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Title: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 04, 2009, 10:58:22 AM
Another clearinghouse style thread to keep the no-reply posts down....

We'll start off with a note on the continuing fall of The Smiler:

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You know all those Elizabeth Edwards supporters who said her philandering husband ought to be charged with criminally no-goodnik behavior? They might yet get their wish: Former presidential aspirant John Edwards has confirmed to his hometown paper that he's under federal investigation.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 04, 2009, 03:02:49 PM
"There are two Americas; One running for president and one railing out some whore while his wife is getting treatment for cancer."
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 05, 2009, 11:32:27 AM
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Republicans appear to have secured a major victory over the Obama Administration and the Democratic leadership of Congress on the president's request for $81 million to close the terrorist detention center at Guantanamo Bay. Democrats dropped President Obama's request for the closure money from the text of a $94 billion supplemental appropriations bill to fund operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Democrats dropped the provision in the face of criticism from Republicans over the Administration's as yet unannounced plans for housing the detainees once the facility closes.

Iowa Rep. Steve King (R) summed up Republican criticism of President Obama's plan to close Guantanamo Bay, framing it as a national security issue.

    "[Closing Guantanamo] just never stood up to logic. There is no place on the planet to take the worst of the worst that would treat them as well as they are treated at [Guantanamo]."

    The bottom line really is that [if the prisoners are released], innocent people will die and some of them likely will be Americans."

A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said that Republican obstructionism was to blame for the funding being removed from the war supplemental. But as the minority party, Republicans have little or no ability to influence legislation in the drafting stage. That the funding was removed is far more indicative of the political pressure Democrats are feeling as a result of Republican criticism than of any organized effort by Republicans to cut the controversial provision from the bill.

President Obama signed an executive order to great fanfare in the earliest days of his Administration directing that the detention center at Guantanamo Bay would close within one year. It was billed as the fulfillment of a campaign promise, and a major break with Bush Administration policies in the war on terror. But critics have always asserted that the move was incomplete absent a plan for what to do with the detainees held there, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and some of the plotters of the September 11th attacks. Now Democrats in Congress appear to be responding to that criticism by quietly denying the president the funding to close Guantanamo Bay. Congress can still provide the money in a separate appropriation. But it is clear now that President Obama will have to provide more details about his plans for housing terrorists currently held at the facility if he wants the money necessary to turn his rhetoric into action.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Cassander on May 05, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
the article i read today made it a little less of a "republican realism vs. democratic idealism" issue.  basically the $50 mill was just earmarked in case they had to build and staff some new facility in america or for vague logistics.  one committee member basically said "when they have a real plan, we'll be glad to hear it."  so....better start working on that plan.  but i have a feeling what will happen is there will just be a regime change in Gitmo and new, friendly guards and overseers will be touted.  i don't think it's really obama's fault.  once bush put them all there, there's not really any going back.  even if these detainees were innocent, no country is going to want a cell-created madman angry at life, fate, or, at the least, government (any government) wandering around their country. 
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 05, 2009, 11:22:29 PM
Whatever happened to HST's idea with the Cuban lunatics that Castro sent over on the boats?  Give them five bucks and a switchblade and drop them off in downtown Miami.  We can do the same with the Guantanamo terrorists, except in cities throughout the US.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Cassander on May 06, 2009, 01:49:19 AM
dude, you could totally just drop them all off in detroit.  it's the same kind of thing as miami in the 70s.  no industry, no real middle class, a high percentage of sympathetic immigrants...a city on the verge. 

seriously, i just spoke at length with a person who was there for the final four tournament as a city representative...forget buffalo and cleveland.  Detroit could turn into what "Escape from LA" looks like within 10 years.  it's a fucking post-WWII city within 21st century american borders. 

of course, that'll never fly with anybody.  not even i would suggest just dropping these guys there.  but still.  detroit.  man.

or, fuck.  take them to guam or a tiny shelf island in hawaii.  let them forge their own prisoner colony. 
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 06, 2009, 07:08:38 AM
Prisoner colonies are fun!
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 03, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
NEWSFLASH: Palin is a fucking moron. More at 11.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/03/palin/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin announced Friday that she will step down as Alaska's chief executive by the end of the month. She will not seek election to a second gubernatorial term in 2010.

As the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, Palin had been considered one of the front-runners for the GOP nomination in 2012.

"People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska," Palin said at an announcement from her home in Wasilla. "Serving her people is the greatest honor I could imagine."

Palin was elected governor in 2006. She was tapped as Arizona Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate last year.

Palin said she was transferring authority to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who will be sworn in at the Governor's Picnic on July 26.

Palin added in a statement that she was "determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is not the easiest path. ... Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional lame duck status in this particular climate would just be another dose of politics as usual, something I campaigned against and will always oppose."

A Republican source close to her political team told CNN's John King that it was a "calculation" she made that "it was time to move on." The governor's "book deal and other issues" were "causing a lot of friction" in her home state, the source said, adding that he believes she is "mapping out a path to 2012."

Another source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Palin "thinks she has accomplished goals she has set forward. ... She sees what a positive influence she has had on people's lives from traveling the country in the last year."

Following Palin's announcement, the Democratic National Committee blasted what it called her "bizarre behavior."

"Either Sarah Palin is leaving the people of Alaska high and dry to pursue her long shot national political ambitions or she simply can't handle the job now that her popularity has dimmed and oil revenues are down," DNC spokesman Brad Woodhouse said.

"Either way, her decision to abandon her post and the people of Alaska who elected her continues a pattern of bizarre behavior that more than anything else may explain the decision she made today."

Republican strategist and CNN contributor Ed Rollins said, to a certain extent, Palin's announcement makes her look "terribly inept."

"I think everyone is shocked by this, and I think to a certain extent everyone is going to assume there's another story. You don't just quit with a year and a half to go. You certainly don't do this as a stepping stone to run for president. You finish the job that you're in, and obviously she's not doing that," he said.

"I think people are going to be very suspicious because of the timing. You don't quit on the Friday of a three-day holiday. If you are going to do this, you think it through, you give a good speech," Rollins said.

However, CNN Republican Strategist Mary Matalin said she thought the move was "really brilliant" on Palin's part, though she admitted she was surprised when she first heard the news.

"Her delivery was incredible, if you're a less charismatic person, you probably couldn't pull it off," Matalin said. "[Now] she will be freed up and liberated the way Mitt Romney is to raise money and get political chips by spending it and getting political capital. And she is still raising the kinds of crowds and money she always did."

Now, Matalin says, Palin must focus on "putting up with the conventional wisdom" that this was a bad move and travel the country to drum up support for a presidential run.

"She takes that target off her back with a good record to launch from," Matalin said.

When asked about whether it's possible Palin stepped down because of something negative we hadn't heard yet, Matalin referenced Palin's own words that investigators have dug through research in the ethics investigation.

"We presume if there was anything else we would know it by now," Matalin said.

In an interview last month with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Palin said she was unsure about her re-election bid because she needed to focus on her state and her family.

"So, no decision yet on either 2010 or let alone 2012?" Blitzer asked.

"No decision that I'd want to announce today," Palin responded.

Palin catapulted on the national stage last August when McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, chose her as his running mate.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 03, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
haha... Man, what a freakshow.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 03, 2009, 08:44:40 PM
She's a man. That's her big secret.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 03, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
I'm hoping that we'll finally get an admission that Trig or Twig or whatever the little bastard's name is is not her's, but her daughter's.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 03, 2009, 09:24:26 PM
I'm hoping for a Playboy spread.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 03, 2009, 09:33:29 PM
FEH. I see enough cankles at the supermarket, thank you.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 03, 2009, 09:38:53 PM
How about a spread with all three daughters?
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 03, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
Warmer!
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 03, 2009, 11:20:47 PM
I'm hoping for a Playboy spread.

Me too. MILFY . . .
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Cassander on July 06, 2009, 01:42:54 AM
actually i read a whole article about how the only thing she could hope to accomplish as governor through the rest of her term was not be lynched.  the entire legislature hates her, she hasn't enacted any sort of comprehensive top-down policy, and is generally a limelight-seeking whore who has no time for alaska.  she's facing legislative overrides of several of her vetoes, including the one where she's denying federal unemployment assistance (which, for some reason, is Red State bait), and that nagging Troopergate investigation is still ongoing.  so basically she's way more popular in the contiguous 48 than back home, so it was time to cut her losses. 

i mean, whatever she does is fine with me.  she won't be the nominee in 2012, right?  I mean, that would be just crazy, right?  RIGHT? 

of course, a battle royale between Palin and my own super-square governor, Bobby Jindal would be hilarious to watch for 4 months.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 06, 2009, 07:10:27 AM
It would be like the special olympics presidential race.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 06, 2009, 01:44:55 PM
Among my liberal friends, Palin elicits a similar ferocity of hatred to Hillary, among my conservative friends.

I'm wondering if there is some kind of woman-in-power trigger thing going on that only comes out when the woman in power is on the other team.  Because then it's acceptable to say whatever you like?  Dunno...I just thought of this.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 06, 2009, 02:39:24 PM
It comes out when the woman in power on the other team is a FLAMING IDIOT.

I hated Hillary but at least respected the fact that she had an IQ above room temperature. Palin, on the other hand…
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
I've had long debates about this. Palin is setting back women in politics twenty years at least.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2009, 12:54:32 PM
I sometimes wonder if that's her job.  In that Illuminati sort of way.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 07, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
"Department of Law"? HA HA HA! Oh my god.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8016906&page=1

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After her bombshell announcement Friday that she was resigning as governor of Alaska 18 months before the end of her first term, and questions about her political future ricocheting from Alaska to Washington D.C., Sarah Palin packed it up, traveled more than 300 miles from her family home in Wasila and went fishing.

It was there in Dillingham, Alaska, on the shores of Kanakanak Beach, that ABC News joined the former Republican presidential running mate on a salmon fishing trip. Dressed in a white T-shirt and overall waders, Alaska's governor was philosophical about politics and life, all the while plucking salmon from the family fishing nets aboard a boat her husband, Todd, and a buddy built 20 years ago.

Palin said she was surprised by the media storm that followed her announcement to leave office, saying she thought it would not have been "such a darn big deal." But she struck a determined, if vague, note about her future.

"I said before I stood in front of the mic the other day, you know, politically speaking -- if I die, I die. So be it," Palin said.

"Don't know what the future holds. I'm not gonna shut any door. That -- who knows what doors open. I can't predict what the next fish run's gonna look like down on the Nushagak [River]. So I certainly can't predict what's gonna happen in the next couple of years," Palin told ABC News.

Palin hinted that whether she holds elected office again, she does not intend to live a quiet life made up entirely of family fishing trips. "I don't need a title to be the one to usher in what it is that needs to be done in our state or our country."

Palin conceded many people are still confused about why she made the decision to leave office.

"You know why they're confused? I guess they cannot take something nowadays at face value," Palin said.

But she said a major factor in the decision was the mounting legal bills she and the state have had to incur to fight ethics charges from her political adversaries. None of the accusations has been proven but, she said, the costs of fighting them have been enormous.

"You know conditions have really changed in Alaska in the political arena since Aug. 29, since I was tapped to run for VP. When that opposition research -- those researchers really bombarded Alaska -- started digging for dirt and have not let up. They're not gonna find any dirt," she said. "We keep proving that every time we win an ethics violation lawsuit and we've won every one of them. But it has been costing our state millions of dollars. It's cost Todd and me. You know the adversaries would love to see us put on the path of personal bankruptcy so that we can't afford to run."

But as for whether another pursuit of national office, as she did less than a year ago when she joined Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the race for the White House, would result in the same political blood sport, Palin said there is a difference between the White House and what she has experienced in Alaska. If she were in the White House, she said, the "department of law" would protect her from baseless ethical allegations.

"I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.

There is no "Department of Law" at the White House.

Palin's Dim View of Politicians

Another major reason that Palin said she is walking away from her first term as Alaska's governor is because after she made the decision not to seek a second term as governor, she would be a lame duck and she refuses to "milk" that status. She said most politicians "say it's a paycheck, it's a paycheck and I get to travel around. No, that's politics as usual."

Palin spoke openly about her ideas for the country, national security and energy, and she took a dim view of politicians. "No, I don't really like a whole lot of politicians," she said.

Salmon fishing is a family affair for the Palins. Their fourth child, daughter Piper, age 8, was on hand to help. And 1-year-old baby Trig, who Palin said is getting ready to walk, stayed back on shore.

Palin said the family hasn't discussed any plans to move away from Alaska. But when the family discussed whether she ought to leave office, it was her eldest child, son Track, who is serving in Iraq, who voted "hell, yeah."

Husband Todd Palin said, "It's been a topic of discussion quietly for a while. It's never come to an, 'I can't take it anymore'. Let's vote. It's been a few months and it just seemed that the resistance, the wasted time and the wasted money she had to go through every day."

He said he doubts that his wife's resignation will be a weight off her shoulders. "She's gonna continue to be busy," he said.

Sarah Palin said, "Every mom that we know multi-tasks. I'm gonna keep working extremely hard but I am looking forward to having my kids by my side more, without getting criticized for having the kids by my side.

"I'm extremely happy," she said. "I know that I know that I know that this is the right thing for Alaska."
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 07, 2009, 01:49:43 PM
It comes out when the woman in power on the other team is a FLAMING IDIOT.

I hated Hillary but at least respected the fact that she had an IQ above room temperature. Palin, on the other hand…

Okay, but she's on the other team, so who cares, right?  Why get mad about it?

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2009, 01:55:41 PM

It comes out when the woman in power on the other team is a FLAMING IDIOT.

I hated Hillary but at least respected the fact that she had an IQ above room temperature. Palin, on the other hand…

Okay, but she's on the other team, so who cares, right?  Why get mad about it?



I'm not sure exacty what you're driving at, Reggie, but let me ask you: As a conservative do you feel Palin is good for the GOP and by extension the country?
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 07, 2009, 01:55:52 PM
Because A) she's fucking it up for other female politicians and, B) she lowers the level of political discussion in this country to tawdry, soap opera levels. With Palin, it's never, "here's cool shit we're going to accomplish!" It's always, "oh my god you writer people are so mean to me and the defense of Alaska from the pipeline that is not a bulldog which is to say that my daughters are not up for discussion although I drag them along to every lame political engagement I do, by which I mean this is how I'm going to make our country safer. Also, negro."
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2009, 02:11:42 PM
Come on, Reggie!  Polarization is so Bush Era!
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 07, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
I'm not really driving at anything.  I think Sarah Palin is a moron, and it's incredible to me that she could have been our vice president.  My only point here is that I notice people getting angry about the very existence of her in the same way that people get angry about Hillary.  Both of them rub me the wrong way.

I feel Palin is as good for the country as Bush or Obama;  that is to say, not good at all.  It's a big nothing to me.  I kind of hope that the GOP does something stupid like picks Palin for '12...it would be hilarious to watch...and if it led to the destruction of our political system...so be it!  That's what I want anyway.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
and if it led to the destruction of our political system...so be it!  That's what I want anyway.

Resistenza!  Down with Mussolini!
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Nubbins on July 08, 2009, 11:35:52 AM
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"I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.

There is no "Department of Law" at the White House.

I love it.  Almost a year after she gets tapped for a VP run, the press still nitpicks her idiotic quotes.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Tatertots on July 08, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
If I were a reporter, I'd try to get her to say that she'd want to create a Ministry of Truth.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Nubbins on July 14, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
This is one of the best articles I've read on Sarah Palin's resignation... it lays things out pretty clearly but, yes... it's from the NYT so maybe there's a liberal agenda here, I don't know.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/13/us/politics/13palin.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&sq=sarah%20palin&st=cse&scp=3

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In late March, a senior official from the Republican Governors Association headed for Alaska on a secret mission. Sarah Palin was beset by such political and personal turmoil that some powerful supporters determined an intervention was needed to pull her governorship, and her national future, back from the brink.

The official, the association’s executive director, Nick Ayers, arrived with a memorandum containing firm counsel, according to several people who know its details: Make a long-term schedule and stick to it, have staff members set aside ample and inviolable family time to replenish your spirits, and build a coherent home-state agenda that creates jobs and ensures re-election.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 14, 2009, 03:37:34 PM
Interesting to see the "Department of Law" quote in context.  Who knew that Alaska has a Department of Law? 

It seemed very balanced to me.  Good article.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on August 25, 2009, 12:56:36 PM
Are we following the government shutdowns?  Maryland is about to force 10 unpaid days on all government workers.  RI is next with 12 furlough days planned.

Also, look at Mena Suvari's ass:

http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/uploaded_images/MenaSuvari-793411.png

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Nubbins on August 25, 2009, 12:57:34 PM
American BOOOTAAAAY
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Cassander on August 26, 2009, 03:37:51 AM
i've never been able to think of mena as hot.  it's those fishlips and limp hair.  and tiny, tiny boobies.  and complete lack of acting talent.  to me she's only been allowed success so far because they're planning to tap her for a courtney love biopic one day.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 10:41:48 AM
We following the Brits?  Looks like Labour's about to fall... Though it's a good day for the Lib Dems.

I have a hard time getting a fix on the Lib-Dems.  They're centrists, and Clegg claims to be left leaning...and something about Clegg gives me a Dead Zone feeling.

But, anyway, they'll save Labour's face somewhat.  No matter which way you look at it, though, there's strong indication that the 538 site is right and this will be a hung parliament.


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/uk-seats-projection-tories-299-labour.html

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Matt on April 29, 2010, 11:09:44 AM
Labour is way more "socialist" than the LibDems....
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 11:20:54 AM
Yeah, most folks say the Lib-Dems will go with the Tories...
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 11:29:34 AM
Of course, the weird thing with the Tories is that they're basically spouting stuff along the lines of the old Blair government and the Obama government.

Which goes back to the debate that American liberalism is actually on par with European conservatism.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 12:20:43 PM
Here's the gaffe that killed Labour:


Just an open mic flub at the very end where he insults the woman (who, you know, had some good points).

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
And, now, British National Party comedy!




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BNP would offer non-white Britons £50,000 to leave UK, says Nick Griffin

Party leader says resettlement grants would be partially funded by scrapping 'ridiculous' climate change adaptation policies

The BNP would offer non-white British people £50,000 to leave "overcrowded" Britain and return to the land of their ancestors, the party's leader Nick Griffin said today.

Griffin said the voluntary programme would be open to around 180,000 people a year who "could go back and help develop their own countries". He said the scheme would be funded from the foreign aid budget and money the government is "wasting at the moment on ridiculous climate change adaptation policies".

"We're saying that we'd give resettlement grants ... this is voluntary ... we're looking probably at £50,000 per person," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

Griffin said that the doors would be closed to everyone because Britain was "the most overcrowded country in Europe", but he did give exceptions. He said that Irish people would be allowed in because "as far as we are concerned the Irish are part of Britain and are fully entitled to come here".
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 02:43:08 PM
And, now, British National Party comedy!




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BNP would offer non-white Britons £50,000 to leave UK, says Nick Griffin

Party leader says resettlement grants would be partially funded by scrapping 'ridiculous' climate change adaptation policies

The BNP would offer non-white British people £50,000 to leave "overcrowded" Britain and return to the land of their ancestors, the party's leader Nick Griffin said today.

Griffin said the voluntary programme would be open to around 180,000 people a year who "could go back and help develop their own countries". He said the scheme would be funded from the foreign aid budget and money the government is "wasting at the moment on ridiculous climate change adaptation policies".

"We're saying that we'd give resettlement grants ... this is voluntary ... we're looking probably at £50,000 per person," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

Griffin said that the doors would be closed to everyone because Britain was "the most overcrowded country in Europe", but he did give exceptions. He said that Irish people would be allowed in because "as far as we are concerned the Irish are part of Britain and are fully entitled to come here".


Aaahhh!!!!


Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2010, 02:48:12 PM
In the fine British tradition of spending a thousand bucks to take the piss out of people:

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Poppy Propercock on April 29, 2010, 03:40:26 PM
The next debate is on shortly...  streaming live!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/election2010/liveevent/ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/election2010/liveevent/)
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Matt on April 30, 2010, 12:59:21 AM
Oh, American politics is regressive as hell. Obama is little better than Reagan at this point.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on April 30, 2010, 10:41:44 AM
Whew, boy!  I want you to come here and tell Victory Party that so I can watch you two fight with broken bottles.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: monkey! on April 30, 2010, 12:38:20 PM
The Labour government has failed in many ways:

The BNP is a problem symptomatic of a poor government and social system (the last 13 years under Labour) which has failed to control illegal immigration and subsequent negative effects upon the socio-economic sphere which has now the highest levels of unemployed 'young people' and racial violence/intolerance.

The two illegal wars waged by Labour's ex-leader and war criminal, Tony Blair and Labour's flat out ignoring the British public's protests again going to war have led to voter apathy for many years (another reason why people ended up turning to the BNP) because the government fails to listen.

Labour's bed sharing with the financial sector was what allowed, in many respects, the collapse of UK banks, stocks and the massive recession in the British economy.


The Conservatives certainly look more attractive than Labour but David Cameron dislikes directly answering questions.

The Lib Dems are always categorized as "risky" or a "wasted vote" but their voter pool and support base have been steadily growing for years and could provide a surprise if people can pluck up the courage to vote for a party that hasn't fucked up the economy/welfare state/NHS in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 07, 2010, 10:41:05 AM
Well, as predicted, it's a mess.  Except...the Lib-Dems got their asses handed to them.
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Post by: Cassander on May 07, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
And the Great Ignored will go on being...ignored.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: monkey! on May 07, 2010, 11:41:59 AM
It's a shame - the Lib Dems were the only party talking something vaguely resembling 'sense' on some major issues.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on May 07, 2010, 12:04:31 PM
Which might have been their problem!  Don't trust those types.  Trust the shifty two-dimensional puppets.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on June 21, 2010, 03:28:13 PM
Holy shit.... How'd I miss this?




http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/the-political-power-or-lack-th.html

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6112293-rep-bob-etheridge-dnc-is-filmed-assaulting-a-college-student

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North Carolina Rep. Bob Etheridge's confrontation on a Washington street with someone trying to videotape him immediately led to speculation that the Democratic incumbent had badly jeopardized his chances of winning re-election this November.

Conservative blogs -- like Red State and National Review's The Corner -- quickly leapt on the episode to highlight the heretofore unknown candidacy of nurse Renee Ellmers.

The National Republican Congressional Committee reached out to Ellmers as well, according to a source familiar with the organization's operations.

Elmers, for her part, told the Charlotte Observer that donations from across the country had flooded into her campaign in the immediate aftermath of the video, adding that the incident "does put a whole different spectrum to who [Etheridge] is."
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: Matt on June 21, 2010, 04:26:14 PM
ExiledOnline commented that it's pretty suspicious that that video is edited and the faces of the antagonists is blurred out. Not defending his actions, but does cast a lot of doubt on what was said to make him get pissed off, and who was doing it. After the bullshit "Swift Boating" of ACORN and the reveal that those videotapes were absolute bullshit editing hackjobs, you'd trust these chumps to be honest?
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: monkey! on February 06, 2012, 10:34:31 PM
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/05/u_s_drones_targeting_rescuers_and_mourners/singleton/

"Remember how Obama said that US drone attacks have "not caused a huge number of civilian casualties?" Yeah, turns out they've been targeting rescuers at the scenes of previous attacks. And firing on mourners at funerals."

Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on June 28, 2012, 01:14:16 PM
Obamacare!


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Yes, it's terrible that this hacked-up right-wing law from a center-right administration was held up by the most conservative court in decades, surely they and the insurance companies fundraising for them will be weeping into their lobster tonight.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on July 13, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
Ouch...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/13/13-reasons-why-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever/?hpid=z1
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 16, 2016, 10:17:28 PM
Love it.

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Conservative congressional candidate shares screenshot, forgets to close porn windows

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/16/1527124/-Conservative-congressional-candidate-shares-screenshot-forgets-to-close-porn-windows
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: nacho on October 02, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Spain! The Catalan vote has been interesting to follow. They've now voted for independence -- which Spain has declared illegal. The next steps are fire and pain or the beginning of the end for Spain. Catalonia is just one of several regions that wouldn't mind going their own way.
Title: Re: Random Political News
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 02, 2017, 04:58:01 PM
There was a great piece covering this on NPR yesterday.