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Title: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on June 11, 2009, 04:39:14 PM
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Obama Writes Fourth Grader a Memorable Absence Note

By Michael A. Fletcher
GREEN BAY, Wisc. -- John Corpus let his 10-year-old daughter, Kennedy, skip her last day of fourth grade at Aldo Leopold Community School to attend a packed town hall meeting where she could see the president of the United States up close.

But things turned out to be more exciting than either one of them imagined.

First, President Obama called on Corpus to ask a question about his plans for health care reform. As he posed his query, he let drop that his daughter was skipping school to see the president.

Does she need a note? Obama asked.

Playing along, Corpus said he would take Obama up on the offer. To his surprise, Obama was serious.

"What's her name," Obama asked, reaching in his suit pocket for a pen. When Corpus answered "John," Obama repeated: "Her name?"

"Kennedy," Corpus replied.

"That's a cool name," Obama said, as he started to compose the missive.

"To Kennedy's teacher," read the note, written in black ink over the president's distinctive signature. "Please excuse Kennedy's absence.... she's with me."
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Post by: Nubbins on June 11, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
Obama does have quite the sense of humor.  Did you see him order Steven Colbert's head shaved on television the other night?  It was great.
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Post by: nacho on June 11, 2009, 05:22:11 PM
Actually, is there a youtube for that?  (He asks withgout searching because he's playing this shit: http://armorgames.com/play/2675/phage-wars  Also, somebody kill Tyson.)
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 11, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
After I kill you for leading me to that game.
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Post by: nacho on June 11, 2009, 09:02:41 PM
Thanks for the bump!  I'll go play that game for another 17 hours.  (please kill me)
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Nubbins on June 12, 2009, 11:07:02 AM
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on June 12, 2009, 11:12:42 AM
That's hilarious.  I would have never imagined a president playing along with gags like that...how we've changed.

Okay, back to that Phage game!
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Post by: monkey! on June 12, 2009, 11:17:30 AM
Americans are so gay.
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Post by: Nubbins on June 12, 2009, 11:21:10 AM
HE HEARD THAT WITH HIS IMMENSE EARS JOKE
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Post by: monkey! on June 12, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
That bit was funny.
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Post by: Nubbins on June 12, 2009, 12:36:37 PM
Americans are so gay.

So much for sophistication, eh guv?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 12, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
That Colbert/Obama bit is gold.
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Post by: nacho on July 08, 2009, 01:08:16 PM
I've not been following the Russian tour, but quick glances at the headlines shows an obsession with Michelle.  Russians share love for veggies with Michelle, etc. etc.  It's like I'm reading headlines from Eva Peron's Rainbow Tour.
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Post by: Tatertots on July 08, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
Don't Cry For Me, Kazakhstan.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2009, 06:37:58 PM
I don't know...

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Post by: Tatertots on July 11, 2009, 12:15:41 AM
Ha ha! Ah, French people.

Anyways, I think it's obvious that Obama's helping her down the steps.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Cassander on July 11, 2009, 01:20:58 AM
that's a great ass.  so the president of the red-blooded usa shouldn't look at an ass?  i mean, really.  what the fuck?  is there a class in journalism school called "remember: every politician is not allowed to have any personal characteristics!"?
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on July 11, 2009, 07:25:52 AM
See, he's really sleeping with that girl he was helping down.  It's brilliant!  I bet we'll be seeing more of Ass Girl.  That way nobody will notice that, on the left side of the screen, Obama is fucking children while in full SS regalia.

Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 07:37:53 AM
Nobel Peace Prize awarded to sitting president who's prosecuting two international wars (with troop escalation in one of them) and is kowtowing to the Chinese!

Discuss!

Oh, right, it's because they "hope it will inspire him to do even better."

Golly gee, Wally!
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Post by: Sirharles on October 09, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
Yea...that's a little ridiculous.  Especially, since one..he hasn't really done anything yet, and two the other nominees were much more qualified.
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Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 10:19:19 AM
It's disgusting and disturbing, really.  The more I think about it...
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Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 10:42:38 AM
Here's are the favorites (Obama wasn't even on the table with most people involved in guessing who'll win):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Jia_%28activist%29

Of course, we can't have that.  The world is pro-Chinese!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Tsvangirai

Pfft!  Africa.  And a black man!  Uh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedad_Cordoba

She seems a little hinky, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng

Another Chinese dissident.  Because WE NEED CHINESE DISSIDENTS.  But, again, the world is pro-Chinese.

You know, the China thing probably sticks in my throat the most from the scary mess of our current history.  Our blind financial allegiance to them... I understand why.  We all want our Made in China items.  We all love cheap sweatshop prices.  The American Dream can only thrive as long as we enslave billions... What can you do?
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Post by: Sirharles on October 09, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
You know...those last few episodes of Boston Legal weren't too far off were they?
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 11:09:33 AM
Yeah, it was nice that they could finally let their hair down there at the end.
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Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 11:15:53 AM
Man, I need a drink.

And the award for continuing the essentially unchanged Bush Doctrine goes to...
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Post by: Sirharles on October 09, 2009, 11:34:43 AM
So as the third sitting US President to get it, we are (after not even a year in office) comparing Obama to Roosevelt and Wilson? 

Basically this is the Norwegians, giving him a huge international blow job because other than the Peace Prize they have no real global influence.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 09, 2009, 12:08:58 PM
Man, Obama couldn't hold a candle...a match...an LED novelty light to Wilson and Teddy, let alone the reasons they picked up the prize.  They ended the wars they inherited.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 09, 2009, 12:18:38 PM
Completely ridiculous.

And by the way, he was nominated for the award 2 weeks after taking office.
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Post by: Tatertots on October 09, 2009, 11:50:53 PM
I'll give Obama credit for the acceptance speech. Really damn good.

It's the "HOLY SHIT THANK GOD YOU'RE NOT BUSH" award, really.
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Post by: Cassander on October 10, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
which, really, is stupid.  they should've known that there would be backlash.  why not even reach out to obama and tell him about it first?  i guarantee if they had told him before announcing it he would've turned it down.  it's like giving tom hanks an oscar because Variety just announced he was going to play Lou Gehrig in a biopic or something.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 10, 2009, 10:37:16 PM
You've got to wonder if shooting Obama in the foot is intentional.  He couldn't, really, turn it down without an equally bad backlash.  Surely they know that this is a double-edged sword politically.  [/murph]
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Post by: Nubbins on October 11, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
Leave it to Americans to be pissed off when their President wins one of the most prestigious awards on the planet.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 11, 2009, 11:38:30 PM
I think most people who are pissed off are not happy that he's president.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Tatertots on October 12, 2009, 01:07:15 AM
Still, even if you don't like him, how is the President of your country winning a Nobel NOT a good thing?

Even Bill O'Reilly, of all the assholes in the country, is happy that Obama got a Nobel.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 12, 2009, 09:52:35 AM
If I make up an award and give you one for something you might do, would you be happy?  If I give it to our president, should all Americans be happy?  The Nobel committee is about on par with that. 

I don't think most people are pissed off, more bewildered.  The people who ARE pissed off don't like him anyway and that's why they're pissed.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Nubbins on October 12, 2009, 11:38:56 AM
If I make up an award and give you one for something you might do, would you be happy?  If I give it to our president, should all Americans be happy?  The Nobel committee is about on par with that.
 

All I know is, for 6 years I was called unpatriotic, freedom-hating and told that I didn't care about national security simply because I disagreed with our President's policy of waging a preemptive war in Iraq.  Now conservatives from across the aisle are going apeshit because our President won a Nobel Peace Prize, completely blind to their own hipocrisy.  In addition, it's not even like the awarding of the prize can be influenced by "liberal media" or fringe lunatics... a panel of Norwegians chooses who wins the damn thing.

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According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded to the person who:

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during the preceding year [...] shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

...

Nobel died in 1896 and did not leave an explanation for choosing peace as a prize category. The categories for chemistry and physics were obvious choices as he was a trained chemical engineer. The reason behind the peace prize is less clear. According to the Norwegian Nobel Committee, there's significant evidence his friendship with Bertha von Suttner, a peace activist and later winner of the prize, may have profoundly influenced his decision to include peace as a category.  Scholars who studied Nobel have said it was Nobel's way to compensate for developing destructive forces (Nobel's inventions included dynamite and ballistite).

The award obviously has an ambiguous purpose.  The fact that Obama won it after such a short time in office speaks to how he is perceived by the rest of the world outside of America.  That alone is something we should be proud of... The American image is at least being slightly repaired after all the bullshit of the Bush regime.

In the end, I guess I'd rather have people hurling Nobels at my President than shoes.

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Post by: Cassander on October 12, 2009, 01:18:51 PM
So Obama is coming to New Orleans.  Problem is, he's not staying long enough to satisfy most folks.

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President Obama will visit the Martin Luther King Jr. Charter School in the Lower Ninth Ward and then hold a town hall meeting at the University of New Orleans Lakefront Campus on Thursday, the White House announced tonight.

The contours of the president's first visit to New Orleans since taking office now appear complete. Local officials, including Sens. Mary Landrieu, D-La., and David Vitter, R-La., had protested that the White House's original announcement had only listed the town hall meeting. Both asked that he take more time and add stops during Thursday's visit.

(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.nola.com%2Fpolitics%2Fphoto%2Fbarack-obama-dooky-chasejpg-a9074de184126e43_large.jpg&hash=8286b0bcb9d617a6c13106af2b17c097bd05381c)

When Barack Obama, then a candidate, visited New Orleans in February 2008, his itinerary included a bowl of gumbo at Dooky Chase.At right is Norman Francis, president of Xavier University.Obama will fly in on Air Force One Thursday morning, visit the Dr. King Charter School -- the only school to reopen in the Lower Ninth Ward after Hurricane Katrina -- and then conduct the town hall meeting at 1:15 p.m. at the UNO Recreation and Fitness Center on Lakeshore Drive.

"Having toured the city five times since Katrina before becoming president, this will be the president's first event that is open to the public," the White House said in releasing details of the town hall. "This will enable the people of New Orleans to convey their thoughts, challenges, and feedback directly to him."

Public access to the town hall will be limited.

Our two senators, Landrieu-D and Vitter-R, really gave him a pretty scathing letter about stopping by for more than a town hall, so they added on this school visit.  Once again the Lower Ninth Ward becomes the photo op.  While I'm excited that he's going to be in town (and registered to get tickets), it would seem to send a better message if he had an extensive tour.  Then again, as it says above, his Gulf Recovery team heads have been here in person many times, rotating through about one a month.  So at least the administration is doing work.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 12, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
All I know is, for 6 years I was called unpatriotic, freedom-hating and told that I didn't care about national security simply because I disagreed with our President's policy of waging a preemptive war in Iraq.  Now conservatives from across the aisle are going apeshit because our President won a Nobel Peace Prize, completely blind to their own hipocrisy.  In addition, it's not even like the awarding of the prize can be influenced by "liberal media" or fringe lunatics... a panel of Norwegians chooses who wins the damn thing.

I don't think the people who called you that were right.  I also don't think it's necessarily bad that he won the award, it's just very easy to question.  And, yes, a panel of Norwegians chooses who wins, but let's be realistic, it's a panel of liberal Norwegians.

The award obviously has an ambiguous purpose.  The fact that Obama won it after such a short time in office speaks to how he is perceived by the rest of the world outside of America.  That alone is something we should be proud of... The American image is at least being slightly repaired after all the bullshit of the Bush regime.

In the end, I guess I'd rather have people hurling Nobels at my President than shoes.

Sure, it's ambiguous.  And the reason for the uproar is not that people are upset that the great spirit of Nobel's wishes has been disrupted.  More that it's just a huge softball for people who want to gripe.  "Peace?!?  HA!  What peace!!"  I think that the fact that Obama won it after such a short time in office speaks to how Bush was perceived by the rest of the world.  And it is good that our reputation improves globally.  I don't think that warrants a Nobel Peace Prize, but...who cares?  Great, our president won.  I'd rather have the olympics.  :D  At least they will be local time.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: Nubbins on October 12, 2009, 02:43:31 PM
I'd rather have the olympics.  :D  At least they will be local time.

Hell yeah!  Now, if we'd had a choice... the Nobel Peace Prize for Obama or the Olympics, I'd definitely be pissed if we chose the Nobel. :)


I just found this article from WPR:

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... So if the choice of Obama is inarguably premature, then what signal was Norway, one of America's oldest and most sensible friends, trying to send?

Simply put, Thank you, America.


-Thank you for rejoining this world that you've done so much to build and improve and defend, because there is still no other nation that combines your sheer power and moral leadership.

- Thank you for recognizing how much you'd gone off the deep end after 9/11 and for making the necessary course correction, because you've done it in a manner that has dramatically re-energized global diplomacy at a time of great global crisis.

- Thank you especially for having the courage to openly admit the mistakes you've made in recent years and apologizing for them with sincere humility, because we've never seen a global leader do that before -- ever.

- Thank you for rejecting Bush-Cheney's dangerous quest for global primacy in an age of multiple rising great powers, because as the world's sole superpower, only America can invite these nations into the "club" without destabilizing it.

- Thank you for moving away from the previous administration's tendency to play fast and loose with rules we hold so dearly, like those involving torture or the unjust treatment of suspected terrorists, because your example matters most on this subject.

- Thank you for trying to unwind your ongoing interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan in a responsible, non-panicked manner, and thank you even more for still being willing to suffer the bulk of coalition casualties.

- Thank you for keeping up your good fight against global extremism and terrorism while no longer letting that effort dominate your entire foreign policy, because the global agenda is simply too full right now to allow for such strategic myopia.

- Thank you for reaching out to the Islamic world in a respectful manner despite this ongoing struggle, because we know that wasn't easy after all the names you've been called and all the immigrants you've warmly accepted from all over the world.

- Thank you for the "reset" with Russia, because as that troubled regime's next-door neighbor, Europe needs an America that's more mature than Moscow can manage to be right now.

- Thank you for your calm but decisive leadership during the worst global economic crisis since the Great Depression and the first truly global recession of modern globalization, because anything less could have sent the world spiraling toward real conflict.

- Thank you for not making China the scapegoat for all your economic problems and publicly recognizing how crucial China is to global economic stability going forward, because God knows the Chinese were no more ready for this crisis than you were.

- Thank you for recognizing the need to formally expand globalization's "board of directors" from the narrow G-7 to the truly global G-20, because it was just what the world needed right now -- another fine example of your inclusive nature.

- Thank you for restraining yourself from widespread trade protectionism during this moment of great economic and financial vulnerability, because we know how scared and angry your middle class is right now -- and thus how carefully you must lead.

- Thank you for recognizing the unsustainable nature of your financial relationship with the world and moving in the direction of correcting that imbalance in a responsible fashion -- to include trying to fix your out-of-control health care costs.

- Thank you for finally taking our fears about global warming seriously, and giving us every indication that you'll work with us toward a sensible global pact that mitigates this very real challenge without alienating the global economy's rising pillars.

- Thank you for not doing anything stupid or rash regarding North Korea's and Iran's nuclear programs while signaling your willingness to continue working toward a nuclear-free world -- however distant and implausible that goal seems right now.

- Thank you for deciding not to go ahead with that missile shield in Eastern Europe while signaling your willingness to extend your nuclear umbrella -- and missile defenses -- to countries truly threatened by Iran's growing capabilities.

- Thank you for showing some spine regarding Israel's disastrous Palestinian policies and its understandable instinct to strike out militarily at Iran, because we know how hard it is for you to try and discipline your longtime ally.

- Thank you for electing the son of a black man and a white woman the president of your country and reminding us of your union's consistently stunning ability to reinvent itself for the better.

- Thank you for continuing to remain optimistic about the future despite your current woes and those of the world at large, because we need your pragmatic but visionary leadership now more than ever.

- Finally, thank you for not rejecting this "thank you," for it was offered with the hope of encouraging you toward even more difficult decisions and adjustments in the years ahead, while pushing us to do the very same.
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Post by: Cassander on October 12, 2009, 03:25:25 PM
Thank you for doing all the things that we, as tiny, insular nations, can't be bothered to do ourselves.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 12, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
My own positive reaction to that piece has illuminated for me just how tired I am of hearing that the rest of the world hates my country.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 12, 2009, 05:28:21 PM
It will be nice to travel again without having to defend myself and America to every man, woman, and child.
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Post by: Nubbins on October 12, 2009, 05:54:42 PM
Amen to all of that. 
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Post by: Sirharles on October 27, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Interesting article on how the press is percieved to treat Obama differently.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091027/pl_politico/28764
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Let's keep an eye on http://ifbushhaddonethat.com/

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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 27, 2009, 12:21:58 PM
That's the latest right-wing attack. "Obama went golfing! If Bush would have done that . . ."

My argument is that those critcism of Bush didn't come until later.
Title: Re: Aww... It's the Man of the People thread!
Post by: nacho on October 27, 2009, 12:31:11 PM

My argument is that those critcism of Bush didn't come until later.

Yeah, like, a day after the election.  Before 9/11, Bush was heavily criticized, and had public approval ratings below 50%.  Most folks tend to forget that he started off as a joke.

Then came the war...
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 27, 2009, 01:26:43 PM
I just think it's a child's argument. "Well, Tommy did it but that doesn't make it okay."
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
Oh, yeah, I agree.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 27, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
And what really baffles me is that there are legitimate arguments for criticizing Obama's policies and philosophy, yet the right-wingers pick the most insane ones to constantly rail about.

I guess if it's not totally crazy, who's going to listen?
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2009, 01:35:32 PM
Right wingers love themselves and feel justified and, therefore, are capable of complaining only about the most superficial things. 

Left wingers hate themselves and feel oppressed and, so, complain about the world at large.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 27, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
That's so fucked up, it almost makes sense.