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Children of the Sun => Newsday => Political Junkies => Topic started by: nacho on November 05, 2008, 10:37:46 AM

Title: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2008, 10:37:46 AM
So even if Stevens does win -- which is insane -- he won't make it past January and there'll be a special election.

So, gee, who could the GOP put up as the senator from Alaska....?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 05, 2008, 11:56:40 AM
By Golly, I can't imagine!
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Nubbins on November 05, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
please go away Sarah Palin please go away please please please oh please I'll give you a million dollars just go away
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2008, 12:55:39 PM
She won't. 

If Stevens had lost, it would not have been a problem.  But he won by 4000 votes.  So the special election in Janurary, I betcha, by golly, will see Palin in there... Who will easily defeat Begich.

And so begins her path to 2012.  The only problem people had with her in the exit polls was not enough experience.  So how about four years as a Senator?  That's the only experience Obama had...
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Tatertots on November 05, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
OH GOD NO PLEASE MAKE IT STOP.

She'd be eviscerated in the primaries, though.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Right now she would be.  But four years agitating as a senator... and the American public watching the Mandate Congress be crippled by the usual pedophiles, closeted gays, corruption, and do-nothingness that hits every Congress... You never know. 
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Nubbins on November 05, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
Wait though... doesn't Palin pick the person who replaces Stevens?  Is she allowed to pick herself?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 05, 2008, 04:43:40 PM
I don't know. Nacho?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2008, 04:52:42 PM
First, the Senate needs to expel him.  That takes a two-thirds vote, which will happen as soon as he takes office.

Once he is expelled (both parties have agreed to do so in the event of his victory), then Palin will appoint a Republican of her choosing to fill his seat until a special election is held.

In Alaska, a special election must be held within 90 days of his resignation/impeachment.  However, at that point, it's anyone's game and up to the party.  It's essentially like having a fresh election, except it'll just be for the senate.  So Begich will have to run all over again, if he chooses.

Palin cannot appoint herself as the 90 day replacement, but she is allowed to run in the special election.



Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Nubbins on November 05, 2008, 05:40:11 PM
aha!
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Cassander on November 05, 2008, 11:15:42 PM
we're gonna have one too.  On December 6th, the election for the 2nd congressional district will be held with William Jefferson up against a...who cares?  it could be shwarzenegger and he'd lose.  the district has reelected jefferson 10 times.  anyway.  i think his trial for political corruption/taking bribes starts on dec 2nd, assuming it doesn't get continued...again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Jefferson
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: vernae on November 06, 2008, 10:03:05 AM


Palin cannot appoint herself as the 90 day replacement, but she is allowed to run in the special election.



Sorry Nacho but there isn’t anything in the Alaska constitution that implicitly or explicitly prohibits Palin from appointing herself. Of course, this would be political suicide and unprecedented but Palin, being the self proclaimed “maverick” may indeed jump on the opportunity.  And I welcome it!
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 06, 2008, 10:30:49 AM
Thanks to Frank Murkowski, who appointed his daughter to the senate in 2002, Alaska passed a ballot measure in 2004 that forbids the governor from appointing themselves (or family members). 
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 06, 2008, 12:50:46 PM
Which is actually silly.  What you're saying is, okay, the governor can pick any Alaskan citizen who is eligible for Congress.  That is a huge wide open door for the governor's whim.  Then you restrict it with, oh, but no one related to you!!  What about a political family where a qualified person is related to the governor?  This is one of the tricky things about direct democracy (ballot items) vs. representative democracy, I guess.

Note, this is an abstract point, not really particular to the current Alaskan governor, who is a moron.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 06, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
Aren't there nepotism restrictions in most jobs? Why should the government be any different?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 06, 2008, 09:02:04 PM
Now the Palinwatch thread!

Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Cassander on November 07, 2008, 01:50:11 AM
Which is actually silly.  What you're saying is, okay, the governor can pick any Alaskan citizen who is eligible for Congress.  That is a huge wide open door for the governor's whim.  Then you restrict it with, oh, but no one related to you!!  What about a political family where a qualified person is related to the governor?  This is one of the tricky things about direct democracy (ballot items) vs. representative democracy, I guess.

Note, this is an abstract point, not really particular to the current Alaskan governor, who is a moron.

this is part of my "government is reactionary" argument.  we put in laws that say, "oh! but no family members!" in response to nepotism claims.  the same kind of loopholes are apparent in the "no golden parachute" bailout.  the strict language only applies to about 1/2 of a percent of CEOs. 

but, it's not just alaska in this certain palin-dominted news-cycle.  the same thing could happen in all of your states.  if you want to be a realist, no one's bitching about the races in delaware, illinois, and connecticuit.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 07, 2008, 10:47:35 AM
Now the Palinwatch thread!

Ah!  Her most cogent performance ever...now that the pressure's off and it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 07, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
this is part of my "government is reactionary" argument.  we put in laws that say, "oh! but no family members!" in response to nepotism claims.  the same kind of loopholes are apparent in the "no golden parachute" bailout.  the strict language only applies to about 1/2 of a percent of CEOs. 

I'll take it a step further into conspiracy-land.  I think that there are many [laws, executive orders, whathaveyou] drafted and ready to go in case of a disaster that can be leveraged to gain power or money for the writers of said item.  Oh, someone has hacked/brought down the Internet?  You can bet there will be legislation enacted granting broad powers to FBI/CIA/Air Force to protect, monitor, administer various things.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Nubbins on November 19, 2008, 03:34:36 PM
Stevens defeated!  Palin's outta luck on the senate seat.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Tatertots on November 19, 2008, 05:41:49 PM
Thank god.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2008, 12:25:35 PM
She's not going to be gotten rid of that easily.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Cassander on November 22, 2008, 12:13:17 AM
RC has hope for random republican fear!
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on January 16, 2009, 10:05:01 AM
I'm starting to drift back into the news... If only for the comedy bits.

Quote
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said her state intends to sue the U. S. government for listing beluga whales in Cook Inlet as an endangered species.

Palin, the Republican party's vice-presidential nominee for last November's election, said the federal government didn't properly consider actions Alaska has taken to protect the whale before making its ruling.

Huh?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 16, 2009, 10:21:11 AM
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on January 16, 2009, 10:22:24 AM
Have you seen Naylin Palin?  It's nice.  There's a sequel now with Obama.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 16, 2009, 10:25:42 AM
No. I'll pick it up.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on January 16, 2009, 10:26:44 AM
It's not my kind of porn, but it is hilarious when you're really drunk.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 16, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
That means my wife should love it.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: monkey! on January 22, 2009, 08:51:48 AM
It's not my kind of porn, but it is hilarious when you're really drunk.

Is there actually Sarah Palin porn or is it a look-a-like?
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on January 22, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
Look-a-like.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Cassander on November 18, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/sarah-palin-book-quotes-111709?src=rss
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Tatertots on November 18, 2009, 11:54:02 PM
She scares me on so many levels. So. Many.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: nacho on November 18, 2009, 11:59:37 PM
God, I'm waiting for that shit to leak.  Let me know if any of you find the book.
Title: Re: The Senator from Alaska
Post by: Tatertots on November 19, 2009, 01:50:47 PM
http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/11/17/going-rogue/