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Taken for Granite => Intensive Porpoises => Topic started by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 01:35:31 PM

Title: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 01:35:31 PM
I was reading about Roland Emmerich's new apocalypse movie, which is called "2012" and should be out next year, and this led me to:

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2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order

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The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed. However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. The 2012 Winter Solstice will also occur on this day at 11:11 UTC.

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The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.

Other things that may or will happen:

The sun will reverse it's poles (this is a normal thing it cycles through every 11 years)

The sort of crypto-archeology set that thinks the Earth also reverses its magnetic poles over a much longer period of time says that 2012 is when this will happen.  There is currently movement of our magnetic poles -- 1100 kilometers in the last 100 years.  If the poles continue to shift at their current rate, the northern lights will vanish in about 50 years and magnetic north will drop below Alaska.  (So the "northern" lights will really start to appear much further south, like over central Europe and the US).

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The Earth last went through a magnetic reversal some 780,000 years ago. These episodic reversals, in which south becomes north and vice versa, take thousands of years and are the result of complex changes in the Earth's outer core.

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"There is a lot of variability in the polar motion," Stoner pointed out, "but it isn't something that occurs often. There appears to be a 'jerk' of the magnetic field that takes place every 500 years or so. The bottom line is that geomagnetic changes can be a lot more abrupt than we ever thought."

Shifts in the North Magnetic Pole are of interest beyond the scientific community. Radiation influx is associated with the magnetic field, and charged particles streaming down through the atmosphere can affect airplane flights and telecommunications.

And some from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 20, 2008, 01:38:04 PM
A lot of crazies are talking about 2012.

2014 is where it's REALLY at though.

But, yeah, that whole pole shifting thing has been threatening for a while. Which could actually be what's causing the weather changes, because, of course, it'll mess up the weather for a while.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 01:51:59 PM
And, since we've only been measuring it for 400 years, we have no idea what will really happen. 

Nothing is set to happen in 2014!  You want to know where it's at?  2015.  ITER goes live.  Kaboom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

And Voyager 1 is due to finally leave the influence of the sun.  So once it moves past the heliopause, the aliens will take notice.



Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Tatertots on February 20, 2008, 01:55:11 PM
2012 is the apocalypse! Just like 1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2007...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 02:02:16 PM
Yeah but, in this case, it really is when the Mayan calender ends (which doesn't necessarily mean apocalypse).  So 2012 has been a date long wondered about.  What did the Mayans expect to happen? 

I'm not saying OH GOD APOCALYPSE!  But, like 1000AD, there will be a hefty amount of apocalypse psychosis.  With Y2K it was all, whee, no computers.  Fight Club stuff.  But with 2012, lots of people believe it'll be the year we snuff it.

Frequently (and just yesterday), I talk to these shrinks on the phone who talk about the coming end times.  Some lady yesterday mentioned 2012. 

Yes, these people are nuts.  But I'm hearing more shit from these retards than I did from the Y2K nuts.  The threat isn't some weird end times thing.  The threat is from the people who believe it and take a meat cleaver to my skull on the ride home New Years Eve.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 20, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
And, since we've only been measuring it for 400 years, we have no idea what will really happen. 

Nothing is set to happen in 2014!  You want to know where it's at?  2015.  ITER goes live.  Kaboom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

And Voyager 1 is due to finally leave the influence of the sun.  So once it moves past the heliopause, the aliens will take notice.





EVerything is set for 2014.

Just you wait and see!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Nubbins on February 20, 2008, 09:45:41 PM
Wait, I knew Earth's poles switched, but I thought it was something that took hundreds of thousands of years to occur, not like a light switch.  Just sort of an oscillation over time.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 20, 2008, 09:46:18 PM
Maybe I talk to too many hippies, but I see the 2012 "paradigm shift" as a positive thing. A lot of pagan/new age folks believe it's the year that the universal consciousness shifts into balance and humanity begins to achieve it's full spiritual potential.

Or zombies could wipe us all out.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Nubbins on February 20, 2008, 09:52:04 PM
I find the 1 in 45,000 chance that a random 880 megaton explosion may happen kind of frightening.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Nubbins on February 20, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
doh, wrong thread.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 10:05:18 PM
Wait, I knew Earth's poles switched, but I thought it was something that took hundreds of thousands of years to occur, not like a light switch.  Just sort of an oscillation over time.

Well, the fossil record sort of tells us it's under a million years between gradual shifts, yes.  But the truth is that we've only been measuring the shift for 400 years, and the rocks may well be lying to us.  We have no idea what's happening.  And a shift of 1100 kilometers in 100 years is significant.

Rational people don't believe it'll be like a light switch.  It's got a few tens of thousands of miles to go before it's reversed.  But we will, in our lifetime, notice some minor changes.  Like the position of the northern lights.

Where the light switch style pole shift theory comes from is this guy:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_%C3%89tienne_Brasseur_de_Bourbourg

He's one of those crackpot genius types who first delved into the whole Mayan stuff, believing, based on what the Mayans and their predecessors recorded, that there was a light-switch pole shift about 11,000 years ago that fucked up the world. 

I can dispel any serious thoughts by saying that he tied that shift to the demise of Atlantis.

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 21, 2008, 07:50:35 AM
Trust Monkey!

He will lead everybody into the light.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: fajwat on February 21, 2008, 02:30:15 PM
Trust Monkey!

He will lead everybody into the light.

God's anus eagerly awaits monkey!'s visit to heaven.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 21, 2008, 03:29:13 PM
Trust Monkey!

He will lead everybody into the light.

God's anus eagerly awaits monkey!'s visit to heaven.

I bet he does.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Matt on February 23, 2008, 12:54:03 PM
Monkey's light is so...weak.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 24, 2008, 09:02:56 AM
Monkey's light is so...weak.

But the light I'm leading you towards will be like... the best evAR!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2008, 03:53:55 PM
Now you sound like Tyson.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Tatertots on February 24, 2008, 07:24:39 PM
Wait, what?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: fajwat on February 24, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
what?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
Huh?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 25, 2008, 10:11:37 AM
Now you sound like Tyson.

Matt: Monkey, when I think of giant lego towers, I think of your penis.

Monkey: Gay.

Matt: Monkey, you sound like Tyson.

Everybody: Huh?

Matt: Monkey loves me.

Everybody: ....

Matt: Why don't girls love me?

Everybody: *logs off*
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 25, 2008, 02:31:53 PM
This conversation is somehow appropriate for a doomsday thread.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2008, 11:14:45 AM
Oh!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm

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Life from Venus blown to Earth?

Neat!

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Previous research has considered the possibility of micro organisms existing in Venus's atmosphere despite extreme temperatures on its surface.

Okay.

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They suggest that under certain conditions, these microbes from high in Venus's atmosphere could be blown into the Earth's atmosphere.

Uh-oh!

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But the Sun, Earth and Venus must be suitably aligned, which last happened in 2004 and will not happen again until 2012.

Oh shit!

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 29, 2008, 11:41:01 AM
All signs point to "Oh Shit!"
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2008, 11:56:38 AM
Venus microbes are going to take us over!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 29, 2008, 12:02:36 PM
Zombie Apocolypse. NOTLD can't be wrong.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Matt on July 29, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
Well, last time Venus and Earth aligned we elected Bush for a second term, so if history is any indicator, we'll have another terrible disaster.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2008, 12:26:25 PM
Bush is a Venusian. 
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 29, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
Ahhh!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORT

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an important element of the new strategic relationship between the United States and Russia".[1] with both parties agreeing to limit their nuclear arsenal to 1700–2200 operationally deployed warheads each. It was signed in Moscow on May 24, 2002. SORT came into force on June 1, 2003 after the Bush-Putin ratification in St. Petersburg, and expires in December 31, 2012.

Oh, wait, that's good.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 18, 2008, 09:46:28 PM
Trailer for Roland Emmerich's 2012 movie about the end of the world.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810045661/video/10728038
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on November 18, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
is this just the Y2K thread with a different title?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 19, 2008, 12:43:58 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on November 19, 2008, 07:35:48 AM
Just wait till 2222 when all the elevator certificates run out!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on November 19, 2008, 10:15:19 AM
oh christ!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 04, 2009, 02:59:46 PM
NUBBINS SHALL BE KING!!!!

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This is a pretty fascinating story about a set of granite slabs erected in Georgia that contain ten instructions for the reconstruction of society after a coming apocalypse.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_guidestones/

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 04, 2009, 03:14:56 PM
NUBBINS SHALL BE KING!!!!

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This is a pretty fascinating story about a set of granite slabs erected in Georgia that contain ten instructions for the reconstruction of society after a coming apocalypse.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_guidestones/



That is fascinating.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 04, 2009, 03:23:34 PM
Road trip!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Sirharles on May 04, 2009, 03:43:47 PM
I was just thinking that!  Did you see this other article that was linked to it.  Nothing to do with the stones, but still interesting.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Nubbins on May 04, 2009, 05:00:41 PM
Holy shit!!!  How have I never heard of this thing before?!  I need to get the bike working again so I can wander out to see these things.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on May 06, 2009, 12:18:05 PM
It has begun!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 18, 2009, 07:10:36 PM
This is going to become the Roland Emmerich movie thread for a while.

New trailer for 2012 the movie. It made me think back to when the trailer for Independence Day really blew my mind. Not that this had the same effect mind you.

http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/14045569/standardformat
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Reginald McGraw on June 19, 2009, 11:22:13 AM
The effects are amazing.  This looks very good.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 19, 2009, 11:42:26 AM
I'm a sucker for this stuff anyway, of course.  But it does look like fun.  Are those spaceship arcs that the government is building?  There's almost a silver age sci-fi feel to this, eh?  Like something from the pulp mags in the 40's and 50's.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 19, 2009, 03:34:21 PM
To me it feels more The Day After Tomorrow than Independence Day.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 19, 2009, 03:42:40 PM
I secretly enjoyed Day After Tomorrow.  But, yeah, I think it's unavoidable that we're going to get More of The Same.  However, it looks like there's more of a survivor-focus here.  Yeah, we had the kid and the dad in Day After Tomorrow, and lots of glum people accepting the inevitable, but we didn't really care.  This looks more like 90% kill, then 10% run for your life.

(Which, by the way, is why I also secretly like the updated War of the Worlds.)
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 19, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
I secretly liked Speilberg's WotW too.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Nubbins on June 19, 2009, 04:50:20 PM
Oh hell yeah, me too.  I thought it was great.  I didn't really like Day After Tomorrow though... not sure why.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 19, 2009, 07:55:33 PM
My wife and I laughed through The Day Afer Tomorrow though it indeed had a few cool moments.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2009, 09:45:34 AM
Oh, yes, it was laughable.  No doubt of that.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Tatertots on June 24, 2009, 03:05:25 AM
2012's trailer was just exhausting. I mean, Christ, I love good mindless thrillers but there's a line that has to be drawn somewhere.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2009, 07:10:25 AM
2012's trailer was just exhausting. I mean, Christ, I love good mindless thrillers but there's a line that has to be drawn somewhere.

It is like something you'd see in a comedy.  Like those fake trailers ahead of Tropic Thunder.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on June 24, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
why do john cusack's "safe" movies always suck?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2009, 08:51:18 PM
Because he also has monthly bills.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on June 24, 2009, 08:53:49 PM
icebarn.gif!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 16, 2010, 12:50:20 PM
I subscribe to this idiot conspiracy site in Google Reader.  You know -- Bigfoot, and photos of orbs, and so on.

So this is up today.  Let's see of they're right over the next two years:



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Ask around and you'll hear this over and over again: People are concerned about what might be coming. They're concerned about a global financial collapse, an ecological crisis and potential disruptions in the food supply. The radical weather patterns now being witnessed across the world are further indication that something's wrong with the world we thought we knew.

But what's really going to happen between now and 2012? Is there any way to take an educated guess about which challenges are most likely to appear?

That's what I've done here in this collection of thirty-six predictions for 2010 - 2012. So here's what I see coming in 2010 - 2012. This is based on "educated guesses" about where current trends may lead us. This is not some sort of psychic prediction exercise; it's based entirely on observation and forward thinking.

By the way, if these predictions seem too pessimistic, be sure to read the bottom of this article which talks about the upside of what will happen after these next few years. Ultimately, there is good news ahead...

#1 - Worldwide shortage of rare earth metals

The world depends on Rare Earth Metals (REMs) to manufacture everything from electric motors to solar panels and computer parts. Expect a global shortage to hit hard over the next three years.

#2 - Food supply disruptions hit western nations

There will be one or more serious disruptions in the food supply that will wake up Americans to the possibility that their food may not be as secure or plentiful as they had imagined. While this could take the form of a crop disease that spreads across corn or wheat farms, it's more likely to involve radical weather patterns that destroy crops and limit food supply.

#3 - Deadly superbug mutation goes wild

A deadly superbug will escape the hospital and get into the "wild" -- meaning it starts to infect everyday people, perhaps being transmitted through gyms or schools. A review of what led to the escape will point to abuse of antibiotics and failure of hospital staff to wash their hands.

#4 - New evidence links vaccines and neurological disorders

New evidence will emerge linking vaccines to neurological disorders such as Alzheimer's disease. This evidence may point to the chemical adjuvants used in vaccines which cause an inflammatory response in the body. The vaccine industry, of course, will deny any such link, but evidence will mount that points to the link.

#5 - U.S. power grid suffers catastrophic failure

At some point over the next three years, the U.S. power grid will suffer a catastrophic regional failure that puts tens of millions of people in the dark. The power grid is a fragile system just waiting to be brought down by cascading failures. It will be repaired relatively quickly (perhaps in 72 hours), but its failure will leave many people on edge and cause a rush of business at preparedness retailers.

#6 - Satellite breakdown

There will be a huge failure in one or more key communications satellites, causing widespread disruptions in telecomm services, including those serving emergency and law enforcement organizations. Likely causes: Space debris, solar flares or deliberate targeting by land-to-space rockets. (China may even begin to shoot down U.S. satellites if a military confrontation breaks out, see below...)

#7 - GM crop contamination leads to crisis

Somewhere in North America, the contamination of crops with genetically modified DNA or seeds will flare into a crop crisis (and perhaps even crop failures). Tensions between affected farmers and seed corporations like Monsanto will escalate, and new public attention will be drawn to the problem of GM crops. (As a side note, new evidence will also emerge linking GM foods to internal organ damage in laboratory animals...)

#8 - Honeybee population collapse spreads to other species

The Colony Collapse Disorder now striking honeybee populations will not only get worse in honeybees; it will also spread to other species including amphibians. Bird watchers will record an alarming decline in bird populations throughout North America, and scientists will note a disturbing trend in the loss of species diversity in many areas.

#9 - Weather patterns become increasingly radicalized

Expect to see more flood, more earthquakes, more droughts, more heat waves and more cold spells as the world's weather patterns show increasing destabilization. Droughts will come to areas that typically see plenty of water, and too much water will appear in areas that are normally more arid. Many humans will be displaced and property damage will rise into the tens of billions of dollars. (Note, I wrote this prediction in early January, well before the recent snow storms hammered the East Coast. But there will still be many more radical weather events...)

#10 - Nuclear power sees global resurgence

The need for cheap, non-fossil power will drive more countries to embrace nuclear power as the "clean" energy source of the near future. Expect to see more nuclear power plants approved for construction. (Actually completing the construction can take a decade or more, however.)

#11 - Nuclear weapons unleashed in the Middle East

I only give this a 25% chance before the end of 2012, but it seems possible that low-yield tactical nuclear weapons could be used in a conflict in the Middle East, most likely involving Israel targeting Iran. One dangerous possibility is that conventional "bunker buster" bombs could be used to bomb Iranian nuclear processing facilities, releasing a cloud of radioactive dust that blankets the region, causing countless civilian casualties. In terms of nuclear threats, another important possibility that I predict could unfold is the theft of nuclear weapons from Pakistan by more radical forces who then use their stolen nuke weapons to threaten and destabilize the entire region.

#12 - New exotic superfood from South America emerges in western markets

There will be at least one new superfood from South America that breaks into western markets in much the same way that Acai did a few years back. It will be an herb or fruit that virtually no one in North America has heard of yet, but which has been known in the Amazon (or surrounding areas) for thousands of years. NaturalNews may, in fact, be involved in announcing this...

#13 - A high-tech, portable vitamin D sensor device is invented

The timeline may be a little short on this prediction -- I actually have more confidence of this appearing by 2016. The prediction is that a portable vitamin D sensor device will be invented. It will allow people to have their blood levels of vitamin D tested within two minutes, with either a tiny blood draw (such as with diabetic blood glucose testers) or, even better, a laser or infra-red detection technology that's non-invasive. The widespread use of such devices could revolutionize health by pinpointing people who are deficient in vitamin D. A deficiency, as you probably know, causes cancer, diabetes, obesity, heart disease, depression, osteoporosis and many other diseases. There is a good chance that the invention of such a device could be blocked by the FDA as a way to prevent this lifesaving technology from going into widespread use in the USA. Why would the FDA block this? Because if people corrected their vitamin D levels, they wouldn't buy as many pharmaceuticals and the cancer industry would all but implode.

#14 - U.S. debt gets downgraded while world investors slash purchases of U.S. debt instruments

The U.S. loses credibility in the financial world. This leads to rampant price inflation combined with currency deflation of the U.S. dollar. The U.S. government, with its debt climbing ever higher, will find itself virtually unable to sell more debt. It will then resort to printing more money to pay its own debt, which is roughly the same as using cash advances on your credit card to pay your minimum monthly debt payment on that same card. The end result will be the complete financial bankruptcy of the U.S. government well before 2025.

#15 - U.S. nearly comes to military conflict with China over natural resources

This may take a few more years beyond 2012, but by 2016, I predict a 50% chance that the U.S. will very nearly engage in military conflict with China over natural resources. The most likely candidate? Oil, of course, but natural gas or rare earth metals could also be part of this conflict. China will emerge victorious in the negotiations because it will secretly threaten to sell off U.S. debt and crash the U.S. debt ratings (see above) unless the U.S. gives in to its demands over natural resources.

#16 - Huge new scandal implicates major pharmaceutical company in scientific fraud

This is a no-brainer, actually. It's only a matter of time before Big Pharma gets caught yet again committing a felony, bribing researchers, faking clinical trial data or burying studies that it doesn't want the public to see. Expect to see another Vioxx-scale scandal unearthed, possibly from a Big Pharma whistleblower.

#17 - China unleashes armies of corporate espionage hackers onto western nations

This is already underway, actually, but it will accelerate in the next three years as China uses this new method of electronic warfare to steal corporate secrets and disrupt western society. Particularly vulnerable are DNS root servers. If they are brought down, the entire internet will effectively grind to a halt.

#18 - Medical imaging scandal unfolds as older patients begin to show serious health damage from radiation via mammograms, CT scans and more

Cancer caused by medical imaging technology is one of the "dirty little secrets" of western medicine. Expect to see more research linking medical imaging to health problems. The medical imaging industry, as usual, will try anything to suppress the evidence (this includes the mammography industry, which is already engaged in medical violence against women via medically unjustified mammography).

#19 - Another 9/11 false flag incident

Desperate to convince the people to accept more police state oppression, certain dark forces within the U.S. government will stage another large-scale false flag "terror" attack most likely involving a dirty bomb or biological weapon. Following the attack, government authorities will issue new calls for surveillance and movement tracking of the entire population. RFID implants will play a significant role as well cell phone tracking. Propaganda television ads will show implants are being harmless and put in place to "protect your family against terrorism." But the real purpose will be to establish a database of the movements and locations of U.S. citizens that can be data mined to discover patterns of meetings among two or more people. If you meet with the "wrong" people, you will then be added to a list of those to be watched. Those who refuse to be tagged or tracked will be denied air travel and other forms of free travel.

#20 - The world won't end on December 21, 2012

The world won't come to an end on December 21, 2012, but certain elements of current human civilization may certainly be coming to a close around that time. The global money system, in particular, is headed for a total collapse. Many elements of the environment are at a breaking point (such as the chemical pollution of the oceans). The chemical burden on the citizens of the world is reaching a critical mass they may culminate in a population collapse. I don't put any special significance on the date of December 21, but I do believe many things are headed toward collapse (and rebirth) over the next several years.

#21 - EPA pressured to regulate pharmaceuticals in the water supply

After ignoring the problem for decades, the EPA will finally be pressured into taking on the regulation of pharmaceuticals in the water supply. Big Pharma will fight this relentlessly, of course, because it makes more money by distributing more drugs that end up in the water supply. So don't expect any real action to limit Big Pharma's drug trade. Mostly, we'll just get talk (but no action) from the EPA.

#22 - Nursing home drugging scandal exposed

A major scandal involving the criminal drugging of nursing home residents will unfold in the western world. It will be discovered that staff are intentionally drugging residents into a mental stupor in order to make them "easier to handle." Several deaths among nursing home patients will occur, with one of them being mysterious enough to set off the investigation.

#23 - The psychiatric industry will declare more normal behaviors to be "disorders"

Between now and 2012, the psych industry will "discover" yet more disorders that will be promoted as vehicles for selling more dangerous mind-altering drugs to children. These new disorder will actually be normal behaviors that are "undesirable" by parents or teachers. For example, temper tantrums may be classified as a disorder requiring pharmaceutical treatment. "Talking back disorder" will be given some scientific-sounding name (to make it seem legitimate, of course) and will be treated with drugs that harm brain function. There's no end to the disease mongering of Big Pharma. Expect to see more disorders targeting younger children, expectant mothers and senior citizens. This is all part of Big Pharma's effort to expand its customer base.

Scary possibility: Adults who refuse to follow government orders for RFID tracking or other Big Brother plans may be labeled with a new disorder called "Adult Authority Defiance Disorder" (AADD) and be arrested and medicated against their will to "treat" their brain malfunction. The only way to avoid being labeled AADD is to go along with whatever you're told by the government.

#24 - Vaccine industry goes crazy with new vaccines for all sorts of "diseases"

The vaccine industry has been itching for new diseases to promote over the last few years. Big Pharma has realized that vaccines are the future of big profits because their sale doesn't require anyone to actually be sick. This is a way of selling drugs to healthy people, and this has been a long-term goal of Big Pharma for at least two decades. Between now and 2012, expect to see more vaccines marketed for various concocted infectious diseases (much like H1N1) as well as vaccines targeting behavior! For example, you might see vaccines pushed that claim to stop smoking, or alcoholism, or even over-eating. A "diet vaccine" would be the ultimate goal of Big Pharma: Take a shot and lose weight without even trying!

#25 - War on health freedom ramps up, targeting raw milk, homeopathy, herbs and supplements

The war against raw milk will result in farmers being treated like drug dealers by overzealous (and misguided) health "authorities" who engage in armed "raw milk raids." Homeopathy, anti-cancer therapies, herbs and supplements will all continue to be viciously attacked by the FDA and FTC, and these attacks will escalate as the FDA enters a new era of police state tyranny against the American People who are only seeking healing.

#26 - The world becomes a far more dangerous place for honest citizens

As economic, environmental and infrastructure failures occur, they will displace more people from their jobs and homes, leading to a sharp increase in crime nearly everywhere around the world. We already saw this after Hurricane Katrina, where hundreds of thousands of jobless refugees caused a huge crime wave through neighboring cities like Houston, TX. Expect to see significant increases in crime in all major world cities.

The worse the economy becomes, the fewer police officers can be afforded by municipalities. This translates into increases in street crime: Muggings, robberies, hold-ups, etc.

#27 - New attempts are made to destroy internet freedom

There will be a significant new attempt by one or more governments to destroy freedom on the internet. This will take the form of "hate speech" laws, identity laws (so no one can post anything on the 'net anonymously), or the outlawing of internet text on certain topics (such as making it illegal to post information on natural remedies). This will be put in place by desperate governments who realize they are losing their propaganda wars thanks to the freedoms of the internet.

You can also expect to see more cooperation between Google (and YouTube) and the NSA, FBI or CIA. Governments will maintain secret information taps into all the major search engines, email service providers and content websites. Google, Facebook, Yahoo, YouTube and many other sites will function as back-door surveillance platforms for the U.S. government.

#28 - China's boom will bust, sending ripples through global economy

China is driving a super-heated economy to the brink of a bust. Everything looks great during the boom, but this boom will come to an end before January, 2013.

China is a mass consumer of natural resources and construction materials like concrete and steel. When its economic bubble bursts, it will send shockwaves through the economies of all the major first-world countries who supply many of the materials and technologies that are currently underlying China's fast-paced growth. Most importantly, China's economic bust will cause a sharp drop in the country's ability to purchase more U.S. debt. China's central banks may even decide to start selling U.S. debt notes. This act could set off a chain reaction of global sales that would tear open a huge hole in the metaphorical Titanic of America's counterfeit economic prosperity.

#29 - Central and South America will drop the U.S. dollar as a currency

Ecuador currently uses the U.S. dollar as its primary currency. The dollar is also openly accepted in countries like Panama. But within the next three years, the U.S. dollar will lose its dominance in South America. I predict that Ecuador will be well on its way towards ditching the dollar and embracing either its own new currency or adopting a new South American currency by January, 2013.

All the South American elected officials already realize that the endless creation of new money by the Federal Reserve is causing a devaluation of the U.S. dollar -- effectively resulting in a transfer of wealth from those nations that use the dollar to the USA. This is seen on the street as an inflationary event that raises street prices of common goods (like food and fuel) in developing countries, making presidents increasingly unpopular among their citizens. The only way to defend against this erosion of wealth is to drop the U.S. dollar as a currency and switch to your own national or regional currency.

#30 - Local currencies emerge following the collapse of the dollar

Speaking of currency, although the collapse of the U.S. dollar may take several years beyond 2012, once it happens, you can expect to see a flood of local currencies hitting the streets in towns and cities across the USA. States like California or Texas, for example, may quickly set up their own "state reserve banks" that replace the Federal Reserve. They will then issue state notes ("Texas Bucks") that serve as currency, replacing the dollar.

There will then be exchange rates between the currencies of various states -- I'll give you 1.25 California Bucks for 1 Texas Buck... etc. Fortunes will be made and lost as currency traders bet on the fluctuations between state currency valuations.

#31 - TSA suspends full body scanners after celeb photo scandal

The TSA swears that your "naked" body picture is deleted in mere seconds after it's taken. But I predict that a famous U.S. celebrity will have their body scanner picture taken, saved and swapped all over the internet. The public outcry will cause the TSA to temporarily suspend body scanning operations, but after the protests fade away, they'll reinstate the procedure. "Sheeple" air travelers will go right along with it, believing that a little more security is worth sacrificing any amount of freedom.

#32 - Cell phone brain tumors start to appear in younger users

By 2012, numerous brain tumors will be documented in people in their 20's who were heavy users of cell phones through their childhood and teen years. It takes time for these tumors to develop, of course, which is why they haven't shown up in large numbers yet. Today's 30+ adults never used cell phones as children, but the current generation of adults in their 20's grew up with their heads being subjected to these intense electromagnetic radiation fields on a regular basis.

#33 - Medical industry claims to find cause of autism

In order to deflect blame from vaccines, the medical industry will falsify whatever research is necessary to blame autism on something else: Probably a combination of genetics and exposure to certain chemicals. This new "research" will be published in a "prestigious" medical journal (which caters to the interests of Big Pharma, of course).

#34 - Terrorist strike on the U.S. water supply

(The text of this prediction has been removed, ((not by me, by the original author))as I don't want to be blamed for giving terrorists any specific ideas. In no way do I wish for any terrorist attacks on anyone. But I should note that terrorists are pretty clever and they have ways to come up with their own ideas.)

#35 - Sperm count drops, infertility rates rise

The next five years will see infertility rates continue to rise as sperm counts drop and DNA mutations (caused by pharmaceuticals and other chemicals) keep rising. This is the beginning of the genopocalypse, as I call it: The genetic degradation of the mainstream human population.

#36 - "Stealth personal recorders" go mainstream

I predict that over the next 3-5 years, tiny "personal recorders" that can record 24 hours of audio and video while being covertly worn by people will go mainstream. This will have huge implications for police work (expect to see police caught in the abuse of innocent citizens), business meetings (expect to see video clips from private corporation meetings ending up on the 'net thanks to whistleblowers), government and many other areas.

A key court case will eventually emerge that challenges the legality of the personal recordings, and in the end, they will be allowed as evidence. New laws passed by Congress in the year 2015 will limit the use of personal recorders in public schools, government buildings and other "sensitive" areas. These devices, by the way, will likely take the form of finger rings (for audio recorders), necklaces, bracelets or eyeglasses. Some specialty technology recorders may even be placed inside false eyes.

The year 2010 and beyond will be the "counter surveillance era" where citizens are watching the authorities. YouTube will play a huge role in this, but sooner or later it will begin censoring and blocking videos that threaten the credibility of the government.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on February 19, 2010, 08:14:21 AM
that's like a list someone would make after only reading headlines for the past year. 
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Matt on February 20, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
The vaccines-related-to-autism trope was already debunked before you posted that, Nacho.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Tatertots on February 20, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
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I don't want to be blamed for giving terrorists any specific ideas

Right. That's whats preventing the next terrorist attack. They're not quite sure how to execute. A crisis of creativity.

"We... We could take airplane! And... And fly into building!"

"NO YOU IDIOT. Been done!"

"SHIT! Allah is most angry with us."
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 21, 2010, 03:18:55 AM
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I don't want to be blamed for giving terrorists any specific ideas

Right. That's whats preventing the next terrorist attack. They're not quite sure how to execute. A crisis of creativity.

"We... We could take airplane! And... And fly into building!"

"NO YOU IDIOT. Been done!"

"SHIT! Allah is most angry with us."

Well done, Tyson.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 22, 2010, 06:21:58 PM
Anyway....where'd we leave off with this thread back when it was about 2012?  The possible End Dates!  (According to Wikipedia.)

January 31st -- 433 Eros is coming!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/433_Eros

But, of course, we've been watching it for years, and we even landed on it in 2001, and now the Eros Catastrophe Theory isn't so OMG.

April 17th -- By treaty, that's when we end the "Combined Forces Command" in South Korea.  So that's when North Korea will attack!

Except...it doesn't mean anything because we'll still be there and the South Korean army is scary.

December 21st -- When the Mayan calendar completes a cycle.  

For those waiting on the robot apocalypse, there's this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_%28supercomputer%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Sequoia

So one or the other will become self-aware and become obsessed with counting bathroom tiles.

The sun's magnetic poles will reverse during a peak of sunspot activity.  But the sun has done that before, so...

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 22, 2010, 06:44:46 PM
Time traveller John Titor said the big nuclear kablooie is in 2015, so I'm not worried.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 23, 2010, 11:18:20 AM
MonkeyNET will be mobile in 2014.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on February 23, 2010, 11:20:51 AM
Too late!  The world will be a scar and there'll be nothing left to eat but the piles of dust left by all of our bodies!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on February 26, 2010, 11:08:25 AM
But it will be MY scar.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Disco Dust on March 04, 2010, 01:35:08 AM
All these recent earthquakes have me more paranoid than usual.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Dragonfly on March 04, 2010, 01:23:30 PM
Yeah--- I like this thread... Gotta love paranoia! ~ The earthquakes reportedly shifted the Earth's axis by a millimeter or something.  I can't wait to see The Northern Lights out my window!!!!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on March 06, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
The fog is creeping closer.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 01, 2010, 12:42:35 PM
Pictures of a giant sinkhole in Guatemala. Insanity!

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Flooding-opens-up-sinkholes-Guatemala-City/ss/events/wl/053110guatemalahole
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 01, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Not their first giant hellpit sinkhole.  The city's sewage system is about as up to date as a bog mummy and it's basically just eating out the rock beneath the city.  It's really just a matter of time before things really get bad.

They actually have a sewage system that's very similar to DC -- the single-pipe system that channels both storm runoff and sewage. It gets clogged -- especially, say, when a tropical storm comes through -- and is in such bad repair, the sewage spills out and dissolves the rock around it.

I know too much about this because I enjoy reading stories about how motorcycles and small cars are frequently washed down the DC main pipe and need to be hauled out of this foul sewage freakout mix.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on June 04, 2010, 11:17:36 AM
That sinkhole almost looks like a photoshop effect.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on June 08, 2010, 06:35:34 PM
That sinkhole almost looks like a photoshop effect.

http://shanghaiist.com/2010/06/09/sinkholes_appearing_everywhere.php
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on September 28, 2010, 11:00:16 AM
I figure this is a good thread for UFO news!

Two UFO/ET news stories over the last 48 hours.  First:

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UN names official space 'host'

By TODD VENEZIA

Last Updated: 8:19 AM, September 26, 2010

Posted: 2:23 AM, September 26, 2010

E.T. -- phone the UN!

If an alien ever lands in your back yard and says, "Take me to your leader," the United Nations is giving you someone to call.

Mazlan Othman, an obscure Malaysian scientist, will be named as the Earth's official alien-spacecraft greeter. She's expected to announce her new role at a conference next week.

While Hollywood and most Americans assume the president of the United States would speak to aliens on behalf of earthlings, the United Nations thinks real extraterrestrials should get a more globalized response.

Othman, head of the UN Office for Outer Space Affairs, backs that view.

"The continued search for extraterrestrial communication, by several entities, sustains the hope that someday humankind will receive signals from extraterrestrials," she said in a recording of a recent speech, reported by the Sunday Times of London.

"When we do, we should have in place a coordinated response that takes into account all the sensitivities related to the subject. The UN is a ready-made mechanism for such coordination."

At the upcoming conference in Britain, Othman is expected to tell delegates that the recent discovery of hundreds of planets around other stars has made the detection of extraterrestrial life more likely than ever before -- and that means the United Nations must be ready to coordinate humanity's response to any "first contact."

Othman is an astrophysicist who got her Ph.D. in New Zealand.

Scientists who work with her say her job is essentially to be the mouthpiece for mankind.

"Othman is absolutely the nearest thing we have to a 'Take me to your leader' person," said professor Richard Crowther, a space law expert with the United Kingdom Space Agency.

Alien arrivals aren't the only cinematic-style issues that Othman's office investigates.

It's also in charge of deciding what to do if a deadly asteroid is found to be on a collision course with Earth.

The last UN official picked as Earth's official mouthpiece provoked controversy.

In 1977, two Voyager spacecraft went into space with recordings that were meant to be a message from Earth to intelligent life in the galaxy.

The voice on the message, however, belonged to then UN Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim, who was later discovered to have been an enthusiastic member of the Nazi party during World War II.

And:

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In space, no one can smell the drifting interstellar cloud of patchouli oil or catch the cosmic hackysack. It turns out to be a crucial human failing, if a group of retired Air Force officers is to be believed. The officers says they’ve encountered UFOs, and surmise that the space creatures are trying to tell an obstinate human race to abandon its nuclear weapons. That’s right: earth is being monitored by intergalactic hippies.

Seven elderly retired Air Force officers called a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington on Monday afternoon — covered, improbably, by CNN — to disclose that they witnessed the UFOs accomplish the technologically difficult step of rendering U.S. nuclear missiles temporarily inoperable during the Cold War.

“Whoever are aboard these craft are sending a signal to both Washington and Moscow, among others, that we are playing with fire,” announced longtime UFO researcher Robert Hastings, who convened the gathering. “The possession and threatened use of nuclear weapons potentially threatens the human race and the integrity of the planetary bargain.”

President Obama, however unpopular you’ve grown at home, there are beings off-world who approve of your agenda. And they provide the perfect opportunity to introduce our new weekly feature, Tinfoil Tuesdays, a tour through the more, um, unusual corners of our already-freaky Danger Room.

Hastings didn’t serve in the military himself, but he worked with Robert Salas, a retired Air Force missile launch officer, to assemble a crew of former airmen whose stories shared a remarkable similarity. From 1963 to 1980, all were present at U.S. nuclear missile sites when the flashing lights of alien spacecraft — some disc-shaped, some conical, some spherical — appeared before them or their colleagues. (Hastings said he couldn’t rule out that alien contacts we haven’t heard about are ongoing to this day.) Some confessed that they didn’t see the ships themselves, but heard reliable accounts from trustworthy comrades. In most cases, though, when the aliens approached, the missiles stopped being responsive to technicians’ controls.

But the aliens didn’t actually zap the missiles. They just flew over the bases, worked their advanced-technological magic and disappeared into the night. “They could have done a lot more damage,” Salas told Danger Room when asked how he knew the alien counter-missile efforts didn’t portend a more hostile purpose, like a forthcoming attack.

Like most of the veterans recounting their close-encounter experiences, Bruce Fenstermacher, a ruddy, 68-year old retired Air Force captain, didn’t actually want to be quite as definitive as Hastings and Salas were about the aliens’ policy preferences. “I think they’re monitoring us so that we don’t mess things up,” he said, expressing faith in the aliens as enlightened interplanetary guardians.

Hastings allowed that his theory was “speculative,” but “given the available facts, it is a viable scenario.”

Charles Halt, a retired colonel, didn’t know if he was going to be probed or abducted when he saw something that “looked like a large eye, red in color, moving through the trees” in an English forest near a Suffolk base called Bentwaters. But suddenly it “exploded” into “five white objects” that sped away into the night sky without harming him. (Halt has told his story many times before, and a transcript of what purports to be his contemporaneous audio recording of the incident is Googleable.)

Robert Jamison was a young lieutenant working as a Minuteman targeting officer in on Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in 1967. “My main job was to point the missiles in right direction,” he joked. But one night in March, all ten of his missiles, known as a flight, suddenly went off alert status — right as rumors of a UFO visit circulated through Malmstrom. While he never himself saw any aliens, he heard about a UFO landing in a “deep ravine” nearby and interviewed a security guard who described “two small red lights off at a distance” that began to close in; the guard broke down and cried at the recollection. Jamison believes the encounter was an incident that’s come to be known as the Belt, Montana UFO sighting.

If an entire flight of nuclear missiles really did go offline, it certainly “would be panic-inducing,” says a former Air Force missile officer who works as a foreign-policy wonk in Washington (and who asked for anonymity in order to keep his organization out of a story about UFOs). In his experience of working through over 300 nuclear alerts, “at most” three or four missiles went into “no-go” status.

He adds, “If these guys are telling the truth, an entire flight of ten sorties dropping into no-go status is a pretty significant event from a deterrence perspective.” It might also explain how little green men might look like a compelling theory of what went wrong.

But the officers didn’t face a particularly skeptical crowd. There were as many well-wishers at the Press Club as there were journalists in a conference attended by about 30 people, congratulating them on their bravery. One gentleman took the mic to confess that he had been “a contactee” in Santa Monica in 1986 and 1997. “I can affirm this phenomenon is real,” he said. Another journalist asked the panel whether it was “time to admit that there are other spiritual beings in the universe.”

Along the same lines, Hastings suggested that the major threat that the aliens pose is to the close-minded. “I don’t think humankind is in jeopardy from whoever they are or whatever they are, except that we will have our minds expanded,” he said. “There will be a paradigm shift. Traditional institutions such as religions, governments, other social institutions may be threatened by what is coming. That is just the logical consequence of what is about to occur.”

If people will allow themselves to listen, that is. Dwynne Arneson, a Vietnam veteran who served at Malmstrom alongside Jamison during the the 1967 incident, lamented that the anxieties of the age are proving dangerously distracting. “People are so wrapped up nowadays in their own world,” he observed. “They’re worried about jobs. They’re worried about mortgages. They could care less about UFOs and ETs and paranormal events.”
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 06, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
UFOs in China! Proof we're no longer the main superpower!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/new-sighting-of-ufo-over-china-22306325
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 03, 2011, 03:21:36 PM
Bold is mine.

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End of Days in May? Christian group spreads word

RALEIGH, N.C. – If there had been time, Marie Exley would have liked to start a family. Instead, the 32-year-old Army veteran has less than six months left, which she'll spend spreading a stark warning: Judgment Day is almost here.

Exley is part of a movement of Christians loosely organized by radio broadcasts and websites, independent of churches and convinced by their reading of the Bible that the end of the world will begin May 21, 2011.

To get the word out, they're using billboards and bus stop benches, traveling caravans of RVs and volunteers passing out pamphlets on street corners. Cities from Bridgeport, Conn., to Little Rock, Ark., now have billboards with the ominous message, and mission groups are traveling through Latin America and Africa to spread the news outside the U.S.

"A lot of people might think, 'The end's coming, let's go party,'" said Exley, a veteran of two deployments in Iraq. "But we're commanded by God to warn people. I wish I could just be like everybody else, but it's so much better to know that when the end comes, you'll be safe."

In August, Exley left her home in Colorado Springs, Colo., to work with Oakland, Calif.-based Family Radio Worldwide, the independent Christian ministry whose leader, Harold Camping, has calculated the May 21 date based on his reading of the Bible.

She is organizing traveling columns of RVs carrying the message from city to city, a logistics challenge that her military experience has helped solve. The vehicles are scheduled to be in five North Carolina cities between now and the second week of January, but Exley will shortly be gone: overseas, where she hopes to eventually make it back to Iraq.

"I don't really have plans to come back," she said. "Time is short."

Not everyone who's heard Camping's message is taking such a dramatic step. They're remaining in their day-to-day lives, but helping publicize the prophecy in other ways. Allison Warden, of Raleigh, has been helping organize a campaign using billboards, post cards and other media in cities across the U.S. through a website, We Can Know.

The 29-year-old payroll clerk laughs when asked about reactions to the message, which is plastered all over her car.

"It's definitely against the grain, I know that," she said. "We're hoping people won't take our word for it, or Harold Camping's word for it. We're hoping that people will search the scriptures for themselves."

Camping, 89, believes the Bible essentially functions as a cosmic calendar explaining exactly when various prophecies will be fulfilled.

The retired civil engineer said all his calculations come from close readings of the Bible, but that external events like the foundation of the state of Israel in 1948 are signs confirming the date.

"Beyond the shadow of a doubt, May 21 will be the date of the Rapture and the day of judgment," he said.

The doctrine known as the Rapture teaches that believers will be taken up to heaven, while everyone else will remain on earth for a period of torment, concluding with the end of time. Camping believes that will happen in October.

"If May 21 passes and I'm still here, that means I wasn't saved. Does that mean God's word is inaccurate or untrue? Not at all," Warden said.

The belief that Christ will return to earth and bring an end to history has been a basic element of Christian belief since the first century. The Book of Revelation, which comes last in the New Testament, describes this conclusion in vivid language that has inspired Christians for centuries.

But few churches are willing to set a date for the end of the world, heeding Jesus' words in the gospels of Mark and Matthew that no one can know the day or hour it will happen. Predictions like Camping's, though, aren't new. One of the most famous in history was by the Baptist leader William Miller, who predicted the end for Oct. 22, 1844, which came to be known as the Great Disappointment among his followers, some of whom subsequently founded the Seventh Day Adventist church.

"In the U.S., there is still a significant population, mostly Protestant, who look at the Bible as kind of a puzzle, and the puzzle is God's word and it's predicting when the end times will come," said Catherine Wessinger, a professor at Loyola University in New Orleans who studies millennialism, the belief in pending apocalypse.

"A lot of times these prophecies gain traction when difficulties are happening in society," she said. "Right now, there's a lot of insecurity, and this is a promise that says it's not all random, it's part of God's plan."

Past predictions that failed to come true don't have any bearing on the current calculation, believers maintain.

"It would be like telling the Wright brothers that every other attempt to fly has failed, so you shouldn't even try," said Chris McCann, who works with eBible Fellowship, one of the groups spreading the message.

For believers like McCann, theirs is actually a message of hope and compassion: God's compassion for people, and the hope that there's still time to be saved.

That, ultimately, is what spurs on Exley, who said her beliefs have alienated her from most of her friends and family. Her hope is that not everyone who hears her message will mock it, and that even people who dismiss her now might still come to believe.

"If you still want to say we're crazy, go ahead," she said. "But it doesn't hurt to look into it."

___

Online:

Family Radio Worldwide: http://www.familyradio.com (http://www.familyradio.com)

eBible Fellowship: http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/ (http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/)
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 03, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Oh, man, there were about 20 of those guys marching around 1st St outside the Metro. I thought it was a protest...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
So should we have a Long Count party in December 2012?  I think we should rent a place out and make it a big deal in case the world really does end. (Because we drank too much scotch.)


Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 04, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Do you mean December 2011? Because if we make it to December 2012, we're almost home free, right?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2011, 06:42:38 PM
Do you mean December 2011? Because if we make it to December 2012, we're almost home free, right?

Dec 21st, 2012 is the date the Mayan calendar "ends."


By the way -- the actual end date for the Mayan calendar is October 13, 4772 (just because their numbering system runs out).

Making it to the end of a cycle, though, was cause for a no holds barred freakout celebration. So, if you want to truly celebrate the Mayans, and the end of the cycle, then we should have a two day mega-party.

I'm sure that's buried somewhere in this thread but I'm on the phone being screamed at by a lunatic psychologist.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2011, 06:59:39 PM
By the way, I like that you were preparing for the end of the world THIS YEAR! Sorry, RC. Better not charge up those credit cards.  We have all of 2012 to get through before the end.

Now, the nutjobs say nothing's supposed to happen till December 21st... But we get a Near Earth Object in February 2012. Eros passes within 26 million miles.  Scary!  And the Queen's Diamond Jubilee follows! THE LIZARD QUEEN RISES!!!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 04, 2011, 08:23:33 PM
I live by the word of John Titor, Time Traveler. The nukes fly in 2015.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2011, 08:58:45 PM
I live by the word of John Titor, Time Traveler. The nukes fly in 2015.

When the nukes do fly in 2012 is in June (I think it is) when we're treaty-obliged to step down from wartime status in Korea. What's that mean?  We've been in charge of the South Korean army this whole time (which is why they haven't freaked out and attacked NK during all these close calls). When we step down from wartime status, complete control of the SK army returns to Seoul. And there'll be no controls.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on January 05, 2011, 11:25:19 AM
2012: Monkey becomes Leader of the Free Earth Children.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 05, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
The news is having mass bird/fish death freakout right now.

"Two birds died in Ann Arbor. THE END IS NEAR!!!!~@!!"
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 02:24:26 PM
I'm telling you -- 2012 is going to be scary. Not because anything will happen, but because the bulk of Americans are poorly educated freaks who are going to flip the fuck out.

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Larry Hall believes in preparing for scenarios that the Man would have you believe are fictional—Mayan disaster prophecies, pole shifts, alien invasions, that sort of thing. So the 54-year-old software engineer shelled out $250,000 for a decommissioned Atlas F Missile Base in Kansas. “I thought, wow, I can transform it into an ultrasafe, energy-efficient fortress,” Hall says. Then he figured that other people might also sleep better 200 feet underground within epoxy-hardened concrete walls. And with a custom retrofit featuring GE Monogram stainless-steel appliances and Kohler fixtures, they could also eat (and flush) in style. So Hall announced a “condo suite package”—starting at $900,000—that includes a five-year food supply (think hydroponics and aquaculture) and “simulated view windows” with light levels calibrated to the time of day to keep you from going crazy. Hall says his silo will have a military-grade security system and electricity powered by geothermal energy and wind turbines, as well as a theater, workout area, and pool with a waterfall. Not a bad place to wait out the apocalypse. Hall is still building this dream silo, but he’s already getting applicants. “When they call me up,” he says, “they’re like, you had me at MISSILE BASE!” With three out of seven floors already spoken for, you’d better get your bid in. You’d hate to be stuck in a moving van when the aliens touch down.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 14, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
I really wish I could just sleep for the whole year.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 03:07:43 PM
I really wish I could just sleep for the whole year.

Starting next month, with the May 21, 2011 crowd gearing up! I pass people with signs about May 21st every single day on my way to and from the Metro.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 09, 2011, 09:11:14 AM
We're all keeping track of what will later be known as "ground zero for the zombie/alien apocalypse," right?
Bold is mine in the below article..

"They look like... eggs."
*facehugger latches onto face*

(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2FguGXp8.jjS94VS9LR6QIyg--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MTE7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen_us%2FNews%2Fap_webfeeds%2F5237dfae7742f511f40e6a7067003c67.jpg&hash=16a2b888c8f25d11ffc9c2b02aa0dec49c4f3d15)

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Orange goo near remote Alaska village ID'd as eggs

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Scientists have identified an orange-colored gunk that appeared along the shore of a remote Alaska village as millions of microscopic eggs filled with fatty droplets.

But the mystery is not quite solved. Officials with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Monday they don't know for sure what species the eggs are, although they believe they are some kind of crustacean eggs or embryos. They also don't know if the eggs are toxic, and that worries many of the 374 residents of Kivalina, an Inupiat Eskimo community located at the tip of an 8-mile (12-kilometer) barrier reef on Alaska's northwest coast.

There's been at least one report of dead minnows found in the lagoon of the village the night the eggs appeared last week. Residents also are worried about the community's dwindling reserves in village water tanks even though the orange mass has dissipated from the lagoon and Wulik River, said city administrator Janet Mitchell.

"It seems to be all gone," she said. "But if they're microscopic eggs, who's to say they're not still in the river?"

Scientists also don't know why the unidentified eggs suddenly emerged on the shores of Kivalina last week. Villagers say they've never seen such a phenomenon before.

"We'll probably find some clues, but we'll likely never have a definitive answer on that," NOAA spokeswoman Julie Speegle said.

Samples are being sent to a NOAA laboratory in Charleston, South Carolina, for further analysis. The Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation also sent samples Monday to the Institute for Marine Science at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.

Kivalina residents live largely off the land, and many are worried about the effect on some wildlife and plants from the goo, which turned powdery once it dried — and probably went airborne. Mitchell said some people went berry picking over the weekend, but couldn't tell if the goo was on the fruit, called salmonberries, which are the same color of the eggs. The caribou are in the region now, but she doesn't believe the migrating animals pose much risk as a food source.

The eggs were found on at least one roof and in buckets set all over the village to collect rain water. City Councilwoman Frances Douglas said the gooey, slimy substance was widely spread in streaks along the Wulik River and the lagoon, which is a half mile wide and six miles long. Orangey water was reported from as far away as the village of Buckland, southeast of Kivalina.

Douglas estimated the volume of eggs she could see "in excess of a thousand gallons, easily."

The weather last Wednesday, when the bright substance emerged, only intensified the effect, according to Douglas.

"We had an overcast sky, so it really, really stood out," she said. "You couldn't miss it for nothing."

Even village elders don't recall anything like it, said Douglas, who has lived all her 44 years in Kivalina. She remembers temperatures were colder in her childhood, gradually rising over the years. She wonders if that has anything to do with the invasion of the eggs.

"With climate change, anything can happen, I guess," she said.

Speegle called the climate change theory "purely speculative."
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on August 09, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
The Elder Gods are rising!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on August 09, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
We'll wait till we lose contact with the NOAA lab in SC.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 09, 2011, 11:46:25 AM
Just tell me one thing: We're going there to destroy them, right? Not to study. Not to bring back. But to wipe them out.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on August 09, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
That's the plan. You have my word.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 17, 2011, 03:58:53 PM
Earth is trying to wipe us out.

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‘Brain-eating amoeba’ claims second victim this month

A parasite known as the "brain-eating amoeba" has claimed its second young American victim this month.

Christian Strickland, a 9-year-old from Henrico County in Virginia contracted an infection after visiting a fishing camp in his state. He died of meningitis on August 5.

This week, health department officials confirmed that the deadly amoeba--officially known as "Naegleria fowleri"--was to blame.

"Sadly, we have had a Naegleria infection in Virginia this summer," Dr. Keri Hall of the Virginia Department of Health, told The Richmond Times-Dispatch. "It's important that people be aware of . . . safe swimming messages."

Earlier this month, Courtney Nash succumbed to the brain-eating amoeba after diving off a dock into the St. John's River at her grandmother's house in Florida.

According to her mother Patricia Nash, Courtney decided before her death to become an orgain donor. "I didn't get my miracle, but she has performed other miracles," Patricia told local station WESH. "If we can save other people's lives so they don't have to go through what I just went though, this could be a blessing in disguise."

Usually found in warm, stagnant water in freshwater lakes, ponds, and rivers, the parasite "enters the nasal passages ... and migrates to the olfactory nerves, eventually invading the brain," according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It almost always causes meningitis. Symptoms include fever, nausea, stiff neck and a frontal headache.

Thirty-two infections of the parasite were reported in the U.S. between 2001 and 2010, CDC spokeswoman Christine Pearson told The Lookout, adding that infections are almost always deadly. That included two children in Phoenix who are thought to have contracted it through the domestic water supply in 2002.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on August 17, 2011, 04:19:15 PM
I constantly fear that my brain is dying.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on August 18, 2011, 12:19:35 AM
Hang out near warm, stagnant water much?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on August 18, 2011, 01:15:28 AM
Hang out near warm, stagnant water much?

Well...I live in DC...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 26, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this.

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Study of freakish mystery illness finds no cause

ATLANTA (AP) — Imagine having the feeling that tiny bugs are crawling on your body, that you have oozing sores and mysterious fibers sprouting from your skin. Sound like a horror movie? Well, at one point several years ago, government doctors were getting up to 20 calls a day from people saying they had such symptoms.

Many of these people were in California and one of that state's U.S. senators, Dianne Feinstein, asked for a scientific study. In 2008, federal health officials began to study people saying they were affected by this freakish condition called Morgellons.

The study cost nearly $600,000. Its long-awaited results, released Wednesday, conclude that Morgellons exists only in the patients' minds.

"We found no infectious cause," said Mark Eberhard, a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official who was part of the 15-member study team.

The study appears in PLoS One, one of the Public Library of Science journals.

Sufferers of Morgellons (mor-GELL-uns) describe a variety of symptoms, including fatigue, erupting sores, crawling sensations on their skin and — perhaps worst of all — mysterious red, blue or black fibers that sprout from their skin. Some say they've suffered for decades, but the syndrome wasn't named until 2002, when "Morgellons" was chosen from a 1674 medical paper describing similar symptoms.

Afflicted patients have documented their suffering on websites and many have vainly searched for a doctor who believed them. Some doctors believe the condition is a form of delusional parasitosis, a psychosis in which people believe they are infected with parasites.

Last May, Mayo Clinic researchers published a study of 108 Morgellons patients and found none of them suffered from any unusual physical ailment. The study concluded that the sores on many of them were caused by their own scratching and picking at their skin.

The CDC study was meant to be broader, starting with a large population and then went looking for cases within the group. The intent was to give scientists a better idea of how common Morgellons actually is.

They focused on more than 3 million people who lived in 13 counties in Northern California, a location chosen in part because all had health insurance through Kaiser Permanente of Northern California, which had a research arm that could assist in the project. Also, many of the anecdotal reports of Morgellons came from the area.

Culling through Kaiser patient records from July 2006 through June 2008, the team found — and was able to reach — 115 who had what sounded like Morgellons. Most were middle-aged white women. They were not clustered in any one spot.

That led to the finding that Morgellons occurred in roughly 4 out of every 100,000 Kaiser enrollees. "So it's rare," Eberhard said.

Roughly 100 agreed to at least answer survey questions, and about 40 consented to a battery of physical and psychological tests that stretched over several days.

Blood and urine tests and skin biopsies checked for dozens of infectious diseases, including fungus and bacteria that could cause some of the symptoms. The researchers found none that would explain the cases.

There was no sign of an environmental cause, either, although researchers did not go to each person's house to look around.

They took fibers from 12 people, which were tested at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Nothing unusual there, either. Cotton and nylon, mainly — not some kind of organism wriggling out of a patient's body.

Skin lesions were common, but researchers concluded most of them were from scratching.

What stood out was how the patients did on the psychological exams. Though normal in most respects, they had more depression than the general public and were more obsessive about physical ailments, the study found.

However, they did not have an unusual history of psychiatric problems, according to their medical records. And the testing gave no clear indication of a delusional disorder.

So what do they have? The researchers don't know. They don't even know what to call it, opting for the label "unexplained dermopathy" in their paper.

But clearly, something made them miserable. "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," said Felicia Goldstein, an Emory University neurology professor and study co-author.

She said perhaps the patients could be helped by cognitive behavioral therapy that might help them deal with possible contributing psychological issues.

The study is not expected to be the last word on the subject.

Among those with additional questions is Randy Wymore, an Oklahoma State University pharmacologist who for years was the most reputable scientist to look into it and who has concluded Morgellons is not a psychiatric disorder.

On Wednesday, Wymore said he had not seen the CDC paper and was unable to comment on it. But when the study began, he questioned whether Kaiser patients with Morgellons would participate, especially if they were unhappy with how they were previously handled by their Kaiser doctors.

"There is always the question: How many of the study participants actually have Morgellons Disease?" he said, in an email.

The CDC is not planning additional study, however. The agency's expertise is in infectious diseases and environmental health problems, and the researchers saw no evidence of that.

"We're not mental health experts," one CDC spokeswoman said.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on January 26, 2012, 12:29:24 PM
You realize that reading up on stuff like this during an unemployment period is a slippery slope, right? Three weeks from now and you'll be sleeping in a cot in the crawlspace and peeing into bottles.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 26, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
Watching Women's Studies on YouTube over and over and over and over...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Cassander on January 27, 2012, 01:36:40 AM
I hope you're "liking" it each time.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 27, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
If Hughes would have had the internet... *shudder*
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 16, 2012, 12:59:54 PM
Next up is May 27th!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_God_Preparing_for_the_Kingdom_of_God

The guy behind that church (who has had several false predictions before) says that it all ends on the 27th.

After that, we're pretty clear until the December 21st Mayan Freakout.

Then we're clear for awhile. Interestingly, Isaac Newton has the end date of 2020, based on his interpretation of the Bible... And the Orthodox Jews think it'll be 2060. Though there's is less end of the world and more a cyclical "period of desolation," which, of course, can mean anything...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Disco Dust on May 17, 2012, 01:12:02 AM
You guys have not brought up the recent discovery in Guatemala of a supposed Mayan relic that seems to show 12/21/2012 is not an apocalyptic date after all.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 17, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
Probably because we're all really sick of the 2012 nonsense and just want it to go away. Besides who needs the Mayan calendar when we seem to be doing a pretty god job of wiping ourselves out?

But yes, I read that piece as well.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 17, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
Also, anyone with half a brain has always known that 12/21 is not the end date because the actual Mayan calendar keeps going.

Though the Mayans do have an end date around 4080 or something. In April, I think.

The whole December 21st thing comes from a crackhead cultist in the 70's misinterpreting things. With each turning of the cycle, the priests said there would be changes. But we say that about every New Year, right? Same thing.

I long-windedly explain all that at several points throughout this thread.

Edit: Here, it was just on page six: The end date for the Mayan calender is actually October 13, 4772.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 24, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
Next up is May 27th!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_God_Preparing_for_the_Kingdom_of_God

The guy behind that church (who has had several false predictions before) says that it all ends on the 27th.

After that, we're pretty clear until the December 21st Mayan Freakout.

Then we're clear for awhile. Interestingly, Isaac Newton has the end date of 2020, based on his interpretation of the Bible... And the Orthodox Jews think it'll be 2060. Though there's is less end of the world and more a cyclical "period of desolation," which, of course, can mean anything...

Get your guns ready!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 28, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
So I ran out of wine last night... Does that count as the end of the world?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 28, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
Not as long as there's vodka...
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 28, 2012, 01:17:59 PM
Not as long as there's vodka...

There isn;t. I'm down to stolen wedding beer. I might be forced to go outside today...but I don't want to.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 28, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
I picked up bloody mary mix this morning. About to grill beef ribs for the first time in my life.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on May 28, 2012, 01:20:57 PM
That's been weighing on you, hasn't it?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 28, 2012, 01:47:26 PM
It's just an all day affair.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 27, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Waiting till December 21st is so boring!

So, let's see... Sudden polar shift! Galactic alignment! Invisible planetoids on a collision course! Solar flare destructomundo! But all holding off till the magic window of December 20th-23rd. No earlier crackpot bullshit... Though the completely mythical Galactic Alignment Freakout was originally to be early November, but they moved it to December 21st. Actually, it was originally May, 2003.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 28, 2012, 12:52:46 AM
As long as I don't have to do anything, it's all cool.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 28, 2012, 08:02:50 AM
All you have to do is BURN ALIVE!!!

(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fadishakti.org%2Fimages%2Fmayan_calendar_S.jpg&hash=066b8a55e0db4525873cc18edcb4bd1a8d9ba046)
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on July 31, 2012, 08:15:18 AM
Mayan pussies: if they knew so much, and were so cool, how come they're all dead?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 31, 2012, 08:22:35 AM
Mayan pussies: if they knew so much, and were so cool, how come they're all dead?

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on July 31, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
And a hard cock in your pants.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Don't get cocky, kid!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on August 01, 2012, 09:50:36 AM
Don't get cocky, kid!

Zing!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on August 01, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Did I win?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on August 03, 2012, 11:10:50 AM
You won a cock in your hoop!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on September 24, 2012, 12:11:14 PM
Well... Three months from last Friday and it's all over!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 24, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on September 24, 2012, 12:57:35 PM
Fixed that link for you, RC. Why was it https?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 25, 2012, 09:45:30 AM
I was signed in to YouTube. A lot of my links are https these days.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on September 25, 2012, 10:13:26 AM
Oh! Okay. The Youtube code thing won't be happy with that. But just change it to http when you post.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on October 04, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
While we wait on December... Let's look ahead to post-2012 predictions!


http://www.abhota.info/end6.htm

Yay!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on December 21, 2012, 09:48:24 AM
We're so saturated that we missed Putin's hilarious apocalypse prophecy. 4.5 billion years! Stock up now!

So this thread now becomes a catalog of crazies who do stupid shit today...but with Christmas, and Newtown, I think it more likely we're all too depressed to do anything.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 21, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
Oh, I'm watching the news for idiots. Fear you not.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on December 21, 2012, 10:41:14 AM
Oh, I'm watching the news for idiots. Fear you not.

It'll happen when Gangnam Style hits one billion views on Youtube. It's at 998,976,706 now.

edit: Guess I can't say that and not post it:

Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on December 21, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
Oh my god! It just jumped to 999,885,235!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on December 21, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
Boom!

1,000,382,639!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on December 21, 2012, 01:55:07 PM
Six hours until I'll win that €50 bet against these scientifically ignorant misconceptions of 'doomsday' prophecies based around calendar cycles of a society that couldn't predict its own demise.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 21, 2012, 09:29:28 PM
It's all over. We died.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 22, 2012, 09:42:55 AM
That's what I said this morning! Only heaven still has cat dander and nobody ground any coffee the night before.

Unless I'm in.... Oh NO!!!
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: monkey! on December 22, 2012, 10:30:01 AM
We were never alive, people.
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 22, 2012, 12:19:02 PM
Is that what this hatch is about?
Title: Re: So the world ends on 2012
Post by: nacho on December 22, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
Time to marathon Lost!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 28, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
Do we have a climate change thread, or is this it?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/01/27/nicholas_stern_says_he_underestimated_risks_of_climate_change.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/01/27/nicholas_stern_says_he_underestimated_risks_of_climate_change.html)

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“I Got it Wrong on Climate Change—it’s Far, Far Worse”

Nicholas Stern, the author of a 2006 report commissioned by the British government on climate change that has been used as a reference ever since, says he now realizes he “underestimated the risks” of rising temperatures. In an interview with the Guardian, Stern, who is one of the world's leading environmental economists, says that had he known then what he knows now, he would have been “a bit more blunt” about the risks that climate change poses to the economy.

Stern, who heads up the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics, says that the “atmosphere seem to be absorbing less carbon than we expected, and emissions are rising pretty strongly.” Some of the effects of the rising temperatures are becoming evident more quickly than initially predicted. The Stern Review on the Economics of Climate Change claimed there was a 75 percent chance that global temperatures would increase by two or three degrees above average. But now Stern believes the world is "on track for something like four.”
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 28, 2013, 03:01:07 PM
Yeah, I don't think we have a climate change thread.

We need a new deadline for the apocalypse!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on January 30, 2013, 10:12:04 PM
The deadline is 5 billion years when our Sun expands to a red giant burning everything until Jupiter into a crisp.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 31, 2013, 08:18:00 AM
The deadline is 5 billion years when our Sun expands to a red giant burning everything until Jupiter into a crisp.

Which is perfect for my plans to start a gold-obsessed sex cult. And instead of all these freaks who kill themselves, I'll set the suicide spaceship date for 5 billion AD.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2013, 10:35:25 AM
So there's the killer asteroids that's going to fly only 17,000 miles past Earth today. (That's within our satellite belt, BTW.) And this morning there was this:

(Lots of links at Gizmodo if you click through.)
http://gizmodo.com/5984476/meteorite-crashes-in-russia-panic-spreads (http://gizmodo.com/5984476/meteorite-crashes-in-russia-panic-spreads)

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Meteorite Explodes Over Russia, Panic Spreads (Updating Live)

A meteorite has just exploded over Russia. This doesn't feel good when you know that a 150-foot asteroid is about to fly by Earth—and you read about the actual effects of an impact if astronomers' calculations are wrong. The Guardian is reporting that 474 people have been injured.

The videos we are collecting are impressive.
Read: What would actually happen if the 150-foot asteroid hit Earth today?

Latest update: The Russian Academy of Sciences has estimated that the meteorite weighed about 10 tons and entered the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of at least 33,000 mph, shattering about 18-32 miles above ground.

Update: the European Space Agency says their experts "confirm there is no link between the meteor incidents in Russia and asteroid 2012DA14 flyby tonight".

What's more incredible: unconfirmed reports say that an air defense unit fired a missile as the meteor entered Russian airspace at supersonic speeds, shattering it to pieces. I find this hard to believe, as I doubt their air defense had the time to detect and target an object that appeared out of nowhere, from space. There's also one single trail. If a missile actually hit anything, there would be multiple trails following the debris.

More likely, the meteor exploded before hitting the ground because of the enormous heat generated by the compression of air in front of the meteor or asteroid. This phenomenon is called asteroid airburst or bolide.

According to witnesses, cellphones stopped working and windows were blown out as the meteor exploded in the air. Some reports are suggesting that the event smashed windows as far as 125 miles from the point of impact. Apparently, about 250 people 474 people have been injured with over 20 hospitalised, according to Russia's emergency situations ministry. You can hear windows being obliterated in some of the videos.

The Russian Emergency Ministry says that there are 20,000 rescue workers deployed in the area. Aircraft are now flying over the area looking for impact sites.

The event was observed in the regions of Chelyabinsk, Tyumen and Sverdlovsk, located in the Republic of Bashkiria and in northern Kazakhstan. According to the BBC, the governor of Chelyabinsk region, Mikhail Yurevich, claims the meteor landed in a lake 1km outside Chebarkul, which has a population of 46,000.

Some people are theorizing that this is connected to the flyby of the asteroid 2012 DA14, which will pass near Earth later today, saying this is is "rubble" flying along the larger asteroid. While the timing in uncanny, there's absolutely no scientific demonstration of this theory at this point. It's purely speculative. See latest update above


Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 15, 2013, 10:57:24 AM
You want your goddamned pants scared off?


Today's the day to keep an eye on Bad Astronomy: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/02/15/breaking_huge_meteor_explodes_over_russia.html

(There are more scary vids at that link, too.)

Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 15, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
Oh, and, we won't be able to see it. But the Bad Astronomy guy will be hosting a Google Hangout that'll have footage from observatories around the world. Starts at 2pm:

https://plus.google.com/+PhilipPlait/posts
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
That video is terrifying.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
So.... what if it's already too late?
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 15, 2013, 12:23:26 PM
So.... what if it's already too late?

It's less than half the size of Tunguska. It won't do anything unless it turns sentient and actively targets the White House or something.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 22, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
It's Ragnarok!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507778/Will-world-end-100-days-Sounding-ancient-trumpet-York-warns-Viking-apocalypse-22-February-2014.html

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If Vikings were here today, the sounding of a distinctive horn in York would have created chaos.
The ancient instrument, blown last night, signalled exactly 100 days until the end of the world, according to Norse mythology.
Legend has it that the Norse God, Heimdallr, would blow the mythical Gjallerhorn to warn of the Viking apocalypse, also known as 'Ragnarok'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507778/Will-world-end-100-days-Sounding-ancient-trumpet-York-warns-Viking-apocalypse-22-February-2014.html#ixzz2u4eIfw2r
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Also, io9 and Tor are great, as usual:

http://io9.com/this-weekend-is-ragnarok-heres-why-that-isnt-the-end-1527994095

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/happy-ragnarok-time-to-choose-a-side

Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 25, 2014, 11:02:08 AM
I just realized we're living a 70s disaster movie.

"You say 'barracuda' and people go, 'Huh?' 'What?' You say 'shark'... and we've got a panic on our hands on the fourth of July."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/ncs-outer-banks-got-a-scary-forecast-about-climate-change-so/2014/06/24/0042cf96-f6f3-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/ncs-outer-banks-got-a-scary-forecast-about-climate-change-so/2014/06/24/0042cf96-f6f3-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html)

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On N.C.’s Outer Banks, scary climate-change predictions prompt a change of forecast

NAGS HEAD, N.C. — The dangers of climate change were revealed to Willo Kelly in a government conference room in the summer of 2011. By the end of the century, state officials said, the ocean would be 39 inches higher and her home on the Outer Banks would be swamped.

The state had detailed maps to illustrate this claim and was developing a Web site where people could check by street address to see if their property was doomed. There was no talk of salvation, no plan to hold back the tide. The 39-inch forecast was “a death sentence,” Kelly said, “for ever trying to sell your house.”

So Kelly, a lobbyist for Realtors and home builders on the Outer Banks, resolved to prove the forecast wrong. And thus began one of the nation’s most notorious battles over climate change.

Coastal residents joined forces with climate skeptics to attack the science of global warming and persuade North Carolina’s Republican-controlled legislature to deep-six the 39-inch projection, which had been advanced under the outgoing Democratic governor. Now, the state is working on a new forecast that will look only 30 years out and therefore show the seas rising by no more than eight inches.

Environmentalists are appalled, and North Carolina has been lampooned as a hotbed of greedy developers trying to “outlaw” the rising tide. Some climate-change experts are sympathetic, however, calling the rebellion an understandable reaction to sea-level forecasts that are rapidly becoming both widely available and alarmingly precise.

“The main problem they have is fear,” said Michael Orbach, a marine policy professor at Duke University who has met with coastal leaders. “They realize this is going to have a huge impact on the coastal economy and coastal development interests. And, at this point, we don’t actually know what we’re going to do about it.”

Cities such as Norfolk and Miami have embraced the data, identifying inundation zones as a first step toward planning — and seeking federal funds for — sea walls, floodgates and other forms of protection. On lonelier stretches of the U.S. shoreline, however, government aid seems less likely than interference and abandonment, and the forecasts are sparking deep anxiety about the future.

In the Carolinas and Southampton, N.Y., isolated enclaves of ultra-rich shore-front owners have moved preemptively to build private bulkheads to protect their homes from the rising sea. But such fortifications are not an option on the Outer Banks, a string of narrow barrier islands dotted with busy beach towns, isolated fishing villages and stretches of wild seashore. In spots, the islands are barely 100 yards wide.

“We don’t have any tools in our toolbox other than retreat,” Kelly said on a recent morning in a sunny Manteo cafe that would be underwater if the sea were 39 inches higher. “In the backs of their minds, what everyone is thinking is that they just want people off the Outer Banks.”

Long before that would happen, though, Kelly worries that codifying the 39-inch forecast would crush the local economy, which relies entirely on tourism and the construction, sale and rental of family beach houses. In Dare County alone, the islands’ largest jurisdiction, the state has identified more than 8,500 structures, with an assessed value of nearly $1.4 billion, that would be inundated if the tides were 39 inches higher.

Even with an eight-inch forecast, 414 Dare County properties worth $70 million would be marked for inundation. If the state ever activates the Web site that lets potential investors search by address, Kelly said, “all of a sudden, those properties would be worthless.”

Nationwide, $700 billion of coastal property could be below mean sea level by the end of the century — and an additional $730 billion could be at risk at high tide — without new policies to forestall climate change, according to a new report by the Risky Business Project, a high-powered group of financial and political figures who are set to meet Wednesday with senior Obama administration officials.

So far, locals say there is no sign that the housing market on the Outer Banks is suffering. Nags Head’s town manager, Cliff Ogburn, said that the town is doing a booming business in building permits and that “occupancy is as high as it’s ever been,” having rebounded from the dark days before 2011. That is when Nags Head and Dare County spent $36 million to repair severe erosion on 10 miles of beachfront, where encroaching waves had claimed nearly a dozen houses and the seaside swimming pool at the Nags Head Comfort Inn.

Now the beach looks great, the tourists are back and Duck, Kitty Hawk and Kill Devil Hills are talking to the county about beach nourishment projects of their own.

“We lose beach because the water is rising equal to the thickness of two nickels every year,” Bobby Outten, the manager of Dare County, said on a recent tour of the restored shoreline. “Some call it sea-level rise, but from our perspective it’s erosion, and we’ve been living with it forever.”

The arrival of man-made beaches on the Outer Banks has drawn the disapproval of some environmentalists. For generations, the islands have moved with the waves and human settlements have moved with them. These days, however, the islands are so heavily developed, houses threatened by the surf often have nowhere to go.

Beach nourishment offers a temporary solution. But as the sea rises, it “ceases to be cost effective and it becomes obvious that something else has to happen,” said Spencer Rogers, an erosion specialist with North Carolina Sea Grant, a research consortium based at North Carolina State University.

“If things get to the worst extent, then we’re going to be abandoning places,” Rogers said. “There won’t be any option.”

Outten acknowledges that nourishment is a temporary fix, but he argues that it protects property, beautifies the shoreline and keeps the local economy humming. Besides, he said, it’s the only option he’s got.

“What is it you would ask us to do differently right now? Tell people to move away?” Outten said. “Preaching abandonment is absurd. People would go in the closet and get the guns out.”

That’s nearly what happened when local officials caught wind of the 39-inch forecast. The North Carolina Coastal Resources Commission, which regulates land use in the state’s 20 coastal counties, had asked its science panel to assess vulnerability to sea-level rise, which was then becoming a hot topic nationally.

In 2010, the panel reviewed the scientific literature and concluded that the seas along the North Carolina coast could rise anywhere from 15 inches to 55 inches over the coming century, a forecast in line with projections by federal agencies and various other states.

But the science panel took a step further. For planning purposes, it said, the state should figure on 39 inches by 2100. So the commission drafted a policy declaring sea-level rise “a pervasive and persistent hazard” and ordering coastal counties to use the 39-inch forecast for private development and public infrastructure projects.

If adopted, the policy would have made North Carolina the first state to issue such a precise forecast for sea-level rise, said Skip Stiles, who tracks state activity on climate change for Virginia-based Wetlands Watch. Bob Emory, the Coastal Resources Commission’s chairman at the time, said its members “had no idea we were opening up a can of worms.”

The worms hit the fan in January 2011, when the commission rolled out the policy in a closed-door briefing for Carteret County.

“They said there were numerous things the county had to start doing: Raise roads, elevate bridges, rezone land. Any property affected by 39 inches, they wanted to be rezoned as uninhabitable,” said John Droz, a local physicist who was quickly recruited by Carteret County officials to undertake an independent review of the 39-inch forecast.

Emory disputed that account, saying the commission had no intention of demanding such drastic action. “We were not at the stage where there was enough certainty to say you can do this here, you can’t do that there,” he said.

Nonetheless, the Carteret County chairman fired off a letter asking neighboring counties for help “repudiating the proposal.” The science was uncertain, he wrote, there was no assessment of economic impact and there were no maps to show what it all meant.

By July, when Kelly walked into that meeting of federal and state planning officials, the state had maps. And the news was not good.

At 39 inches, the backside of the Outer Banks was gone. So was most of Roanoke Island. Inland, it was worse. On the gentle slope of the piedmont, every foot of sea-level rise would inundate roughly 1,000 acres. Pamlico Sound would look more like the Chesapeake Bay — one of the most profound transformations of coastline predicted anywhere in the country.

Rumors spread, and members of the state’s environmental community fanned the flames, musing publicly about an end to new construction on the Outer Banks and the possible abandonment of Highway 12, the islands’ wave-battered, much-repaired lifeline.

A member of the science panel, geologist Stanley Riggs, published a book likening the islands to a “string of pearls” that would soon be separated by shoals unable to support a fixed highway. In Dare County, this spawned dark jokes about getting to work by kayak.

In 2012, the General Assembly agreed that the state was moving too fast. Lawmakers set aside the 39-inch forecast and ordered the commission to draft new projections that take into account dissenting views on sea-level rise and its causes.

The state’s new Republican governor appointed a new coastal commission chairman, Frank Gorham, an oil and gas man who announced this spring that the new forecast would be limited to 30 years.

With the 100-year forecast, “we just lost credibility,” Gorham said. “If you have a 30-year period, people will take it more seriously.”

Rogers, who has served on the commission’s science panel since its inception, predicts that the new forecast will look pretty much like the old one, which concluded that the sea would rise at roughly historic rates through 2050. Only in the latter half of the century is sea-level rise projected to accelerate sharply. But that lies outside the scope of the new forecast, which is due out next year.

With their bureaucratic victory, coastal leaders are postponing the inevitable, environmentalists say.

“I can see their point. They’re saying, ‘How do we know the sea is going to rise 39 inches in 100 years?’ And the truth is, we don’t. But you’ve got to start planning for something,” said Andrew Coburn, associate director of Western Carolina University’s Program for the Study of Developed Shorelines. “They’re trying to ignore the problem, hoping it will go away.”

Outten, the Dare County manager, says he is not ignoring the forecast, though he does pray it’s wrong.

In the meantime, he said, “it doesn’t seem reasonable to invest today’s tax dollars and punish the public for a problem that is 100 years away and may not exist. We aren’t arguing with science. We’re just trying to be reasonable.”
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on August 04, 2014, 10:23:31 AM
The world almost did end in 2012!

From Discover (bold mine):

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On July 23, 2012, billions of tons of plasma exploded from the Sun and raced out into space in what was one of the most powerful solar storms ever recorded.

And it’s only by chance that Earth wasn’t in the way of this gargantuan coronal mass ejection, or CME.

“If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces,” Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado told NASA.

And that may be putting it mildly. A CME of the size that almost hit us in July of 2012 would probably knock out satellites we depend on for modern telecommunications and also cause global blackouts lasting for months.

Everything that plugs into a wall socket would be disabled. And as NASA puts it, “Most people wouldn’t even be able to flush their toilet because urban water supplies largely rely on electric pumps.”

For a good overview of the solar storm that almost caused this kind of mayhem in 2012, and how it compared to the notorious Carrington event of September, 1859 (which set telegraph lines on fire and caused auroral displays as far south as Cuba), check out the video above.

“I have come away from our recent studies more convinced than ever that Earth and its inhabitants were incredibly fortunate that the 2012 eruption happened when it did,” Baker says. “If the eruption had occurred only one week earlier, Earth would have been in the line of fire.”

The cloud of particles, rocketing outward at 3,000 kilometers per second — more than four times faster than a typical CME — hit NASA’s STEREO-A spacecraft. As a result of its design, and the fact that it travels in interplanetary space (a much safer place, it turns out, that inside Earth’s magnetosphere), the spacecraft survived and transmitted valuable data and imagery back to Earth.


The NASA video above includes some of that imagery. Other spacecraft also captured direct and indirect evidence of the event, and you can see some of that in the video too.

Earth stands about a 12 percent chance of actually being hit by material from a solar storm of this magnitude in the next decade, according to research by physicist Pete Riley published in the journal Space Weather. So it’s not a question of if we’ll be hit; it’s only a question of when. And unfortunately, the world is woefully unprepared to deal with the consequences.


Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on August 07, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
The sun is a fag.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 05, 2015, 05:01:07 PM
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This Is The Video CNN Will Play When The World Ends

Thirty-four years ago, at the launch of Ted Turner's Cable News Network, the founder made a grandiose and specific promise about his newly created round-the-clock operation. "Barring satellite problems, we won't be signing off until the world ends," Turner declared. And in anticipation, he prepared a final video segment for the apocalypse.

....

Since those early years, CNN has grown into a ponderous object in the background, immovably entrenched on cable even as it has been tossed from corporate merger to corporate merger. Born as part of Ted Turner's Turner Broadcasting System, in 1996 it became a part of Time Warner. In 2000 America Online bought Time Warner for $164 billion, and in 2006 Ted Turner himself left the Time Warner board. In 2009, the biggest corporate mistake in history reached its inevitable conclusion, and AOL was spun off from the company it once attempted to dominate.

Through it all there have been monumental culture shifts and budget re-adjustments, ideas tried out and tossed aside. There are few vestiges left of its original promise.

But there is still the video, awaiting its deployment. I was an intern at CNN back in 2009. Specifically, I worked at the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer. Wolf was a nice enough guy, as people from Buffalo tend to be, but that's not really so weird. What was weird was seeing the apocalypse video.

I was originally told about it by a college professor of mine, who had worked at CNN for over 20 years. It sounded mostly like a mythic joke, the kind of thing that Ted Turner, the all-around "eccentric billionaire" archetype, would mention offhand. Bison ranches, the America's Cup, four girlfriends at once, the last word on the last day on earth—why not?

Turner's boast about broadcasting through the end of the world is the kind of thing you hear, in one form or another, from every startup founder. My idea is the best, it will beat all the others, it is here to stay, forever and ever. No, we won't get bought by AOL. And Turner was known for being blustery.

So when Ted Turner said that CNN was going to be playing "Nearer My God To Thee"—the song the band supposedly played when the Titanic went down—as the heavens opened up, as the fiery finger of God rained salt and brimstone from the sky, as the Earth beneath our feet opened from below and swallowed everything above, as the last CNN employee, in the last surviving CNN studio in the world, witnessed the end of existence before them, he meant it.

Should you find yourself watching the apocalypse live on CNN, the last thing you see will emphatically not be in 4K resolution.

It's kept behind its own proverbial glass case. Angry, bold red letters are rendered on the computer screen of anyone who comes near it on CNN's intranet video database, reminding whoever accesses it that there is a grave restriction: Hold for release. CNN, once ever so thorough in its factchecking, knew that the last employee alive couldn't be trusted to make a call as consequential as one from the Book of Revelation. The end of the world must be confirmed.



http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/jalopnik_493-1.mp4
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on April 20, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
Quote
This Is The Video CNN Will Play When The World Ends

Thirty-four years ago, at the launch of Ted Turner's Cable News Network, the founder made a grandiose and specific promise about his newly created round-the-clock operation. "Barring satellite problems, we won't be signing off until the world ends," Turner declared. And in anticipation, he prepared a final video segment for the apocalypse.

....

Since those early years, CNN has grown into a ponderous object in the background, immovably entrenched on cable even as it has been tossed from corporate merger to corporate merger. Born as part of Ted Turner's Turner Broadcasting System, in 1996 it became a part of Time Warner. In 2000 America Online bought Time Warner for $164 billion, and in 2006 Ted Turner himself left the Time Warner board. In 2009, the biggest corporate mistake in history reached its inevitable conclusion, and AOL was spun off from the company it once attempted to dominate.

Through it all there have been monumental culture shifts and budget re-adjustments, ideas tried out and tossed aside. There are few vestiges left of its original promise.

But there is still the video, awaiting its deployment. I was an intern at CNN back in 2009. Specifically, I worked at the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer. Wolf was a nice enough guy, as people from Buffalo tend to be, but that's not really so weird. What was weird was seeing the apocalypse video.

I was originally told about it by a college professor of mine, who had worked at CNN for over 20 years. It sounded mostly like a mythic joke, the kind of thing that Ted Turner, the all-around "eccentric billionaire" archetype, would mention offhand. Bison ranches, the America's Cup, four girlfriends at once, the last word on the last day on earth—why not?

Turner's boast about broadcasting through the end of the world is the kind of thing you hear, in one form or another, from every startup founder. My idea is the best, it will beat all the others, it is here to stay, forever and ever. No, we won't get bought by AOL. And Turner was known for being blustery.

So when Ted Turner said that CNN was going to be playing "Nearer My God To Thee"—the song the band supposedly played when the Titanic went down—as the heavens opened up, as the fiery finger of God rained salt and brimstone from the sky, as the Earth beneath our feet opened from below and swallowed everything above, as the last CNN employee, in the last surviving CNN studio in the world, witnessed the end of existence before them, he meant it.

Should you find yourself watching the apocalypse live on CNN, the last thing you see will emphatically not be in 4K resolution.

It's kept behind its own proverbial glass case. Angry, bold red letters are rendered on the computer screen of anyone who comes near it on CNN's intranet video database, reminding whoever accesses it that there is a grave restriction: Hold for release. CNN, once ever so thorough in its factchecking, knew that the last employee alive couldn't be trusted to make a call as consequential as one from the Book of Revelation. The end of the world must be confirmed.



http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/jalopnik_493-1.mp4



John Oliver is finally catching up with the GS forums!

Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 08, 2015, 02:00:10 PM
Heh-heh. Heh.

http://gawker.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-its-time-to-panic-1716514222 (http://gawker.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-its-time-to-panic-1716514222)

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Ladies and Gentlemen, It's Time to Panic

Have you noticed anything odd going on this morning? Oh yes. Let us be the first to tell you that the time to panic is upon us.

ITEM: The New York City subway system suffered an atrocious commute today, with some trains being inexplicably stranded in stations for long periods of time.

ITEM: The website “The Dissolve” folded today.

ITEM: United Airlines was forced to ground all of its flights after its computer system mysteriously stopped working.

ITEM: The New York Stock Exchange suspended trading today after its computerized trading system mysteriously stopped working.

ITEM: Immediately after, the Wall Street Journal’s website mysteriously stopped working.

ITEM: More than 2,500 people in Washington, DC mysteriously lost power.

It seems our nation’s centers of powers are facing a mysterious and spreading collapse.

I choose to panic. If you choose to remain calm, good—I’ll get away ahead of you.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on July 08, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
That DC power outage is part of a rolling power outage issue related to construction. Been going on since July 1st (when more than 15,000 were without power).

The WSJ, NYSE, and United outages are all very suspicious, though. Not mentioned: Google sync has been in and out over the last 48 hours, and still reports having problems.  Even money says the WSJ simply got slammed when the NYSE went offline.

Now, though, is when we should be paying attention to news out of China!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on July 08, 2015, 03:41:49 PM
Oh!

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/247225-anonymous-issued-cryptic-tweet-on-eve-of-nyse-suspension
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 08, 2015, 03:49:55 PM
Don't fuck with the internet.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on July 10, 2015, 07:16:44 AM
Oh!

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/247225-anonymous-issued-cryptic-tweet-on-eve-of-nyse-suspension

It would make sense to cover up any breaches from purely a business confidence point of view.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 10, 2015, 10:34:06 AM
The NYSE denies it was a hack, but Anonymous seems to be cryptically taking responsibility. Of course, that's their move.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
The NYSE denies it was a hack, but Anonymous seems to be cryptically taking responsibility. Of course, that's their move.

Are they still saying it was a "glitch"? A coordinated "glitch" that infected airlines, subways, powergrids, newspapers, and the stock exchange all within a few hours on the same day? Coincidence? Maybe. 
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on July 10, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
They did mention the 'problem' before it happened.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on August 24, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Um...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-food-water-stockpile-warning-terror-attack-catastrophe-government-terrorism-a7203376.html

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Germany warns its citizens to stockpile emergency food and water in case of terror attack
Germans will have to stock the enough food for ten days and enough water for five days , a newspaper has reported
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on September 28, 2016, 09:23:22 AM
Yay! Panic buying.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on November 07, 2016, 08:34:28 AM
Our modern apocalypse (and, perhaps, apt for this thread) is fracking. And it's starting sooner than we feared:

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Oklahoma shaken by strong earthquake causing 'significant' damage
The magnitude 5.0 earthquake struck close to the town of Cushing, damaging structures downtown and forcing police to evacuate some buildings

That's the second earthquake in the area. Both have been linked to fracking, and USGS has been warning (for...years, along with similar agencies from all around the world) that this is only the beginning. Forget the fact that fracking results in water-borne and airborne carcinogens -- we're going to get swallowed up by sinkholes before the cancer has a chance to kill this entire generation's fracking workers and neighboring communities in the next decade.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 08, 2016, 02:36:05 PM
West Virginia, by the grace of god there ye go.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 10, 2017, 04:25:14 PM
http://gizmodo.com/a-stellar-explosion-could-be-visible-in-the-night-sky-i-1790999540

Humble suggestion: Let's start a lucrative apocalypse cult around this event. Who's in?
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 10, 2017, 10:23:47 PM
We could probably make some money.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 23, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
So if the 1% crowd is prepping for the end, I feel like I should actually be worried. Also, this is super Omega Man.

EDIT:This article is so long, GS wouldn't let me post it.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

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Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 23, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
Worth noting that -- as every farmer and construction worker who has dug up a cache of ancient coins and valuables will tell you -- every generation of the super-rich have been prepping for Doomsday on every continent for the last 8,000 years.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on January 24, 2017, 12:25:22 PM
I'd gladly head up our new cult.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 24, 2017, 12:33:40 PM
I'm actually half serious about this...
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on January 24, 2017, 12:39:46 PM
I get the 15yo girls. I mean disciples.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 30, 2017, 12:09:32 PM
West Virginia is burning.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/parkersburg-west-virginia-fire_us_59f25329e4b077d8dfc88cf6
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 06, 2019, 11:45:28 AM
Everybody do the 'Deep Adaptation.'

I've been on the "Civilization is doomed because of climate change" train for about two years now. Maybe less. It's all those photos and video of the Arctic and Antarctic ice shelf collapsing that did it, though even paying a modicum of attention to the science (and the lack of political response to it) is evidence enough to me that a vast sea change is underway. As I'm fond of saying, we're in the paradigm, so we can't see the paradigm.

I comfort myself by saying the really bad stuff, the Mad Max, Omega Man, PA bad stuff won't be something that needs dealt with until after I'm dead, but papers like the one in this article suggest otherwise.

Missus RC and I haven't made concrete plans but there's constant joking about the WV move being prep for the coming apocalypse. And even my colleagues just kind of shrug when climate change comes up in conversation in a "Well, I guess we lost this one" kind of way.

Anyway, this is a fun read.

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The Climate Change Paper So Depressing It's Sending People to Therapy

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbwpdb/the-climate-change-paper-so-depressing-its-sending-people-to-therapy
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on March 07, 2019, 10:48:55 AM
In terms of "not seeing the paradigm because we're in it," I think that only applies to stupid people. It's very obvious what's been going on for the last...not few years, not few decades, but 240 years. We're only now talking about it because, like bad doctors, we failed to diagnose the problem until the 1970s.

Frankly, I think we've had this coming for a long time. I'm all for the destruction of civilization! We're a wicked, awful race who has paved a road of bones and blood all in the name of same day shipping and streaming services.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on June 18, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
Climate change is real and it’s a monster. No longer have we ‘proper seasons’ - December 2017 in Paris averaged 15°C instead of ~0°C... snow in April/May... floods in June.

It’s impossible to coordinate a seasonal wardrobe.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 18, 2019, 12:26:52 PM
Climate change is real and it’s a monster. No longer have we ‘proper seasons’ - December 2017 in Paris averaged 15°C instead of ~0°C... snow in April/May... floods in June.

It’s impossible to coordinate a seasonal wardrobe.


How I miss Monkey...
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on June 20, 2019, 10:05:01 PM
I am your everything.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 01, 2019, 02:07:57 PM
I am your everything.

*SWOON*
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on July 09, 2019, 09:03:27 PM
You’d best swallow that.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 22, 2019, 06:38:13 PM
This is one of the best essays I've read of late that pinpoints a lot of how I feel about, well, everything.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/the-2010s-have-broken-our-sense-of-time
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on December 24, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
This is one of the best essays I've read of late that pinpoints a lot of how I feel about, well, everything.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/the-2010s-have-broken-our-sense-of-time

Yeah, that's good. There's been a lot of stuff in this vein, too. The 2010s were a diseased decade. A poisoned decade.

Sadly, I don't see it getting better...
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 24, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
Sadly, I don't see it getting better...

Me neither.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 05, 2020, 02:24:00 PM
I keep trying to compartmentalize the fact that Australia is burning as just more of the same shit, but it keeps drawing me back in. It feels like an apocalypse in a movie, rather than just the slow march towards extinction through slow climate change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DOjT3x72TE
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 06, 2020, 03:03:11 PM
Oh, yes. It's the beginning of the end. (Greta Thunberg would correctly say we're actually more towards the middle.)
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 07, 2020, 01:41:16 PM
Greta Thunberg is crazy smart. Like smarter than me and I’m 40. Makes me think we’d be better off in a Logan’s Run situation.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 08, 2020, 12:13:00 PM
Greta Thunberg is crazy smart. Like smarter than me and I’m 40. Makes me think we’d be better off in a Logan’s Run situation.

She's my hero. In gauging smartness, there's an environmental question here. She grew up with a school system that encouraged intelligence and supplied the correct tools for said intelligence regardless of social class. Something that many parts of the world (including the US) is not willing to do.

As the world burns, more and more of our young people who have been given the ability and voice to speak out will start speaking out.

Also, vote AOC when she runs for pres!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 08, 2020, 01:16:08 PM
Vote for this lady when she runs for Prez!

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Instagram model raises $700,000 for Australia fires with nude photos before account deleted

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/07/instagram-model-australia-fires-naked-philanthropist-kaylen-ward-raises-700000-selling-posing-nude-photos-selfies
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 19, 2020, 09:31:55 AM
It is generally accepted that the next pandemic will come out of the east:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/world/asia/china-virus-wuhan-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 20, 2020, 11:21:21 AM
My wife keeps saying we need a purge. I keep telling here that when the super bug hits, odds are she and I will be part of it.

"That's fine," she typically says.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on January 21, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
Yeah, you can't wish for a culling and not expect to be a part of it. Most people I know who want the purge are fine if it takes them as well. We've become more globally minded when it comes to the idea of billions dying -- it's no longer for us, it's for the Earth.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on February 08, 2020, 10:03:42 AM
I don’t want to be culled!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on February 09, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
THE TIME IS NIGH!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on February 10, 2020, 11:56:39 AM
I’ll cull you all!
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 12, 2020, 10:39:39 AM
If by "cull," you mean ply me with liquor and let me catch VD from a Hungarian hooker, I'm in.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on March 18, 2020, 06:31:16 AM
I didn’t.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 01, 2020, 11:40:11 AM
Um...do we have a "they're killing black people" thread? Because the recent shit is amazing. And now they're boarding up downtown Bethesda (Friendship Heights was ransacked by several hundred looters last night). So starting to hit close to home.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: Sirharles on June 01, 2020, 02:10:00 PM
One of my clients is on Pennsylvania Ave.  They barricaded the doors and won't be able to get back in for a few days.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 02, 2020, 08:36:39 AM
So Bethesda is boarded up and the protesters are gathering at the library today across the street from our house.

We took a walk to Friendship Heights yesterday -- smashed windows, boarded up stores, glass all over the street, graffiti, pamphlets everywhere.

Yesterday was technically the start of the phase one reopening. but only one bar in Bethesda opened. The others are starting to board up against the protests. At that one bar last night, MCPD came by and told us to go home before the DC curfew kicked in at 7pm because "they're probably going to come up here again."

Apparently they also shut down the entire Metro system at 7pm, and Bowser stopped buses, taxi service, and Uber/Lyft service. If you were downtown, you were stuck in the sweeps -- lots of stories this morning about DC residents taking protesters in ahead of the sweeps.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 02, 2020, 09:11:50 AM
Um.... Official announcement from Our HOA:

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---------- Original Message ----------
From: VOBHOA
To: VOBHOA
Date: June 1, 2020 at 12:07 AM
Subject: [vob] FW: [vob] Boarding up and Looting
Dear Neighbors:
We wallow in our contradictions when we stand on ramparts overlooking the melee below and cluck despondently about the unpardonable sins of man only to moments later avert the anguished eyes of the sinner when hammering on plywood sheeting to screen the prized artifacts of our community begins to set our teeth on edge. We can’t have it both ways either we are one or we are dust. .  . .
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: Nubbins on June 05, 2020, 02:35:28 AM
This shit is crazy man. Atlanta has been relatively calm, except for a few nights 6 or 7 days ago.

I’m hearing rumblings that the protests are actually getting bigger in DC?

Nacho, you’ve basically got a front row seat to the fall of the republic! Hope you have a gun and some scotch!

Also, where are all the 2nd amendment yokels should we’re clamoring for haircuts a few weeks ago? Oddly silent this week.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 05, 2020, 10:47:16 AM
This shit is crazy man. Atlanta has been relatively calm, except for a few nights 6 or 7 days ago.

I’m hearing rumblings that the protests are actually getting bigger in DC?

Nacho, you’ve basically got a front row seat to the fall of the republic! Hope you have a gun and some scotch!

Also, where are all the 2nd amendment yokels should we’re clamoring for haircuts a few weeks ago? Oddly silent this week.

They're out here. Half of the protests are "COVID is a lie" people, and there were very few masks at the Bethesda protest. Meanwhile, county councilors are being shouted off the stage and attacked at restaurants for holding back phase two. I'm more scared of those protesters than I am the BLM folks.

Half of Bethesda and adjoining burbs (right on the DC line) is boarded up now, with more boards going up every morning. Places that were open throughout the pandemic are now closed because of the protests. Lots of restaurants are under patio seating only during phase one, but the cops are telling them they have to take in their patios before sunset so no one has chairs and tables to throw through windows. This is resulting in the restaurants just giving up and closing, or sticking to pre-Phase One pickup/delivery only.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: Sirharles on June 05, 2020, 12:37:48 PM
One of my clients, a restaurant in DC, got looted yesterday.  They caught it all on video.  I don't think they will release the video to the news but this is what I saw.  And before yous ask, I don't have the video file to upload.

At the time of the looting, 30 well dressed college age black men (you can clearly see faces in the video) climb through a broken window and steal all the liquor and wine bottles from the bar.

Now the catch.  1 minute before the looting a lone, completely masked, male walks by the restaurant and smashes the window...then keeps walking.  Taking nothing. 

The college kids take only the alcohol, leaving TV's, iPads, computers, etc.  They don't smash a several thousand dollar POS, or any thing else.  Clearly a crime of opportunity...if you see the video from a minute before the looting.  But if the video leaks of just the kids taking the alcohol...

Oh by the way...this is the only white owned restaurant on the block.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: nacho on June 08, 2020, 09:43:02 AM
Second protest today. This one in Westbard, specifically about the Moses Cemetery. It and its now abandoned church are on the historic register and are the last of the black neighborhood left over from segregated Bethesda. They're tearing down the church, disinterring the bodies, and moving the cemetery to make way for a condo development.

This has been going on for about five years now, and it's been a powderkeg before. But now the full force of the DC protests are descending on the area at 5pm.
Title: Re: 2012 is Over, but the World is Still Ending
Post by: monkey! on July 19, 2020, 08:03:16 AM
America burning.