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Title: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 20, 2006, 09:38:35 PM
Time to make a thread, since it's on right now.  I loved the pilot.  And I love how CBS describes the show:

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JERICHO is a drama about what happens when a nuclear mushroom cloud suddenly appears on the horizon.

Huh?  Did somebody's three year old cousin write that?

Cass has a better description:

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it's a show about skeet ulrich being skeet ulrich

What it is, really, is Alas, Babylon without the death and Testament without the fucking eye-gouging poor writing and doe-eyed kids shitting in sinks.

Jericho is this itty bitty town out in the middle of nowhere that's full of middle-class patriots who have to make do now that the world's been fucked up by an unexplained nuclear holocaust.  There are the troubled kids, the escaped prisoners, the Barney Fife police, the trouble coming from the city, the black guy who knows how to do shit, the crazy ham operator and, yes, Skeet Ulrich.

So I think episode one is just a rehash of the pilot but... We'll start the ongoing thread that ends up being just me talking about it for 150 posts and then getting mad at the finale.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Tatertots on September 20, 2006, 09:52:50 PM
Got any good torrent links for the first season? I'll give it a look on my stolen DSL connection.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 20, 2006, 09:58:13 PM
Just one episode so far.  Leaked pilot is out there.  Tonight's episode is airing...right now!  But I think it's the same.  Look on Torrentspy, man.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Tatertots on September 20, 2006, 10:12:10 PM
All the public torrents are always flooded with 400 leechers and 2 seeders. I fucking hate that shit.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 20, 2006, 11:37:07 PM
Yeah, episode one is the same as the pilot.  Ah well.  Next week, then!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Tatertots on September 21, 2006, 10:11:17 PM
Hot deaf chick?

Two thumbs up!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Tatertots on September 21, 2006, 11:32:45 PM
Was the lame country music video really necessary in the dead-crows scene? Honestly.

I'll give it 2/5. One for the deaf chick and one for the delicious pizza I just ate.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 22, 2006, 09:03:32 AM
Hot deaf chick?

Two thumbs up!

No shit, man.  She was to die for.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 27, 2006, 09:41:06 AM
So reading all this buzz buzz on Jericho and somewhat shocked about the large number of people complaining how Shoshannah Stern (http://imdb.com/name/nm0998074/) always plays a deaf girl (she's been doing the rounds in "Weeds" as well).  So, first of all, that's kind of a stupid complaint.  And, second...well, I don't see where she has a choice.  Weird.

So, anyway, waiting for the first real episode.  Airs tomorrow but, supposedly, it'll be online tonight...
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on September 28, 2006, 03:10:39 PM
NEW ANALYSIS:  DON'T WATCH THIS FUCKING SHOW!

Basically, this episode is devoted to describing nuclear fallout... For the generation of Americans who didn't live through 60 fucking years of Cold War and haven't ever watched a film or a TV show or read a book.  So Jericho is geared towards the newborn to eight year old audience, I guess.

Last week on Jericho:  Melodrama.

Begin episode:  Adventure climbing!  Black man is smarter than all the crackers. 

Instant stupidity:

Total apocalypse seen on the horizon.  Big nuke clouds, right?  Situation is clear to everybody. Jericho is now all alone and must struggle to survive. Skeet to our doctor girl:  Does the clinic have a fallout shelter?

Doctor Girl:  *perplexed* Yes.  What's going on?

Huh?

Crackers don't trust the black guy because he's educated and, therefore, suspicious.  Education consists of the following:  Seal the windows and doors to stop radioactive dust from getting in and rain from the radioactive cloud will also be radioactive.  How the hell would a black man know that?! 

Cracker: *suspicious glare* Durrr...How do you know this stuff?

Black guy:  Because I was in St. Louis after 9/11!

Huh?

Cut to title sequence and "Jericho" theme song, which sounds an awful lot like the "Rescue 911" theme song, without the swelling brave hero music.

Big stupid comment from the first 10 minutes -- All of the gas stations have been abandoned so the pumps don't work.

HUH?!?!

This fucking show is killing me.  You don't need people there to run the pumps.  What the fuck is that?  How does anyone even think to write that line of dialogue?  Has the writer never ever been to a gas station in his life?  WHAT THE FUCK?!

Sad Scene:  Run to the basement to avoid radioactive cloud.  Guy tells his dog goodbye, kisses it, then goes to his basement.  Dog sits there and sadly watches him leave.

Dude -- I think there's room for the dog in your basement.

Deputy Mayor:  Do you realize a nuclear bomb went off yesterday!  There's a radioactive cloud heading this way!

Cracker:  So?  If I'm gonna die in a nuclear blast, I'm going to do it right here, playing pool with my friends.

DM:  But you aren't going to die in a blast.  *dramatic beat*  You're going to get radiation poisoning.  *describes it*

Cracker:  *GASP!*


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So a couple of escaped prisoners grab our cop boys in the first episode, right?  Again, it’s no secret that the world has ended.  Instead of killing our cop boys (as was suggested in the pilot, but removed in the redone first episode), they just capture them, gag them, and put them in the trunk of the car.  We are reminded of this when, after grabbing a girl, one of the disguised prisoners opens the trunk and says to the seemingly unconscious, gagged and bound cops:  Make a sound and you die.

This is said to them after prisoner number two has already taken the girl far from the car.  So he’s just warned the cops to not make a sound in an empty car in a field far away from our damsel in distress.  What?  So they don’t disturb the birds or something?

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Hot deaf girl scene!

Deaf Girl: *Deaf girl retard talk amounting to “hello” and the damsel in distress’s name*

Disguised Prisoner:  *two-for-one special rape face*

Deaf Girl:  *not at all suspicious to see an unfamiliar face in her population 5000 Jericho sheriff’s uniform*

Kids…a town of 5000.  The police force is seven guys.  That deaf girl has seen every cop   in town about one million times in her life.  So a stranger, in uniform, showing up on your doorstep?  That’s whip out the shotgun time.


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Situation -- The vent fan in the shelter’s not working.  It needs a new belt.

Skeet’s New Girl Interest:  It needs a fanbelt.  Any mid century American car will do.

Mid century American car?  Who talks like that?  Hey, I own a mid century American car!  Oh, wait, no, that’s a car that’s 56 years old.  Let’s just pop right out there and find a 57 Chevy because the cloud’s coming in less than 30 minutes.

My Acura’s 1990.  I’m going to refer to it from now on as a late century Japanese car.


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Deaf Girl Adventure Scene.  She’s able to follow and participate fully in a conversation even when she’s not looking at the people talking.

Damsel in distress distracts prisoners long enough to grab a display case gun and THREE of the six bullets in the case.  Because if you’re going to shoot your way to freedom, you don’t want to have too many bullets weighing you down.

Damsel in distress, sneaking out of the second floor window, casually jumps one story and lands on her feet without any sign of trouble.  The jump is the most artificial and clumsy stunt I’ve seen.  She just sort of hops off the roof and plops down on the ground with a very small half-roll forward onto her knees and a polite little “Oof.”  I don’t know…that’s a bit of a jump.

The shootout is so stupid I can’t even begin to describe it.  The damsel and the prisoner are ten feet from each other, guns drawn, and the prisoner cracks off about a half dozen shots to her right trying to shoot Skeet in the far distance while the damsel just stands there, gun aimed, waiting for him to finish squeezing off those shots.

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Things not to do:  Black guy gets a lengthy message over the ham radio in Morse code.  He copies it down.  It is NOT shown to us, and he lies about receiving it.  “I can’t get this old thing to work.”

Look – that’s fucking cheap writing.  You don’t do that.  You don’t build suspense that way.  It’s not how things work.  It’s write by numbers bullshit.  It’s how you write a script when you’re too stupid to develop characters or plot.

To develop our characters, we are constantly having people ask them how they learned to do whatever they are doing.  The reply is almost always “I knew a guy once” or stuff like the St. Louis 9/11 routine.

In this episode, four characters are questioned on how they learned their little tricks, all with non-answer replies.  It is possible that there is no script for this show.


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Blow up the entrance to the mine.

All clear!

*contact*

*BOOM*

Multiple screen cut showing the explosion.  About a dozen of them.  Cut to close up, to medium shot, to long shot, to side shot, looking up, looking down, closer in, a little bit out, the other side.  Cut-cut-cut-cut.

Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 28, 2006, 03:15:21 PM
That sounds dreadful.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
I was kind of wondering about how Nacho loved it when all the reviews were ripping it apart...
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Cassander on October 03, 2006, 07:47:54 PM
the pilot was good....but, whatever.  fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on July 30, 2007, 04:36:07 PM
Okay, I'm going to give Jericho another try, thanks to all this press.  50,000 pounds of nuts can't be wrong!

I'm told that the first six episodes are alarmingly bad, and then it gets passable, and then it gets interesting for the finale.  (That's the Lost formula.)

I just can't turn my back so completely on a post-apocalypse story. 
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on October 15, 2007, 12:18:11 PM
Hold it!  I just gave it a second chance... Or third chance, I guess.  I started up after the lousy pilot, where I left off, and plowed through the season... It's problematic, there are some lame sub-plots, but it's good once you settle in.  The stupid romances and relationship shit is useless, but they keep that stuff pretty short.  For the most part, they do a good job with the whole end of the world thing...and they get extra points for showing wear and tear on the set.  By the end of the season, five months have passed since the bombs went off.  Jericho's main street and buildings start to gradually show weathering since, of course, they don't have the equipment or manpower to rebuild things as they decay.  Very nice touch.

Struggling to keep society from falling apart, and eventually becoming embroiled in a battle with the neighboring town, the whole Alas, Babylon thing plays out wonderfully.  The only sub-plot worth paying attention to is Hawkins -- with his secrets (that I complained about when watching the pilot) that slowly come to light as the season moves on, and leads up to the fuck-you finale that's just a notch below Farscape's series finale.  So, yeah, don't push through the first season until the second season is announced, because you'll be pissed.

So... I don't know.  I'm still kind of lukewarm on it, because of the stupid relationship stuff.  Hawkins has his family he's got to deal with, and everybody's got unrequited love issues, and the good brother is a lousy actor, and Gerald McRaney spends the first quarter of the series with the flu and low on air, only to return to be a sort of nothing character after the town holds an election.    Then he's poorly treated in the finale, which pissed me off... Though leads into second season news today:  They're ousting all the old folks, trying to make the show appeal to a younger audience.  Pamela Reed (who plays the mom):

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"The average age of actors on that show is under 40, and those of us over 40 are gone," the 58-year-old actress said, according to Film Stew. Reed made the comments during a panel on ageism at the Los Angeles Femme Film Festival.

Just because she is without a contract doesn't mean she's necessarily off the show as she is scheduled to appear in at least one of the short-order episodes already produced for the show's abbreviated second season. But it does mean that if "Jericho" is to survive for a third season, it could do so without Mrs. Green.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on November 29, 2007, 10:08:54 AM
Well I finally decided to queue this up and watch it.  Only about six episodes in but it does have me wanting more.  I've always like Ulrich, and his characters mysterious past has me intrigued.  He seems to know how to do everything.  The Hawkins character REALLY needs to lose the family but other than that it seems like a decent show. 
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on November 29, 2007, 10:32:13 AM
Yeah, there's lots wrong with Jericho... But it still gets you addicted.  By the time you get to the finale, you're forgiving all the retarded parts.

No word on the second season, though.  You'll be mad come the finale.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on November 29, 2007, 10:34:23 AM
If I know that it will probably be the last episode it'll be fine.  I mean it can't be any worse than watching the last episode for Firefly.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on November 29, 2007, 10:38:50 AM
It's not the last.  We get half a season coming up in the winter/spring.  The plan being to wrap up all the shit they left hanging in the finale.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on November 29, 2007, 10:43:19 AM
Have to TiVo it up when it airs.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on December 04, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
And this might be a perfect storm for Jericho, in terms of getting a renewal.

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Sources told SyFy Portal just ahead of CBS' mid-season scheduling announcement that the network is gearing up for a premiere of "Jericho's" second season during the last week of January. The source wasn't too far off, however, as CBS has instead announced the show will premiere Feb. 12. "Jericho" is the only regular scripted program getting that late of a start into the new mid-season.

"There isn't a lot of fare out there, so this could be a chance to help the network shine during sweeps," the source said. "The higher-ups here are paying attention to overall scheduling, and they're looking to do everything they can to make sure 'Jericho' isn't up against 'American Idol.'"

CBS announced last summer that "Jericho" would return for a shortened second season of seven episodes, but made it clear the show would be a mid-season replacement. It's unclear what would have to make room for "Jericho" to hit the air, but the ongoing Writers Guild of America strike may be helping it.

"Jericho" will air Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET, which means no competition at all from Fox, and limited competition from the other networks. Right now, NBC and ABC air "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" and "Boston Legal" in that timeslot, but it's unclear what exactly the networks will have their come February because of the strike-shortened seasons of those shows.

CBS currently airs "Cane" in the timeslot.

"There will be a few shows leaving the [schedule] because of ratings, but with writers on the picket lines, the net can be far more creative in how they schedule the show," the source said. "While the other nets will be depending on reality skeins, CBS wants to give a one-two punch with some strong scripted programming just in time for sweeps."

"Sweeps" is a period once each quarter where Nielsen Media Research provides more extensive audience demographic breakdowns in its top markets, data the networks depend on when setting advertising rates.

"Jericho" originally premiered in September 2006, but took a long break until mid-February earlier this year to lost more than a quarter of its audience, and face tough competition from Fox's reality programming. Other shows also suffered strong drop-offs following long mid-season breaks including "Lost" on ABC and "Heroes" on NBC.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2007, 12:02:39 PM
Well good, I have the last discs coming in the mail today so in Feb I can catch up.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on December 19, 2007, 05:45:18 PM
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Stanley Richmond (Brad Beyer) made a promise to ask former snob Mimi Clark (Alicia Coppola) to marry him and it looks like Season 2 will deliver on that promise as Mimi and Stanley decide to tie the knot.

"We get engaged," Alicia Coppola told TV Guide. "It's wonderful how it happens, in typical Mimi/Stanley fashion. It's funny, warmhearted and fuzzy."

Coppola was pretty unforthcoming about any other storylines, except that tension between the towns Jericho and New Bern will grow.

"It's really to the point now where Jericho doesn't know whether or not we really are going to be able to forge ahead. I can't give away too much, but it's going to be exciting," she said.

Coppola was free to show her appreciation of the fans that "single-handedly brought us back."

The new Season 2 trailer is now available on the Web

http://www.fanpop.com/external/530346

Not much to the preview.  God bless the Allied States of America!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 08, 2008, 06:25:59 AM
And the first three episodes of season two are online!  Should get them in me tonight.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 01:27:32 PM
Okay!  Six hours of chores done.  12:30 on a sunny, warm Saturday.  Time to draw the curtains and watch the first half of season two.  *loser*
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 02:03:30 PM
Nice.  We're now six months after the nukes and one month after the season one finale.  After a quick prologue setting the stage for the second season, we're off into a world of peace and renewal... The bombs are blamed on the Iranians and the Koreans, a fascist pseudo-dictatorship rules the States west of the Mississippi, and all the States east of the river are in chaos.  But nothing's easy... Fun first episode.  Already hoping season two gets the ratings to continue the story.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 02:50:58 PM
So, lessons learned... They've taken out most of the lovey dovey shit.  Farm boy still has tax girl and all that is going on, but all the other retarded shit is settled and everyone's caught up in the screwiness of the new regime:  The western US government in Cheyenne versus the eastern US government in Columbus with a newly independent Texas playing the two off of each other.  The western government is generally evil, as we knew at the end of season one, but Jericho, of course, falls right under their command...and is the epicenter of intrigue since that's where Hawkins and his bomb is hiding out and the Big Bad, who we again met at the end of season one, is vaguely clued in about that.

Beautifully done how the ray of sunshine brought by the soldiers of the western government, along with TV and power and gas, is tarnished by their bad guy status from the get-go.  The show doesn't try to gloss over the big reveal at the end of season one that the new America is fucked up.  We continue on without any changes.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on January 12, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
*chews popcorn, takes long sip of large Pepsi*
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 03:51:40 PM
Man, episode two feels like a full on movie.  Everything's upside down for poor little Skeet Ulrich, and the pretty boy president of the western states is in town.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on January 12, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
*laughs at Skeet Ulrich reference, popcorn spewing out his mouth*
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 04:11:42 PM
One of the drawbacks of Jericho -- All Skeet all the time.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 12, 2008, 05:21:42 PM
My oh my... Three solid episodes.  Episode three sees the western US leaning more and more on private security firms.  The nefarious Ravenwood, from the first season.  The parent company of which happens to control the only vaccine for the Hudson River Virus, which has jumped the Mississippi and now stalks the western US.

I have to wait a month for the last four episodes, unless they leak, but, god, season two is smartly delivered.  If they don't see a renewal, this is just torture... What was a mediocre show that got canceled is now a great apocalypse drama that seems to have no chances of renewal, even if it does well.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2008, 07:37:39 AM
Also very happy to see good responses all around in the blogs, etc.  Maybe this show has a chance at renewal after all.

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To most fans it came as quite a shock when CBS announced the cancellation of Jericho March last year. The show had a huge fanbase, and several blogs and communities organized protests to revive the show.

Jeff Braverman, one of the most loyal fans, even went as far as dumping 5,000 pounds of nuts at the CBS offices in New York. CBS’s Vice President of Communications, Chris Ender said that the Jericho protests were the biggest they’d ever seen: “It’s been an impressive display of passion from a loyal audience. You have to tip your hat to their ability to get attention and make some noise.”

Initially CBS, who donated the nuts to charities, wasn’t planning on reviving the show, but after more fans went nuts they eventually did. The official premiere date of the second season was set for February 12, 2008, but today, several weeks before the planned return, the first three episodes of season 2 (ripped from a promotional DVDscreener) are already uploaded to several BitTorrent sites. Perhaps the recent leaks are a gift to the dedicated fans of the show?

It certainly wouldn’t be the first time that TV-shows were leaked on purpose. Last fall an unusually large number of pre-air TV shows appeared on BitTorrent sites, in some cases several months before their scheduled air dates. Many of those leaks appear to be inside jobs, and TV executives are starting to realize that leaking shows to BitTorrent can help promote them.

Whether Jericho was leaked on purpose remains unclear, but I guess the thousands of fans who already downloaded the show today don’t really care where it came from.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 25, 2008, 01:13:12 PM
Things are looking good... I hope the show gets a full season, because it's just now starting to rock.  The leaked episodes have me dying for more...


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CBS will know sooner rather than later whether or not they will allow "Jericho" to keep on living past its second season, but fans may get a little help from a new rebroadcasting deal the post-apocalyptic series has made with the SciFi Channel.

Carol Barbee, the executive producer of the series that fans saved with nothing more than a few measly ton of nuts, said a decision by network on whether or not to renew the series could come before February ends.

"I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that probably, they usually start to have an opinion around the third airing," Barbee recently told SciFi Wire. "So usually by then your fate can be sealed in terms of it not going well. They may wait another week or so if it is going well for us to order more."

"Jericho" got the ax originally when CBS ordered an extended mid-season break for the series last year, causing some fans to not even realize it had returned to the airwaves. While viewership did drop, they numbers were still pretty strong, and it was fully expected the show would return for a second season. However, a last-minute change of heart from CBS angered fans, and they organized to bring "Jericho" back for seven episodes -- something that has helped CBS in a strike-shortened season.

That strike, which is a battle between studios and the Writers Guild of America, means there will be less scripted competition on the air for the show when it returns. That, plus the tremendous media hype it got when it was canceled and resurrected, could be huge bonuses for the show when it does return.

"Obviously they can't order any more if the writers strike is still going on, but I would imagine I would get a phone call, and you know, start thinking about Season 3," Barbee said. "If there's any good that comes out of the writers strike, I'm hoping -- besides a good deal -- I'm hoping it's in favor of 'Jericho.'"

Just as Barbee was talking about some guarded optimism for the show, SciFi Channel announced that it had picked up cable rights for the series from CBS Television Distribution.

As part of the deal, SciFi will be allowed to broadcast both the first and second seasons, beginning Feb. 11 with a four-episode marathon beginning at 7 p.m. ET. After that, the series will air Mondays at 10 p.m. ET, and also simulcast the series in high-definition on the network's HD channel.

"Jericho" itself will return to CBS with new episodes beginning Feb. 12 at 10 p.m. ET.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on February 12, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Well, tonight's the official release.  I shouldn't have watched the leaked episodes, I've been going crazy! 

Let's hope this show catches on this time around, then.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on February 13, 2008, 04:18:05 PM
Ouch.

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It can be nowhere but up from here for "Jericho" if it wants to survive into a third season.

The resurrected CBS post-apocalyptic series earned a 4.2 rating/7 share Tuesday night in its highly publicized return, enough to take last place in the 10 p.m. hour behind a rerun of "Law & Order: SVU" on NBC and a new "Boston Legal" on ABC. Those numbers are according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research.

That gives "Jericho" the lowest turnout for a genre show premiere this season among shows on major networks, the closest premiere coming from "Moonlight," which premiered with a 5.8/11 for CBS at the beginning of the season.

However, the numbers may not be entirely viewers' fault. "Jericho's" lead-in, the reality series "Big Brother 9," earned only a 4.6/7 in the previous hour, according to Zap2it, as it was beaten up on by "American Idol" on Fox and "The Biggest Loser" on ABC. "Jericho" lost just under 9 percent of the audience that tuned in for "Big Brother," which isn't terribly bad for a lead-out show.

At the same time, "Jericho's" premiere rating -- if it doesn't fall too low in coming weeks -- will end up being in line with "Chuck" on NBC. Unfortunately, it could fall just slightly and be pulling in "Bionic Woman" numbers, which would not be good for the show.

Thanks to a strong repeat of "NCIS" against "American Idol," CBS finished second for the night with a 5.5/8, well behind the 16.7/25 earned by Fox. NBC was third with 5.1/8 while ABC managed only a 3.7/6.

Fast Nationals usually provide a snapshot of what Americans are watching by pulling numbers from the top urban markets that includes both live viewing and same-day timeshifted viewing. A rating point generally represents more than 1.1 million households while the share indicates the percentage of televisions turned on that was tuned to the specific program. These numbers typically shift when final ratings are issued.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on February 20, 2008, 03:44:59 PM
This is Sci-Fi Channel thinking.

(1) Bring show back

(2) Leak first three episodes

(3) Get mad that no one is watching the first three episodes when they air months later and cancel the show.

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Fans may want to get their stashes of nuts ready to send again, because it doesn't look promising that "Jericho" will be back for a third season.

The second episode of the new abbreviated season pulled in a 3.9 rating/7 share, according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research. That was a 7 percent drop over its season premiere. While that would normally constitute a decent retention of audience from a publicized premiere, "Jericho" really had room to go up, not down, and the show is not making a case to CBS executives that it should return again in the fall.

"Jericho" finished last in the timeslot behind a rerun of "Law & Order: SVU" (6.2/11) on NBC and a rerun of "Boston Legal" (4.9/9) on ABC, according to Zap2it. It didn't get a lot of help from its lead-in programming, "Big Brother: Til Death Do You Part" which had ratings only slightly higher than "Jericho." Most of the Tuesday schedule was pounded by "American Idol" on Fox.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on February 22, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
Bastards...

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It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.

Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

"There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to do what [CBS] had to do."

Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho" struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part of mainstream viewing habits.

At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show, and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have room to change their mind.

"If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho' campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on March 03, 2008, 04:18:49 PM
The second season sucks.  They needed to just keep with the two towns battling each other.  The first two episodes were painful to watch.  The third was a bit better but not by much.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2008, 04:22:42 PM
What?  No way!  Season two is awesome.  You can't have that Postman thing going on forever.  They're going to form a government.  And this is great -- instead of two towns, we get two Americas going after each other.  And one of them riddled with the people who let the bombs off.  It's perfect.  It's what season two of Jeremiah wanted to be... 

The best part of a post-apocalypse story is the rebuilding part. 
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on March 03, 2008, 04:24:55 PM
It's lost me.  At least the hot deaf girl is getting more screen time.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2008, 04:31:39 PM
Well, it is a major change from season one.  Budget's cut, cast is cut... I certainly noticed that. 

And, yes, hot deaf girl needs her own hot deaf show.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2008, 04:32:34 PM
Well, it is a major change from season one.  Budget's cut, cast is cut... I certainly noticed that. 

And, yes, hot deaf girl needs her own hot deaf show.

And, now, signing in the nude!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on March 03, 2008, 04:34:20 PM
That she does.  But this show just seemed to really miss an opportunity to have the town go slowly into madness.  Now that would have been great.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 03, 2008, 04:47:10 PM
Yeah, they could have gone in a direction where Jericho becomes the seat of power... I would have liked that.  Blow apart the New Bern troops and then not so quietly take over.

And I was a little rolleyes when the Blackwater troops came back and were all, I told you so! 
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 06, 2008, 12:05:03 AM
IAt least the hot deaf girl is getting more screen time.

Just watched episode four.  Now I'm depressed.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 08, 2008, 07:44:08 PM
So the production staff and everyone have been reassigned to a new pilot.  Jericho is pretty much a lost cause.

Except...the fans have, once again, taken up the flag.  They won a second season... Will a similar write-in campaign make any difference?
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2008, 11:20:40 AM
So, with Jericho getting canned (today's news), let's discuss what went wrong with the comeback season.

In a way, Sirharles is correct in his criticism of the season.  While I support having the show's world move into a rebuilding phase, you can't completely reboot it with that and introduce a flood of little subplots and new characters if you just have a seven episode run.  They're writing the show as if there are 20 episodes this season... Episode five continues to meander around the suddenly not-so-bad post-nuclear world catching up with poor little Jericho. 

The seven episode run was no surprise.  Why not pack it full of more insanity?  Where are the road gangs?  The rogue towns?  The insane hill people?  We barely have a strong enough presence to police New Orleans after a flood, are they telling me that there are enough organized troops left to completely pacify the country?

Part of the reasoning behind having wholly functional governments so quickly is that the bombs only killed a relatively small number of people.  Which is a cop out. 

23 cities are destroyed. EMP blasts blow out the rest of the country.  We manage to launch a massive nuclear strike on Iran and Korea. 

But, no problem.  In comes the army, and the private contractors, and all taxes are forgiven, and life starts up again.  We're to believe that the entire country wouldn't go insane?  And, during half a year or more of no government and no aid, civilization doesn't end?  Jericho was sitting on a wealth of resources and avoided the fallout and they still struggled to survive through the first season.

Season two pulled every punch in season one and made a grab for a weird sort of political soap opera.  And all the post-apocalypse stuff is gone.  No more bandits, no more abandoned towns, even Jericho has power and water and new streets.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2008, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: Hollywood Reporter
"Jericho." CBS must make this decision quickly since only two episodes remain in Season 2 and the network has to choose Ending A or Ending B. Two conclusions to the season have been shot. One puts a narrative lid on the series (lest protesting fans pelt CBS executives with thousands of pounds of nuts again), the other more of a cliffhanger. CBS notes that the show gains from DVR viewership and online viewing, but after its performance the past two weeks, most doubt the citizens of "Jericho" will live to fight another season.


 
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2008, 10:53:52 PM
I've heard it's been canceled...
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2008, 10:54:56 PM
Scuttlebutt is that cancellation is indeed where the series is headed.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 25, 2008, 07:36:38 AM
And there we go, last words from the producer.  (Lots of talk elsewhere that Sci-Fi is going to pick up a third season.)

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Carol Barbee, executive producer of CBS' canceled post-apocalyptic series Jericho, told SCI FI Wire that talks are ongoing to find the show another home, perhaps on a cable network.

"I can't really say [much] about specifics, and, ... partially, it's because I'm not the one having those conversations," Barbee said in an interview on March 24, the eve of the show's final episode. "[CBS] Paramount [Television, which produces the show,] has been pursing it, and our agents have been into that, so, you know, I am pushing those people and coming up with ideas to have those people pursue."

Barbee wouldn't offer details about any talks. "There were several ideas that have been floated, and there was some interest, but we'll have to see," she said. "It wasn't something that could be sewn up before we were going to air the finale. ... It would have been better had we been able to announce one with the other, but it just didn't happen that fast."

Barbee said that she and the show's cast and crew got official word of the show's cancellation at the end of last week, in time to choose one of two endings for the season finale: A cliffhanger or a series ender. "We were told that they were having a meeting on Thursday, ... internally at CBS, to decide which of the endings to show for this Tuesday night's finale, and then we were given the heads up after that meeting that they were going to show the alternate [ending, with the series finale], which obviously to us meant that we were going to finish our run on CBS," Barbee said. Barbee asked CBS to delay its formal announcement for 24 hours so she could inform the cast and crew; the news broke on Friday.

If Jericho is not picked up for another season by a TV network, Barbee said that she could envision it living on in some other form. "There's definitely an Internet series to be had, and we always talked about a graphic novel, and ... a movie," Barbee said. "I mean, there are lots of things that I could easily see as a way to continue the story."

But time may be running out. Jericho wrapped its second season of episodes back in November, just as the writers' strike was beginning. Since then, the cast and crew have been freed to pursue other projects, and the show's sets and backlot have been dismantled and either destroyed or put into storage. Barbee herself has moved on to another series, Swingtown, created by Jericho alumnus Mike Kelley, about the lives of couples experimenting with sexual and social mores in a 1970s Chicago suburb, which will air on CBS this summer and is shooting on the same stages once occupied by Jericho.

Looking back on Jericho, Barbee was pleased that it attracted a core of diehard fans who were responsible for getting CBS to resurrect the show for a second season. "We appreciated the second life that we had, and we feel like we've made the most of it, and we will just be forever indebted to the fans for taking us on this amazing ride," she said. "I think it will always be a highlight in our careers, that we got to be a part of that." Jericho's finale, "Patriots and Tyrants," airs March 25 at 10 p.m. ET/PT.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on March 25, 2008, 08:00:45 AM
First season....great!  Second season....I've seen porn with better story lines.  It needs to just go away.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on April 04, 2008, 05:34:04 PM
So, anyway, I finished this show last week.  Fucking weak ending.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on April 08, 2008, 10:29:28 AM
In the kicking a dead horse department...

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It worked for DirecTV and NBC when it came to "Friday Night Lights," why not between CBS and Comcast for "Jericho"?

Although nothing is set in stone, it appears that Comcast is interested in putting together a production deal that could keep the fan-favorite "Jericho" on for a third season by footing some of the bill, at least that's what The New York Times is reporting.

Such a deal, if it were to happen (and that's a big "if"), likely would focus on Comcast paying part of the show's production cost in return for its right to air the show to its subscribers first. After that, it would air on the network. That is, if they follow a similar model to how DirecTV and NBC are producing 13 episodes of "Friday Night Lights."

Don't get too excited yet. Such discussions are still in very early stages, and it's unclear whether they will be finalized. But if it does, it will mean some of "Jericho's" most dedicated fans won't have to worry about collecting tons of nuts again.

CBS cancelled "Jericho" last month after a seven-episode resurrection on the network that lost 3 million viewers. Many analysts and fans have blamed the scheduling as one of the main contributing factors to the audience loss, as the Tuesday 10 p.m. schedule eliminated some potential viewers, and a poor lead-in from reality show "Big Brother" didn't help matters very much.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on April 08, 2008, 10:50:21 AM
Yeah I saw this.....and Firefly can't get picked up.  I mean what the hell!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on April 08, 2008, 10:53:23 AM
In all fairness, FOX executed Firefly.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on April 08, 2008, 10:54:35 AM
I don't get it, either.  Why pick up the show that has failed in ratings TWICE?  That's like backing a German war machine today.  Nothing can possibly go wrong!
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on April 08, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
In all fairness, FOX executed Firefly.

And then, when the first bullet to the head didn't kill it, FOX emptied all its chambers.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on April 08, 2008, 10:59:11 AM
Or what about Farscape?  Or Dead Like Me?  Or Stargate?  Shows that were not executed, and did well (or are expected to do well) in post-cancellation movies?
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Matt on April 08, 2008, 12:59:46 PM
Farscape was still executed, they just let them struggle and flop around for a bit after the first bullet.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 16, 2009, 09:46:24 AM
Oh, god... Make it stop.


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Jon Turteltaub, one of the executive producers of CBS' defunct Jericho, told iF Magazine that he and his partners are developing a feature-film version of the post-apocalyptic series.

"We're developing a feature for Jericho," Turteltaub told the magazine. "It would not require you to have seen the TV show, but it get into life after an event like this on a national scale. It would be the bigger, full on American version of what's going on beyond the town in Jericho."

Jericho starred Skeet Ulrich and Ashley Scott and told the story of the survivors in a small Kansas town of a nuclear attack on the United States. Canceled by CBS after a lackluster first season, the show came back for a short second season after the network acceded to a massive fan campaign—involving the mailing of tons of peanuts. When the ratings failed to improve, the show ended with a series finale that wrapped up the storyline.

Turteltaub, who also directed many of the series' episodes, added that he hopes to get the cast back. "Oh yeah!" he said. And would it be a huge budget? "Anything would be a huge budget compared to what we were dealing with," he said. "If we had $40 million dollars to make a movie with, that's 20 times more than we did before."
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on January 16, 2009, 09:51:58 AM
IF and that's a big IF, they go back to the first season and use that, it could be okay.  The whole town vs. town, not knowing what the hell was going on was great.  But if they do the second season crap of politics and bullshit.....well, just put a fork in my eye.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on January 16, 2009, 09:54:37 AM
Yeah.  I just don't get what they were thinking with season two.  That massive outpouring of support from the fans was because of season one, people.  GIVE US MORE OF THAT!  Duh.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: Sirharles on January 16, 2009, 09:56:36 AM
Just a huge waste of potential....just like Jumper, and Firefly, and Keen Eddie, and......
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on March 18, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
Ugh.

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Dan Shotz, co-executive producer of CBS' canceled post-apocalyptic drama Jericho, told SCI FI Wire that he and his fellow writer/producers are indeed serious about developing a feature film based on the cult show.

"It's not just wishful thinking," Shotz said in an exclusive interview Tuesday at CBS Studios in Studio City, Calif., where he screened the pilot of his new series, Harper's Island. He added: "We've ... been developing a feature to hopefully make, because we would love to. I mean, ... Jericho is so built in a way, ... especially where we left off season two, to create a feature. So our hope is to launch this comic-book series and then with the development at the same time of the feature, hopefully get that launched as well."
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 01, 2012, 09:25:42 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Netflix-Jericho-1046804.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Netflix-Jericho-1046804.aspx)

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Exclusive: Will Netflix Give Jericho (Another) New Life?

Apocalypse now? TV Guide Magazine confirms that Netflix has approached CBS about reviving cult fave Jericho — and the network, through its CBS TV Studios production arm, is considering it. The drama, which followed the residents of a small Kansas town in the wake of a nuclear attack, has been off the air since 2008.

Repeats of Jericho remain popular on Netflix's on-demand service, even four years after the show's cancellation. Insiders say Netflix execs would love to emulate the revival of Fox's Arrested Development, which is expected to return on Netflix with new episodes in 2013, seven years after the show ended its run. Like Arrested fans, Jericho's are a passionate bunch: CBS renewed the post-apocalyptic show for a second season in 2007 after viewers bombarded the network with cases of peanuts.

Talks are still in preliminary stages, and insiders warn that it's too soon to celebrate, as there are still many hurdles to overcome before a deal is struck. Making it financially viable for both Netflix and CBS may be the biggest challenge of them all. It's unclear how much more original programming makes sense for Netflix, which is already committed to two seasons of the original Kevin Spacey drama House of Cards (from David Fincher) in addition to Arrested. Also, due to concerns over its subscriber levels, Netflix has seen its share price drop more than 25 percent in the past month.

Before a third season of Jericho can happen, rounding up the stars and exec producers, many of whom are working on other projects, will take time. Past attempts at a Jericho return haven't panned out, such as stalled talks with Comcast to continue Jericho in a fashion similar to Friday Night Lights. Executive producer Jon Turteltaub said in 2009 that he was developing a movie, but that also didn't go anywhere. So far, only Jericho comic books have made it to production (a new edition hits stands this summer).

But never say die: Attempts at a Jericho revival mirrors the "it's happening/it's not happening" dance that Arrested Development fans have experienced over the years, but that's on the cusp of finally coming true. Other series resurrected from the dead in recent years include Family Guy and Futurama. And at least some of the cast could conceivably be available: Star Skeet Ulrich was last seen on NBC's Law & Order: L.A., while Lennie James was on The Prisoner, Hung and the series opener to The Walking Dead (although he's currently in the ABC pilot Gotham).

Netflix has shown that it will open up the pocketbook for something it really wants. Arrested Development seemed on course to land at Showtime, until the streaming service swooped in and nabbed the cult fave comedy. In the case of Jericho, even CBS boss Leslie Moonves has hinted that it's a possibility. In February, Moonves revealed at an investor conference that CBS was in discussions with Netflix about potentially doing a show together — and yes, it's believed he was referring to Jericho. CBS declined comment.
Title: Re: Jericho
Post by: nacho on May 02, 2012, 08:27:01 AM
Oh, man... Of all the cult shows to revive, they go for Jericho? They'd have to retcon the entire abysmal second season.