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Title: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on March 17, 2008, 11:08:43 AM
Yeah, hurricanes are stupid now.

Anyway, let's start the pool on the 2008 KILLAR STRYM!

2008's season starts on June 1st, and those guys who don't know shit predict that it will be an "above-average" season.  They also suggest that rain and wind may or may not accompany what may or may not be hurricanes.  And then I saw them all running to the bank in their lab coats and hurriedly depositing their paychecks.

This year's storms:

    * Arthur
    * Bertha
    * Cristobal
    * Dolly
    * Edouard
    * Fay
    * Gustav
    * Hanna
    * Ike
    * Josephine
    * Kyle
    * Laura
    * Marco
    * Nana
    * Omar
    * Paloma
    * Rene
    * Sally
    * Teddy
    * Vicky
    * Wilfred

My money is on Cristobal, Fay, and Josephine.

Cristobal sounds like he's going to wipe out some Caribbean country.  I say Fay does a job on Florida, and Josephine will be my town-killing wildcard.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 17, 2008, 11:30:10 AM
I make 2 predictions:

1) I predict there will be no hurricanes this year.

2) If #1 fails, I predict that no hurricane will cause more than $45 (from sale of stock!) worth of damage.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on March 17, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
Now, do you take a US-centric view of #2?  Because we had some wild storms in 07, but they all hit Not In America, and nobody cares about the people who live in Not In America.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 17, 2008, 12:10:15 PM
There's places outside America?!?!

Yes, America only.

3) I predict that hurricanes will cause .332 Gooible-Rupees worth of damage outside of America (or 45 USD).

Man the dollar is really weak against the Gooible-Rupee lately.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on March 17, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
I can't help but think you're making light of mother nature!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 17, 2008, 12:50:12 PM
She will exact her revenge with 3 direct strikes of my house by hurricane in 2008.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 17, 2008, 02:16:04 PM
Gustav and Sally . . . Long Tall Sally.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Tatertots on March 17, 2008, 02:33:28 PM
Josephine!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
Nana's gonna turn into a huge bitch, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Cassander on March 28, 2008, 04:59:02 AM
Why can't we all agree to name hurricanes in memoriam after dead celebrities?  that way we won't feel as bad.

Hurricane heath leveled san antonio today, but man....what a body of work!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on May 18, 2008, 02:50:48 PM
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Contrary to the widespread view that a warming world will bring more hurricanes, a controversial new study suggests the number of cyclones could actually drop in the North Atlantic.

Hurricanes have become a lightning rod for arguments over what global warming might have in store. Most researchers agree that, since 1950, the number of hurricanes forming over the Atlantic has increased, and that since at least since 1980, they have become fiercer.

Many studies have blamed the increase in Atlantic hurricanes on increasing sea-surface temperatures, which fuel the storms. However, other ocean basins have not seen a similar increase in hurricanes.
Storm predictions

Tom Knutson and colleagues at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory in Princeton, US, built a computer model to simulate the formation of North Atlantic hurricanes, based on observed sea-surface temperatures and atmospheric conditions.

Tropical storms and hurricanes formed spontaneously in the model, following much the same tracks as real storms do.

They also found that the model predicted fairly closely the number of North Atlantic hurricanes over the past 25 years with 162 predicted storms, as opposed to 143 recorded. The strength of the most severe storms was not predicted, however.

Next they fed the model predictions of how Atlantic waters are likely to warm with climate change.

These were based on an ensemble of climate models in which emissions rise until mid-century, then start to taper off an optimistic scenario for future carbon-dioxide emissions. Though emissions drop off, the ocean would continue warming through the end of the century and beyond.
Fewer hurricanes

Surprisingly, the model simulated fewer tropical storms as the ocean warmed, and fewer hurricanes. By the end of this century, it predicted, the Atlantic will see a drop in tropical storms of 27%, and a drop in hurricanes of 18%.

"This study does not support the idea there is a large increasing trend [in hurricanes] due to greenhouse warming," says Knutson.

The model also predicted that the fewer hurricanes that do emerge will become slightly stronger on average, but Knutson is cautious about this finding. "We don't want to take it quantitatively too seriously because it's not simulating stronger storms very well," he says.

Nonetheless, he adds, "it gives more support to the idea that in the tropics in general, hurricanes will be slightly more intense and have more rainfall."

Other researchers are sceptical about drawing any big conclusions from the study, pointing to the fact that the model did not produce any really strong hurricanes, of category four or five, in either the 20th century or in the coming century.
Low resolution

This "is a major shortcoming," says Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, US.

"In this study there is a suggestion that the strongest storms increase, but the model never simulates them in the first place," Trenberth says. "It could be grossly in error for the strongest storms, which are the ones that do most damage."

Kerry Emanuel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, US agrees. "My only reservation is that the model's spatial resolution is still too low to allow for intense hurricanes," she says.

In a recent study with higher resolution, but simpler models, Emanuel and colleagues also found an increase in hurricanes' intensities in the northern hemisphere.

Journal reference: Nature Geoscience (DOI: 10.1038/ngeo202)
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: fajwat on May 19, 2008, 11:46:58 AM
You have no idea how much mileage I've gotten out of "My friend calls it a convenient truth."
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2008, 09:45:49 AM
You have no idea how much mileage I've gotten out of "My friend calls it a convenient truth."

Cool summers and warm winters?  What more could a native Washingtonian ask for?
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 20, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
I'm with Nacho here. 60s and 70s all summer? Perfect.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: fajwat on May 20, 2008, 03:45:45 PM
See?  I bet that "convenient truth" line has gotten me laid.  It's that lovable.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Cassander on May 20, 2008, 09:35:11 PM
What if Ike hits on Election Day?
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2008, 10:49:44 PM
Then McCain wins.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 31, 2008, 04:47:50 PM
RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!

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Tropical Storm Arthur forms near Belize coast

MIAMI - The first storm of the 2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season has formed near the coast of Belize.

The National Hurricane Center says Tropical Storm Arthur formed Saturday afternoon and is already moving inland.

The Mexican government has issued a tropical storm warning from Catoche south to the border with Belize, and tropical storm conditions are expected within six to 12 hours.

At 1 p.m. EDT the storm's center is located about 45 miles north-northwest of Belize City. Maximum sustained winds are near 40 miles per hour.

The storm is expected to weaken Saturday as it moves over land.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on May 31, 2008, 05:13:59 PM
Haha!  I was going to post the "No cyclones at this time" pic at midnight, which is when the season begins.  But, yeah, this popped up today as a possible storm.

It's going to burn out quickly, so one down and we haven't even started yet.  This will be a good year.  Get the popcorn, umbrellas, unburied corpses, and untended government rotten food drops ready!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 06, 2008, 07:44:22 PM
Bertha!  Currently wandering around the Atlantic as a tropical storm.  Five day warnings have it heading towards Bermuda by Friday.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 06, 2008, 09:38:09 PM
Big Bertha!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
And Bertha is our first hurricane of the season!

It's not going to go anywhere... Though CNN hopes otherwise ("but hurricanes are unpredictable and their routes often change during a forecast period").
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: fajwat on July 07, 2008, 10:35:10 AM
hurrican't
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 07, 2008, 04:54:29 PM
So I just got back from NOLA.

Almost 3 years later, some parts are just amazing.

The lower 9th ward is still mostly just grass.  Eerie lots with just foundations, or just steps.

Where we were working (Capital City) there are huge deserted/destroyed housing projects.  The people there say that is one of the hidden blessings...crime has dropped dramatically in that area.

It was quite an experience.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2008, 05:06:02 PM
It's sickening is what it is. 

But, yeah, at least the chances of some kid dropping a trashcan full of water on your head have gone down.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 08, 2008, 10:11:45 AM
Bertha is at Cat 3, but expected to blow itself out by tomorrow.  Snore.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2008, 12:42:48 PM
Bertha's down to Cat 1.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on July 10, 2008, 12:47:47 PM
Bertha's down to Cat 1.

We need some good hurricanes, man!  This state is friggin bone dry... we need about 4 weeks of torrential downpour.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 10, 2008, 01:47:52 PM
Really? Today's an exception, but it's been soupy as hell up here. Humid, thunderstroms . . . horrible.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2008, 01:48:25 PM
Welcome to DC!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on July 10, 2008, 01:50:54 PM
Yeah... our lakes are ridiculous.  4 people drowned at Lanier last weekend (it's Atlanta's main water reserve).  The lake is down about 19 feet or so from normal levels and 2 people drowned trying to get their boats off sand bars and the other two went because they couldn't swim and thought the water was shallower than it is.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2008, 01:53:25 PM
I never understood people who couldn't swim.  Everybody can swim.  I can't swim, but I can keep afloat and dog paddle to safety.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Tatertots on July 10, 2008, 02:37:47 PM
Ah, natural selection.

Does fat float or sink?
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: fajwat on July 10, 2008, 03:29:56 PM
muscle sinks.  fat floats.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 16, 2008, 12:15:57 PM
I leave for NOLA tomorrow morning.

With that in mind, a tropical depression has just formed in the Gulf and will be heading northeast tomorrow.  Just in time for my trip!

Also, another depression is forming off the coast of Belize.

Nobody knows what Bertha's doing.  A whole bunch of nothing, apparently.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 20, 2008, 09:58:00 AM
Cristobal forms and angles towards the Carolinas!  Meanwhile, what will be dolly is heading into the Gulf over the next few days, and there's another forming right behind Cristobal.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 20, 2008, 12:34:48 PM
They come . . .
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 21, 2008, 04:15:55 PM
Dolly's the big story today. Hurricane watch in Texas.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on July 21, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
Oh, snore.  Texas. 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 04, 2008, 10:10:29 AM
Edouard!  They don't think it'll make hurricane strength (or it'll jsut hit Cat 1) by the time it hits Texas tomorrow.  Another snore!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 25, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
Fay flooded Florida.  No one cares.

Enter:  Gustav!  Currently messing around down there in all that island stuff in that ocean place.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on August 25, 2008, 04:11:03 PM
It's been overcast and windy here for 3 days... we've had virtually no rain.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 25, 2008, 04:14:36 PM
Time for prayer!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 26, 2008, 10:18:47 AM
Gustav goes Hurricane, and should hit Cuba by Friday.  Then it'll drift into open water by Saturday where it can freak out again and plow for the coast of our United States.  Fun times!

Meanwhile, NOAA is watching three potential storms which look to be on their way to visit Florida.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on August 26, 2008, 10:54:18 AM
I woke up this morning to find that our back yard is a lake.  I love this shit!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 26, 2008, 03:54:47 PM
Gustav hits Haiti at Cat 2! 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 26, 2008, 04:56:52 PM
Zombies are flying thorugh the air.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2008, 07:26:58 AM
Eyewitness fun!

http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,3747.0.html

Gustav was quietly nasty to Haiti. 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2008, 01:31:24 PM
Weather Underground has Gustav heading smack dab for NOLA by 8am Monday.  But they're sensationalists.  NOAA says it's unpredictable after it hits Cuba on Saturday. 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on August 27, 2008, 01:51:20 PM
All I know is that it's been raining here for 3 days now and I fucking love a big, fat, lazy-ass hurricane slash tropical depression.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2008, 02:08:34 PM
We desperately need rain up here.  Were supposed to get it today, but now it's off.  Rain's off! 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
Enter Hanna!  Veering towards Florida now.  Due to wander around near the Bahamas late Sunday.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 28, 2008, 01:08:34 PM
I hope Hanna and Gustav hook-up over the gulf and have a baby hurricane.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
NHC is issuing an advisory on Hurricane Love Child.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 28, 2008, 01:33:15 PM
Gustav will break up over Texas leaving Hanna to deal with the baby 'cane on her own.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2008, 01:42:34 PM
Typical.  Always just full of wind, eh?
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2008, 05:21:20 PM
Jamaica's getting the shit kicked out of it as Gustav becomes a hurricane again.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2008, 10:56:19 AM
Gustav prepares to hit Cuba at Cat 3.  Commies panic.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: fajwat on August 30, 2008, 01:16:50 PM
and detainees.  I suppose they hear about it somehow.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2008, 01:18:29 PM
Yeah, when all the guards leave for inland towns just ahead of the storm surge.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2008, 10:56:43 PM
This is all knee-jerk, in my opinion, but shit has gone insane:

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Mayor: 'Get out of New Orleans right now'

Everything moves to this thread here:

http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,3747.0.html
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2008, 01:17:06 PM
Okay, that's Gustav done.  Hanna is just acting like a drunk.  Four potential problems headed our way right now (one just became TD #9). 
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2008, 03:00:25 PM
Hanna's a hurricane again!  Just a Cat 1, but she's gonna fuck with the Bahamas.  But the Brits foolishly held on to the Bahamas instead of selling them to us, so who cares?  Because we're at war with them.

I mean!  Sorry!  I mean they're allies and we love them.  Goddamn city-burning invaders.

Then Hanna's going to go mess up Florida, which doesn't matter because the Spanish refused to sell it to us.

Right?

Then...up through GA, SC, NC, and, finally, ending in WVA, where Hanna'll cause more loss of life than in the Bahamas because every single town in WVA is on a flood plain and the dams are all 70 years old.  But, sshh, it's not a crisis till after it happens.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on September 01, 2008, 06:12:05 PM
Ike's right behind Hanna as well... FUN!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2008, 08:19:18 PM
Yep.  And another behind Ike is about to form.  High probability.  And two others in front of Ike, actually, who could form into storms.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: saintangelsin on September 01, 2008, 11:03:11 PM
Hanna's a hurricane again!  Just a Cat 1, but she's gonna fuck with the Bahamas.  But the Brits foolishly held on to the Bahamas instead of selling them to us, so who cares?  Because we're at war with them.

I mean!  Sorry!  I mean they're allies and we love them.  Goddamn city-burning invaders.

Then Hanna's going to go mess up Florida, which doesn't matter because the Spanish refused to sell it to us.

Right?

Then...up through GA, SC, NC, and, finally, ending in WVA, where Hanna'll cause more loss of life than in the Bahamas because every single town in WVA is on a flood plain and the dams are all 70 years old.  But, sshh, it's not a crisis till after it happens.

It's funny you mention West Virginia possibly getting shit on by a hurricane or tropical storm. (I really hope Hannah doesn't do that) All my years growing up, the one thing everyone in Western Maryland and in the nearby parts of WV have dreaded a lot with Hurricane season is that there would be a repeat of the Great Flood of 1985. I'm sure you've heard about this one or maybe remember it... Back in November of 85, a nasty nasty flood happened thanks to a dead hurricane system (Hurricane Juan). Though I don't remember it (because I was just an infant), my parents sure as hell do. Luckily, we weren't effected badly like many were. But god that flood just about damn near destroyed the entire Mountain state!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Juan_(1985)

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Waters-Great-Virginia-Flood/dp/0929915240 (my parents have this book. There's this crazy photo of this cow stuck in the bottom of this bridge near Moorefield)

You can also find on youtube all sorts of video clips from the flood.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on September 03, 2008, 11:32:27 AM
Just got this email from one of my old English professors.  He does a lot of charity work in Haiti and takes students on service trips there every year... one of his friends in Haiti sent this report.  It's pretty heart wrenching.

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My internet is still working but I do not know for how long and How long the weither will hold it.
I has been raining over Haiti for the last 24 hours. Sometime like a shower with a good pressure sometime its stops for while to start again. In Port au Prince we had a brake around lunch but then the light became very strange and we had some wind. I was so scarry that people started to run in the meedle of the streetes and some drivers started to go in the wrong direction in one way streetes.
I was coming from the office where I had been doing some administrative work and the security came to tell us to move our cars from under the trees I decided to go home and as I was driving in the stress trying to avoid areas with trees. I strated to be scare of hiting pedestrians or being hit by other.. Finally between tree, electrical and phone wires and poles I made it to Hopital la Communaute to see two emergencies. As I was there one of the nurses got a call from a nurse IN Gonaive Crying because she was on a roof with her parents and water had reached them.It is terrible people are calling from all over the country about flood and house being carried away. We never expected that tropical strom to just stand just on the Island just a week after Gustave had spent 18 hours on us.
Hanna just stop, At five AM it was moving at 2 miles an hours and by 3 pm  it had stop.right on Tuck and Cacos Island . Those Islands are so close to the northwest that people go there on saleboat from Port-de-Paix.
The whole Island is under rain and the north has also the winds
It is flooded from Jeremie to Port-de Paix > I talked to Jacques this Morning around ten they were under heavyrain and wind.in Saint Louis du Nord He said all the Banana three were on the ground.
THis means that next month people will be more hungry. In Chansolme THe rivers flooded and carriied away houses. My secretary in the St Marc office call me an hour ago to tell me that his street was starting to be flooded. Rapport are coming in from all over' flood and still raining'.. The worse is in Gonaive were they already had three meters ( 10 feets) this lunch. People are on roof tops of two level houses.
PLEASE START PRAYING FOR US AND WITH US as soon as you get this. Start chains of prayers it is still raining on ue and IKe is not far behind . My heart is bleeding with every drop on rain. We never know in Haiti really how many pleople are taken by the water. And it happen anywhere because people lack of information. Last week the lady that sells artichock to my vegetable vendor was taken by water in the mountains by POrt-au-Prince by a flash flood going down the hill.
I am safe at Home listening to the rain in the dark. We have baterries, and generators, i am on top of a hill but if it keeps on raininng there will be mud slides with houses around the city.
For people that know the geographics
 - Cayes
- Gonaives
- The area around Jeremie
- Some parts of St Marc
- The airport in Port-de-Paix
- Jacmel was already flooded last week
- The road to the DR and some part on le cul de sac were already flooded since last week
This was from lunch knew
Pierre Payen on the way to St Marc from this morning
And it is still raining.
PLEASE PRAY
Brigitte
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 03, 2008, 11:38:06 AM
Well, some good news.  Ike is planned to veer away from Haiti.  Cuba's going to get it head-on, though.

Then there's Josephine!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 05, 2008, 06:01:24 PM
Hanna's going to be awesome, because I'm sick and I don't want to have to focus at work tomorrow.  9-5 wedding...but Hanna is moving in early AM and sticking throughout the day -- 2-3 inches of rain and winds gusting to 30mph.  I'm going to go to work an hour early, close up the house and tent, then lie down in an upstairs office while 120 people pack into the place and bitch and cry.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: saintangelsin on September 06, 2008, 07:40:52 PM
Ike is now a cat 4 hurricane, and they're pretty sure he's going for the Gulf of Mexico. Sounds like this coming week is going to be major fun for everyone in the South.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 06, 2008, 07:54:47 PM
Cass gets to drive all the way back to Atlanta again!


At least Josephine fizzled out.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 08, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
Ah, good.  Cuba is going to change Ike's course.  It's going to go kill Texas now.  Which is fine.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on September 08, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
Well, I just spent all day Saturday sitting in the middle of West Virginia as it got pounded by Hanna... fun.  We literally did nothing all day... stuffed inside the RV like a bunch of sardines.  I did read almost all of the Rolling Stones book Cass loaned me though.

So now Ike!  I guess they might be on their way back to ATL, eh?  We've got Rock Band all warmed up!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 08, 2008, 02:23:18 PM
Nah, Ike's veering towards Texas.
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: Nubbins on September 10, 2008, 11:43:33 AM
Yo Cass... if Ike takes a right hander and looks like it's going to hit NOLA, we just downloaded an assload of new music for Rock Band!  WOOOO!  BRING IT!
Title: Re: 2008 Hurrican't Season: Nobody cares, but it's kind of a tradition
Post by: nacho on September 10, 2008, 12:08:20 PM
Not in any of the estimates, though.  Ike's going for southern Texas.
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Post by: fajwat on September 10, 2008, 12:10:22 PM
Nubbs is totally psyched for some more hot rock band action with Cass!

Told you they were great guests.
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Post by: Tatertots on September 10, 2008, 12:31:25 PM
Isn't that how most por-- oh, nevermind.
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Post by: nacho on September 11, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
We don't care about Texas -- but Houston's freaking out as Ike approaches. 
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Post by: Nubbins on September 11, 2008, 05:18:36 PM
Houston, we have a hurricane!
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Post by: nacho on September 11, 2008, 05:21:19 PM
Breaking News:  Texans flee Houston upon suddenly realizing that they were living in Houston!
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Post by: Nubbins on September 11, 2008, 05:27:07 PM
Jesus Christ, honey!  We've been in Texas this entire time!?!?!
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 09:48:22 AM
Haha!  CNN quoting the National Weather Service out of context:

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Warning: Ike may bring 'certain death'

The weather service is referring to bayside homes in Galveston facing a 22 foot storm surge.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 12, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
I love the word "may".  Ranks right up there with "up to" in wishy-washosity.

"May cause death!  Also, may not!"

"Savings of up to 40%!  Or down to 0%!"
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Post by: Cassander on September 12, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Just saw the press conference with Bush.  Now I know what it takes to completely wipe the smirk off his face: a hurricane headed straight for his favorite state.
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 12:07:14 PM
It may cause certain death?! 

I will probably definitely quote that!
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 12:11:07 PM
Okay, somebody needs to stop CNN:

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'Certain death' Ike pushes sea into Galveston

It...what? 
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 12, 2008, 12:15:42 PM
Couldn't it just push C into AT and make something warm and cuddly?
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 12:18:25 PM
hahaha!


Sea......at.   Sea.....at.  Sea...at.  (https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greatsociety.org%2Fuploads%2Fuserfiles%2F3%2Fcatgif.gif&hash=0ba77ef2ceaac06edcf8e6cbea4ee52d)
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 12:23:41 PM
Hurricane Ike just went category cuddly
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Post by: Tatertots on September 12, 2008, 12:26:25 PM
What the fuck is up with CNN?

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yIKEs, it's coming!

That's their front page headline. Front. Page.
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
Holy fuck... That one's worth preserving.

(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greatsociety.org%2Fuploads%2Fuserfiles%2F3%2Fyikes.JPG&hash=c90001967971e8bbd757b2aa8a3173b3)
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 12:39:11 PM
Fuck that storm is HUGE
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
Fuck that storm is HUGE

yIKEs!
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Post by: Tatertots on September 12, 2008, 12:40:29 PM
What are their TV broadcasts like?

Up next, 100s dead in earthquake! *honk fart burp bbrrrraaappppp*
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 12:41:32 PM
In between ads for Cockpuncher!

(I can't see this at work)
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/08/votd-steven-seagals-cockpuncher-movie-trailer/
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 01:44:40 PM
A little better...

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Texans wait for Ike's 22-foot wall of fury
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
We're not the only ones slamming CNN's idiot headlines:

http://blog.rifftrax.com/2008/09/12/hurricane-yikes/
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 02:01:01 PM
They've gone passive and vague.

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Thick, muddy waves nearly overtaking Texas pier

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La. Gov. Jindal has updates on what Ike is doing to his state
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Post by: saintangelsin on September 12, 2008, 02:19:39 PM
One thing I've always heard broadcast  journalism students at my school complain about is writing. I find it pretty sad that they don't realize that you need good writing skills to do television news. Sure for print journalists, writing skills is all we have. Without them, you're totally screwed. But whoever thought being on  major news networks meant no writing skills are needed should be punched in the guts or something.

I've watched CNN at times and have seen so many typos and spelling errors scroll across the bottom of the screen. MSNBC has had quite a few recently too. While I don't want Fox, I should make myself watch them for a few hours to see if they have better grammar and spelling skills. I highly doubt it, but it would be funny to find out.

As for the tasteless and pun driven headline that CNN posted, it really doesn't surprise me. I'll be honest, headline writing is difficult and there is an art to it. But knowing CNN, they either had some intern attempt their skills at headlining or someone with a bad sense of humor wrote the headline. (Most times news writers don't do their own headlines, even if they created one.  Editors will change them or have a headline writer do it.)

On the same topic of gripping about this awful headline, there's such a competition these days to be clever with the news that good reporting and writing gets ignored often. In reality, the reason anything that you've read or seen might come across as really good and clever is because it was unintentional. It's something that will just naturally come through the article if the story's subject permits it.


ps- I think I'm going to try to email a copy of that graphic/headline to Howard Kurtz at the Washington Post. He's got to say something about this in his media column.
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Post by: Cassander on September 12, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
they're going overboard here now.  schools are closing early.  but the tropical winds started late last night...why let them go to school in the first place if you were thinking about shutting down? 
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 02:25:31 PM
One thing I've always heard broadcast  journalism students at my school complain about is writing. I find it pretty sad that they don't realize that you need good writing skills to do television news. Sure for print journalists, writing skills is all we have. Without them, you're totally screwed. But whoever thought being on  major news networks meant no writing skills are needed should be punched in the guts or something.

I would argue that most of print journalism sucks, as well.  I need a red pen to read the Washington Post, and few other newspapers are better.

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I've watched CNN at times and have seen so many typos and spelling errors scroll across the bottom of the screen. MSNBC has had quite a few recently too. While I don't want Fox, I should make myself watch them for a few hours to see if they have better grammar and spelling skills. I highly doubt it, but it would be funny to find out.

Lots of the scroll stuff is done with computers snatching feeds from the wires.  It was part of my job, once upon a time, to dump all that shit into the hopper for the super computers to chew up.


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Post by: saintangelsin on September 12, 2008, 02:34:38 PM
Oh I'm not saying that print journalists are great. Believe me, I know the need for a red pen. I even struggle at times with editing my own  stuff. Once you read something over and over, little stupid mistakes become tricky to catch. What I was trying to say is that you think print is bad, broadcast are even worse and here's why (referring to my previous posting). At least print journalists know that good writing is something to aspire towards. With broadcast journalism students, it seems like they could barely give a shit about even aspiring towards mediocre writing.

As for the scroll stuff, I didn't realize it was computers snatching things from wires. (Did you work for the AP or something?) With wires, I think the downside to having "instant" information or news is that it's all about speed. A story written right off the bat is going to be awful looking or  have typos. I think that's why I like the idea of newspaper or magazine journalism a little better because at least you have more than 5 minutes to edit a story. But the upside of instant stuff is that online it can be corrected throughout the day and changed in real time. Where as in print, once you print a fuck up, well you have to issue a correction statement and sometimes an apology.

Crazy to think I want to do this stuff for a living.
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Post by: Tatertots on September 12, 2008, 03:25:24 PM
Broadcast journalism is a terrifying wasteland of death and pain and torture and emptiness.
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
beach full of retards.
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 03:38:14 PM

(Did you work for the AP or something?)

Yep!
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 04:09:50 PM
yyyyep.
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Post by: saintangelsin on September 12, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
Broadcast journalism is a terrifying wasteland of death and pain and torture and emptiness.

I agree with you about that, but I doubt working for NPR or PBS would be that bad. Same about the Daily show. (Yes I do get some of my news from watching Stewart and Colbert...)

Oh and Nubbins, is that a dude in a bear suite standing behind that newscaster? I mean this photo wasn't photoshopped for comedy sake right?
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Post by: Nubbins on September 12, 2008, 04:28:32 PM
I have no idea... I am assuming that the photo is an undoctored screencap.
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Post by: nacho on September 12, 2008, 04:33:29 PM
That's what I would do if I were weathering a hurricane.  Go out and fuck with all the reporters.
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Post by: Nubbins on September 17, 2008, 05:21:49 PM
Some incredible Ike photographs are here: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html
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Post by: nacho on September 17, 2008, 05:35:59 PM
I love The Big Picture...one of my favorite blogs.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 18, 2008, 11:23:27 AM
Freaky! (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html#photo24)
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Post by: nacho on September 30, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
Kyle sucked.

But here comes Laura... She's gonna hit Sunday.  It's bad news...for...uh...the UK, actually.  Go figure.  She's due to make landfall in the north of Scotland late Saturday night.  FEMA is on standby!