African-born filmmaker is repped by WME.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on February 19, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
Sadly, from what I've been reading, despite the above, his movie will be set in the Prometheus universe. io9 quotes him as saying "the movie is set after the events in Prometheus 2."

So... Blah.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 19, 2015, 07:55:22 PM
Nobody wants Prometheus 2 if they can have a reboot Aliens sequel. Nobody.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2015, 08:35:45 AM
I do! I want to see if they resolve the inner spiritual dilemma they spent two hours building using characters I can't even picture or recall a single line of dialog from!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2015, 12:36:55 PM
I almost never get the urge to have kids these days... except when I read something like this.

http://www.rogerebert.com/mzs/watching-aliens-for-the-first-time-again-with-a-bunch-of-kids (http://www.rogerebert.com/mzs/watching-aliens-for-the-first-time-again-with-a-bunch-of-kids)

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NOTES ON WATCHING "ALIENS" FOR THE FIRST TIME AGAIN, WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS

For his 11th birthday, my son asked if he could have a slumber party. He invited seven other fifth-grade boys. They played video games for a couple of hours, ate pizza, then said they wanted to watch a movie. They'd seen every comic book movie multiple times. Seen all the Indiana Jones films. Star Wars. Anything with a hobbit in it. The usual 11-year old boy options, circa 2015, weren't going to work.

So I suggested "Aliens," thinking, "Well, it's exciting, and even if they haven't see the first one, the movie tells the story well enough that you won't be confused about who Ripley is and what's at stake for her."

They agreed (some of them had seen the first one anyway, and nearly all had seen at least one film with a xenomorph in it) and so we watched it together. And as we watched, I realized again that while unfortunately you can't see a great movie again for the first time, the next-best thing is to show it to people who've never seen it.

My first time with James Cameron's sci-fi war movie was a great filmgoing experience. I saw "Aliens" at the NorthPark 1 and 2 theater at NorthPark Mall in my hometown of Dallas, with a high school classmate who was, at that time, my regular action movie-watching buddy: Gabe Michaels. We drove to NorthPark to catch the 11 a.m. show on opening day and got in line a couple of hours early. We'd already drunk a bit of soda beforehand and I think we might have downed some more while standing in line. When we got into the theater, they seated us immediately and there was only one preview, for "The Fly," and then wham, they started the movie. Neither Gabe nor I nor anyone else who'd been standing in that line wanted to get up from our seats and answer nature's call, even though we all pretty desperately had to; there was a lot of muttering and shifting in seats, quite a few "grin and bear it" expressions.

If you've seen the film, you know there are no aliens to speak of for the first hour, then suddenly there are aliens all over the place, coming out of the walls and ceiling, drooling and shrieking and dragging Marines off into the darkness to be cocooned. It's one of the greatest releases of built-up tension in action film history. Throughout this sequence the audience was enthralled, screaming as the xenomorphs attacked, cheering as Ripley took control of the all-terrain vehicle to rescue the imperiled Colonial Marines. Then when the ATV crashed through the wall, the music stopped, and Hicks told her she'd blown the trans-axle and need to "ease down, Ripley, ease down," everyone collectively seemed to realize they were being given a breather, so at that point Gabe and I and probably a fifth of the audience rose from our seats and headed for the bathrooms: fast-walking, some running.

Guys at the urinals were peeing as fast as they could because they didn't want to miss another minute of "Aliens." You'd have thought somebody was timing them. Like this was the Olympic qualifying round for the bladder evacuation team. But they weren't going fast enough to suit a guy standing near the front door of men's room. He yelled,  "Goddammit! All of you, piss faster!"

And that's when I knew "Aliens" was going to be a hit.

Anyway, the slumber party: all kids seemed to agree that "Aliens" was a good suggestion because even though it had aliens in it, it wasn't just trying to scare you, like the first "Alien." "It's basically an action movie, that's what I've heard," one of my son's friends said. Another seemed just a little bit scared, maybe, and kept suggesting other viewing options, including "Guardians of the Galaxy," "Dr. Who," and (for some reason) "Saturday Night Live."

We watched "Aliens" anyway. It went over well. The biggest challenge was dissuading kids from trying to predict every single thing that was going to happen. This is a generation of talkers. They have to comment on everything. No thought can go unexpressed. Maybe this was true when I was a kid as well (I honestly don't remember), but rather than endlessly correct them I decided to just roll with it, exercising my slumber party guardian veto power during scenes that I felt pretty sure would enthrall them if they would just shut up for five minutes (I was rarely proved wrong in my guesses). But it was a sharp crowd, and for the most part the movie went over quite well, for an analog-era science fiction spectacular that's turning 30 next year.

One boy said that Ripley in her hyper sleep chamber looked like Sleeping Beauty. As this was an intentional reference on writer-director James Cameron's part (there's a Snow White reference an hour later) this seemed like a promising note on which to begin the screening.  "I like the way this looks," one said. "It's futuristic but it's old school. It's almost steampunk." "This is like Team Fortress 2," another remarked. "Dude, shut up, this was made like 20 years before Team Fortress 2," said the kid next to him. "This is, like, every science fiction movie ever made," another said, as Ripley operated the power loader for the first time.

"This movie has so many cliches in it," a boy said when Colonial Marines disembarked the drop ship and made their way through rainy darkness to enter the alien-infested colony. My son told him, "This movie was made in 1986. It invented all the cliches." Another of his friends was impressed by the "personal data transmitters" implanted in the colonists—impressed that someone had thought of that back in 1986.

The first big jump of the night was the face hugger in the tank trying to "kiss" the evil yuppie Burke. All eight kids flipped out. One screamed. The second big jump of the night was the "please kill me" woman. Half the boys watched her through the cracks between their fingers.

They liked Ripley, Hicks, Frost, Apone, Bishop the android, and even Hudson, whose defeatism irritated them so much that I think they would've hated him if he weren't so funny. "Somebody shoot that guy," one said. Frost insisting that "it doesn't matter" when the "poontang" is Arcturian confused a couple of kids. "It means he's bisexual," one explained.

The cigar-chewing Sgt. Apone's oddly musical phrase "assholes and elbows" got the biggest laugh of the evening; two hours and twenty minutes later, the kids were quoting it as they brushed their teeth. Frost's quip, "What are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?" made my son laugh for nearly a full minute. 

During the final alien assault (where they come through the ceiling panels!) a boy half-hidden under a blanket said, "I would commit suicide if I were in this position."

Vasquez was the MVP of the movie. I think all eight boys might have a little bit of a crush on her. When she pinned a xenomorph to a wall with her combat boot and blew its brains out, one exclaimed his delight with profanity, then apologized to me for it. Another boy said Vasquez reminded him of "this lady who works at Costco." He didn't say which Costco. There was a wave of applause for Lt. Gorman and Vasquez holding hands as they blew themselves up. ("She died like a boss," one said.)

There was general agreement amongst the boys that they would like to see a separate film of Newt surviving for weeks on the planet full of aliens. The final duel between the queen mother alien and Ripley in her power loader was a big hit. The boys applauded both combatants' tactics, especially Ripley blocking the queen's tongue-mouth jabs with her blowtorch. ("This is like boxing, except it's slower and they're both wearing armor.")

At bedtime there was some discussion of whether an army of predators could beat an army of aliens. The issue was never resolved. The boys had trouble settling down because every few minutes somebody would plant a palm on somebody's face or grab a toe. At one point, post-screening discussion was hijacked by a science minded boy  describing his idea for an "acid-proof Colonial Marine uniform."

"There could be face huggers hiding under the couch right now," one said after a while. There was laughter at this. Then silence. Then stray nervous chuckles. Then a longer silence. 

The boy who earlier had suggested alternatives to "Aliens" asked the first boy to "just shut up about the face huggers."

I very rarely wish I could be 11 again, but for these kids, I'm making an exception. 
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 02, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
You can come to my son's 11 year old sleepover in November.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 04, 2015, 10:15:56 AM
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 16, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Vague plot of the Prometheus sequel, now titled Alien: Covenant.

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Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on November 16, 2015, 06:36:18 PM
 :fuckyou:
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 17, 2015, 10:40:09 AM
I'll watch it in the theater. I'm weak.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 20, 2016, 10:40:21 PM
In the wake of Prometheus and the whole nostalgia reboot craze, I think we're all just tired out by Alien: Prequel Sequel Butt Squeeze or whatever the new Alien movie is going to be called. I've vaguely kept up with production news just because I'm a lemming Alien fan. The fact that Rapace wasn't returning was something of a non-news yet news item for a bit once they said they were going ahead with a sequel. I'm not saying the fact that she's back makes me excited for this after the shitshow that was Prometheus, I'm just saying at least we'll have continuity.

And I think it's sad that at this point simple continuity is enough to satisfy me.

http://deadline.com/2016/06/noomi-rapace-alien-covenant-reprises-role-1201776038/

Quote
Noomi Rapace Joins ‘Alien: Covenant’

EXCLUSIVE: Even though Noomi Rapace emerged from Prometheus as one of the few survivors and the one who seemed most to want to follow the adventure forward with Michael Fassbender’s character, it was long reported she would not be back to reprise her role as Elizabeth Shaw in Ridley Scott’s next installment Alien: Covenant. Maybe that has changed.

Sources say Rapace is in Australia and on the set to shoot weeks worth of scenes in Scott’s film, which brings back Fassbender’s robot character and has a cast that includes Katherine Waterston, Billy Crudup, Danny McBride and Demian Bichir. Info is on lockdown, so we’ll have to wait for the film to be released August 4, 2017, by Fox to see how it all worked out.

Rapace is repped by CAA and Magnolia Entertainment.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 21, 2016, 08:24:01 AM
Everyone was tired of the Alien franchise when Alien 3 came out.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 25, 2016, 09:58:05 AM
First 20th Century Fox Exec: "So, Prometheus sort of made a bunch of money because we hoodwinked the audience into thinking they were getting an Alien movie when they really got a big fat Ridley Scott turd with a plot that even I can't remember. Think we can do that again? It'd be great to not have to build new sets."

Second 20th Century Fox Exec: "Nah, let's just soft reboot the whole thing by calling it a sequel when it's really just a rehash/mash-up of the first two movies everybody loves. like they did with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Remember when we had the deal to distribute Star Wars?

First 20th Century Fox Exec: "Yeah. Those were good times."

*Snorts cocaine off hooker's ass before killing her*

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 23, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
The Last Supper, a "prologue" to Alien: Covenant. I haven't watched this yet even though 20th Century Fox has inundated m with emails, advertisements and virtual reacharounds to make sure i know it's out there.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on February 24, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2017, 12:11:25 PM
That they're selling this so hard right now makes me think it must be terrible. I'll of course go see it.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
So... The entire franchise and every other franchise and every actor it touches has been nothing but horrible since 1993. Why are you still wondering if this will be bad? You're basically at a junction of a nearly-full sewer pipe and pausing to ask if the next section (from which all the sewage is flowing) will be horrible.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2017, 02:50:40 PM
*SOB*
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Tough love by Nacho Sasha!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2017, 03:14:39 PM
I know we've discussed it before, but the lead up to Alien3 was akin to a religious experience for me. I apologized for that movie for years.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2017, 04:35:41 PM
I know we've discussed it before, but the lead up to Alien3 was akin to a religious experience for me. I apologized for that movie for years.


There's an article here about third movies in a franchise. Alien, Terminator, and Star Trek all made the same mistake -- they topped themselves in the sequels. They also sort of ended the franchise in those sequels. Aliens had the perfect ending. The queen is destroyed and LV-426 is nukes itself. Where do you go from there? In a way, Alien 3 did go in the right direction -- it decided to explore the Weyland-Yutani obsession with the Alien. But then you're dealing with a political corporate drama and you're under the shadow of Aliens.

Terminator 2 eliminates the threat and changes the future, so Terminator 3 devolves into a desperate need to explain how the future wasn't actually changed.

Star Trek... Well, the Star Trek movies are STILL trying to escape the shadow of Wrath of Khan. We're, what, ten movies and 30 years later and still can't get away from Khan. Star Trek 3 and 4 are direct sequels to Star Trek 2 and every other villain in the universe since has become Khan.

(I'm not counting Jedi as a third because I feel like it was intended to be the end of the story, really, and occasionally pretend that's the case.)
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 10, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
That they're selling this so hard right now makes me think it must be terrible. I'll of course go see it.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2017, 11:21:07 AM
Jesus. Franchise fatigue just from trailers.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 10, 2017, 11:28:47 AM
It all reeks of "We're trying because this thing is a real turd."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2017, 11:44:50 AM
It all reeks of "We're trying because this thing is a real turd."

I was going to go back and quote my dozens of past comments in this thread about how the franchise has been a turd since 1993 but I just couldn't be bothered.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 10, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
Here...

So... The entire franchise and every other franchise and every actor it touches has been nothing but horrible since 1993. Why are you still wondering if this will be bad? You're basically at a junction of a nearly-full sewer pipe and pausing to ask if the next section (from which all the sewage is flowing) will be horrible.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
Thanks. Could you do me a favor and just repost that every time this thread moves over to a new page until the day you die?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 10, 2017, 12:09:25 PM
Done.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 27, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
I never want to watch Prometheus again and it seems the producers of the Alien franchise feel the same so they're wrapping up that story in this little five minute piece.

Unless of course this is just a truncated version of the first half hour of this thing I have to sit thorugh in a few weeks.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on April 27, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
 snorebot!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 16, 2017, 07:53:49 AM
I'm obsessed with Rick & Morty now after marathoning the entire series in three days. Their little Alien sell-out piece makes my cockles warm. (They do sell out shit like this all the time, usually making fun of whatever it is they've been given oodles of money to peddle.)

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 19, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
I snuck out and saw Alien: Covenant last night. It's better than it deserves to be even though it's pretty much a Force Awakens style reboot/remake of the first movie with some Prometheus apology scenes thrown in for good measure.

The movie is best enjoyed by convincing yourself you've never seen an Alien movie before and all this is new. (This is also the film's major problem. Everything is telegraphed from a million miles away because you've seen it before.) Based on my Prometheus experience, I expected it to be slow and nonsensical, but it's actually quite thrilling even if the human characters in these movies are still making some of the dumbest choices ever. The biggest problem is it takes too long to get to what we know is coming and once it gets there, it barrels through the "good stuff" too fast. What the Alien movies really need is a Mad Max: Fury Road style strip down. All style and action with very little plot and story. The Prometheus parts of the story doesn't bog it down but demystifying the Alien adds nothing. Well, almost nothing. (I won't spoil the big reveal, though it hasn't been a well kept secret.) Just characters trying to get from A to B being chased by Aliens is really all these movies need.

Technically, it might be the best Alien movie ever. Some reviews have bitched about the CGI alien, but the speed this thing moves is both physically believable and awesome to watch. It almost made the Alien scary again. Sets are great. Sci-fi is (mostly) believable. Performances are fun. Fassbender in particular chews the scenery is a super-satisifying way.

RC says check it out... as long as you're fully aware it's basically a modern day remake of the first film.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on May 19, 2017, 01:25:10 PM
And Danny McBride playing a serious role works? or is he playing a Kotto/Stanton mash-up?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 19, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
It works. And you're knowledge of him as fucking gonzo in everything else actually helps because his character sort of internalizes that. (He's the pilot.)
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on May 19, 2017, 01:35:11 PM
Man. I'm so burned after Prometheus I almost can't bring myself to believe you...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 19, 2017, 01:47:14 PM
Oh, this thing is miles better than Prometheus. If anything, it makes Prometheus look even worse (if that's possible) thought weirdly relies on a few Prometheus plot points when it's unnecessarily explaining itself. You feel like the producers realized they kind of fucked up and are trying to make it right.

Overall, the movie is quite well done, maybe the best after Alien and Aliens. Just don't expect anything mind-blowingly original. I don't know if hitting all the familiar beats really well qualifies as a success, but maybe that's all we can ask for at this point.

And the Alien is pretty cool when it finally shows up.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:26:43 AM
What's that? You want me to live blog Alien: Covenant? But... That sort of makes me feel like:

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Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:45:00 AM
Wait... Did I get the wrong movie? This opening sequence is every Turing-test android movie made in the last 15 years poured into 5 minutes so far...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:46:05 AM
Personally, I'd go full on ScarJo Ghost in the Shell if I were to design an android. I wouldn't make a fully grown gay man.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:47:29 AM
Oh god, yes! A colonist vessel with thousands of sleepers and embryos! That's a brilliant update! Alien buffet! All you can eat! Devour 1100 embryos and win a t-shirt!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
Mother's back! Instantly don't trust her. And since they have to be traveling FTL, the energy sales don't make sense. But that's fine.

Also very upset that the movie didn't open up on a Jones close-up.

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Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:53:23 AM
Good job, Mother.

Hey, some shit happened and it's going to blow us up. I'm totally going to just sit here now and wait for orders instead of take any sort of action to discharge my primary duty of not letting the ship get fucked up. *yawn*

Cue: Remaking the initial ship in danger sequence from Pitch Black.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 11:55:13 AM
Totally going to get that class action suit going against the maker of the stasis pods. "If bumped, interior of stasis pods will fill with a highly flammable gas."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
We're going to see this Hellraiser room again aren't we? What is it with this franchise and chains?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:13:34 PM
I like how we see catastrophic damage being done to the stasis pods and they just sort of handwave the "we lost 48 colonists" thing. Yeah, the ship got fucked, but we still had time to check all 2000 pods and 1100 embryos in the last 40 minutes to make a count. Anyway! It's not about the colonists! It;'s about us! And we have to drink BOURBON!

B-team caretaker crew in the house!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:14:40 PM
I would have enjoyed a bit of comedy, actually.

"How are the colonists?"

"The...? Oh no! I haven't checked! I was really busy putting out the motherfucking fire on deck 12."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Mother has some serious long range scanners. Please wait. Collating more data on a random unexplored planet than we actually have for the explored planet we're headed for.

Though making a totally uninformed decision based on the fact that nobody enjoys stasis is so Alien franchise! I love it!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:25:52 PM
Oh, okay, but we could have done without the long-winded scene saying it's "good judgement" to go off course to an alien planet in pursuit of a mysterious signal. Because...it isn't. At all. Ever.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:33:46 PM
"There's smooth water there so I'm going to land this spaceship...um...on it...because...I always land blindly ON FUCKING WATER because I think it's funny. Every one out of 500 landings, the water turns out to be an inch deep! Don't worry."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
"The eye of the storm is getting worse"? Was the script a collaborative project for a 3rd grade class?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:54:23 PM
Alien bugs going into your ear trope alert!

Also, they have super scanners and tons of tech but they don't run any sort of scan on the air/water/etc?

It's the Galaxy Quest air test!

"How do we know the air's breathable?"

*huff, huff* "Seems fine to me."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
So is this the same Engineer ship? Or did every Engineer ship just crash on a multitude of random planets?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 12:58:45 PM
Oh! Prometheus! Right. I think I've blocked that entire movie from my memory...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2017, 01:01:06 PM
I love it when you liveblog.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:09:37 PM
Love the new alien.

And I'm telling you, the guns are a total nod to Red Dwarf's bazzokoids!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:12:02 PM
So the alien gestation rate for a large egg laid by a facehugger is about 2-3 days. But for a microscopic egg, it's 5 minutes. Are we to believe that the aliens are devolving, Mr. Scott? Or is it just 2017?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:12:32 PM
OBI WAN!

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:14:00 PM
I don't like what Obi Wan has done to Jabba's palace.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
My name is David. I will now handwave all of Prometheus in 30 seconds.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
No one asks why David is living with 10,000 corpses surrounding his house.

#thatshouldhavebeenthefirstquestion
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2017, 01:18:25 PM
Not everybody is a good housekeeper.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
I love how Mother not only responds entirely in Star Trek gibberish but also takes a very long time to enunciate everything.

She also has no sense of danger or self preservation. I mean, the computer I'm typing on right now asks "are you sure you want to do that?" about simple shit.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
David's a great reminder of why Prometheus sucked. Thanks, movie!

So let me go ahead and fill in the holes here since no one's bothering to ask: Shaw and David piloted a ship of horrors to a calm, beautiful, inhabited planet. They unleashed aliens and then decided to burn up the entire population and move into their temple.

Or, at least, that's kind of the movie I wanted...
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
Ah! Flashback. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:32:59 PM
As the new aliens get bigger I like them less and less. They're more horror movie monkey ghosts.

Also -- Mother finally refuses to do something insane! But she gives up within seconds and obeys the command.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:33:59 PM
"That will cause catastrophic failure."

"Do it Mother!"

"I cannot comply -- "

"OMG DO IT!"

"Jeez, okay. Flying into mountain as ordered. *sigh*."
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
Time for a five minute day-drinking break!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
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Managed by a lunatic computer that's indifferent to your safety!

Full of pods that will burn you alive and cannot be opened in an emergency!

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Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:44:47 PM
We're about 10 minutes past the point where I would have shot David and ground him up as chum.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:48:27 PM
So...they had a second shuttle and, instead, endangered the entire ship by entering the atmosphere?

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:52:27 PM
I love crazy David. Waiting for him to start talking about attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:56:09 PM
I see you've found my diary. Do you enjoy my drawings? My jumpsuit is really tight.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! Android battle!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
I love the girl touching the casing of the plasma engine to steady herself as she gets reeled onto the shuttlecraft. So, um, Caution: Hot!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
Purely from a xenoarchaeological viewpoint, the damage being done in this movie is appalling.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:06:48 PM
"I took Mother offline. I would say that means we can do anything we want no matter how dangerous but Mother didn't care about that when she was online!"
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Shit! Those crewmembers we never got to know and forgot about are in danger!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:09:42 PM
Okay! So we're down to two crewmembers, right? Or are there more redshirts we've not seen for the past 90 minutes?
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
Daniels, you magnificent bitch!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
Oh, good job, Mother!
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:20:27 PM
Final analysis: Not bad. Just 100% unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2017, 02:21:18 PM
Final analysis: Not bad. Just 100% unnecessary.

Right? I said to somebody recently that my future relationship with the movie will be watching all the fun parts on YouTube.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2017, 02:35:59 PM
Final analysis: Not bad. Just 100% unnecessary.

Right? I said to somebody recently that my future relationship with the movie will be watching all the fun parts on YouTube.

I want a sit-com starring Mother and a lone human survivor on an out of control ship. Then, at the end of the season, it's revealed that the ship has been out of control only because Mother didn't care enough to stop it.

Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 09, 2017, 11:12:34 AM
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on August 09, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
Yep. That's 100% on target.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on June 06, 2018, 09:39:18 AM
So I came here to say that I re-watched Covenant and I really didn't like it the second time around, nor do I think it holds up.

But then I read the last few pages of this thread and I see that I thought all that the first time around as well.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 05, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
I just reread your live-blog of Covenant and literally laughed out loud in my office.
Title: Re: The Alien Franchise
Post by: nacho on March 07, 2019, 11:01:31 AM
I just reread your live-blog of Covenant and literally laughed out loud in my office.

Looking back myself, I'm alarmed that heavy day drinking started at 11am.