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Title: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 14, 2006, 10:17:33 AM
July and August is pilot shooting season out in L.A. which means all the scripts are getting polished right now. What Lost, BSG, and Commander in Chief rip-offs can we expect this year? Read on:

Quote from: Ain't It Cool News
* “JERICHO” (CBS): A small Kansas town is cut off from the rest of the world when a sudden nuclear war makes all the big towns evaporate.

* “HEROES” (ABC): People all over the world begin to discover that they have super-powers.

* “A HOUSE DIVIDED” (ABC): A liberal Democrat is elected president (making this the most unlikely of the sci-fi premises discussed here) and a red state (Kansas again!) secedes from the union, precipitating The American Civil War II!

* “UNTITLED ZOMBIE PROJECT” (FOX): An apparent “homage” to “Dawn of the Dead” from Kevin Williamson, the “genius” screenwriter who gave us “Dawson’s Creek,” “Glory Days,” “I Know What You Did Last Summer,” the first two “Scream” movies, “Cursed” and “Teaching Mrs. Tingle.”


And more details:

Quote from: Ain't It Cool News
Thought I'd drop word on what's worth getting excited about for the next television season. And there are things worth getting excited about. I thought we'd first take a look at the pilot scripts that hit the sci-fi/horror/supernatural vein pretty hard, since we're all geek addicts, and that stuff is our heroin.
Of course the breakout hit two years ago was "Lost". It's about people on and island. Weird stuff happens to them. Maybe you've heard about it. Last year, the rush to copy the breakout hit brought us "Threshold", "Invasion", "Surface", all of which I'm pretty sure are no longer with us. So why did "Lost" work and those shows didn't? They all had spooky stuff. Lost has spooky stuff. Bummer.

So you'd think the networks apparent failure to clone "Lost" would scare them off high-concept genre programming for at least another season. Well, think again. It seems the problem wasn't that the shows were too out there--it's that they weren't Highy-Concepty enough. What trumps "spooky mystery island" in one sentence? How about the END OF THE FUCKIN' WORLD? That's right, each television network is hoping you'll plunk your ass down for an hour this fall and watch their version of the Apocalypse.

Apocalyptic Scenario No 1: Nuclear War

"Jericho" - Network: CBS
Writer: Steven Chbosky (The Perks of Being A Wallflower)
Odds You'll Be Seeing It On The Air: 50/50

Our young protagonist returns to his incredibly isolated hometown, Jericho, tucked neatly away in Kansas, where he reconciles with his estranged brother, father/town mayor, and the now-engaged-to-someone-else girl he left behind. Life is good in this small, cozy slice-of-Americana.

And then, on the eve of the President's State of the Union address, the country gets blown up. Oops. Mushroom clouds over Boulder, Atlanta (the only two confirmed in the pilot, but things aren't looking good), but Jericho remains. It's citizens, however, are starting to go a little nuts. But, I mean, who wouldn't?

The entire pilot takes place on the first night, and it's jam-packed with end-of-the-world goodness. A bus crash. Missing children. A crazy old coot with a CB radio. A new resident with a secret. Escaped prisoners. Geiger counters. On-screen amateur tracheotomy. All topped off with some solid Lost-style characterization.
Sure it's a nuclear war, but not the messy kind. It might as well have been an alien invasion, or conveniently dispersed asteroids that wiped out America. No skin peeling off or hair falling out of flipper babies here. But who wants to see that anyway? The nukes aren't what's important. What's important is that the people of Jericho are alone, cut off from everything else, and are going to have to learn to survive together. I know, sounds familiar. But it works. My favorite drama pilot of the year.

Apocalyptic Scenario #2: Superhuman Evolution

"Heroes" - Network: NBC
Writer: Tim Kring (Crossing Jordan)
Odds You'll Be Seeing It In The Fall: 100%

There are no absolutes when it comes to pilot-to-series guarantee. Unless you're Aaron Sorkin. But "Heroes" is about as safe a bet as you can make. Why?
In Manhattan, a male nurse in his mid-30s dreams he can fly. In Texas, a perky teenage cheerleader throws herself off a cliff and bemusedly watches as her bones snap back together. In Utah, a death-row inmate wakes up each morning on the outside of his cell. In Japan, an office drone believes he can alter the space-time continuum.

That's just half the cast. I didn't include the psychic artist or the stripper with a killer reflection. Or the Indian professor, trying to piece it all together. Or the priest, who...well, he's bad news. Strange things are happening all over the world to seemingly random people. Some connections are made. Some don't connect at all. Yet.

"Heroes" is BIG. Globe-spanning. Every character's story is compelling enough to stand on its own. Put 'em together and you've got a two-hour pilot script feels like a feature. And after a summer comic-book film feast courtesy of X-Men 3 and Superman Returns, these non spandex-clad "Heroes" are going to be the delicious soft-serve ice cream bar with unlimited toppings. And hot fudge.

Oh, and by the end of the pilot, it's clear that the emergence of our "Heroes" might not be the best thing for the rest of us non-Tomorrow People.
Two more tidbits: Best line - Disbelieving Japanese co-worker: "We are not special! We are Japanese!"

And to those who shun any sort of superhero-related project that doesn't give props to its comic book inspiration, the script is chock full of gorgeous illustrations by famed artist Tim Sale, and one hopes they'll be incorporated into the show somehow.

Apocalyptic Scenario #3: American Civil War - Part Deux!
"A House Divided" - Network: ABC
Writer: Andrew David Chapman
Odds You'll Be Seeing it in the Fall: I'll put this one at 30%.

In the near-future, the unthinkable has happened. A Liberal President is back in power. How liberal? Well, he's raised taxes to the point where Middle America has had just about enough. A small group of farmers have decided "Hell No!" They're not paying anymore. One of these farmers, a good-natured retired Gulf War II vet, just trying to get by and raise his family, through a series of highly believable government mishaps, and the manipulations of a well-stocked Kansas militia, ends up becoming the head of this escalating conflict. As the pilot ends, Northern Kansas succeeds from the United States.

What's great about "House" is that my one-paragraph summary barely scratches the surface of what's going on in this pilot. Once I was done reading it, I realized I had no idea where I really stood in this hypothetical conflict. There is no right side and wrong side in this one. It's complicated. It's relevant. It's worth having on the air, just so the angry talking heads on cable news have something in Hollywood to bloviate about once Brokeback-mania dies down. It's incendiary stuff, and it's solid, powerful writing.

It's going to take some ABC execs with brass ones to risk throwing this one on the air. But the free media exposure it's going to get is going to make even Matt Drudge forget that Geena Davis was once the President.

Apocalyptic Scenario #4 - Cannibal Holocaust

"Untitled Zombie Project" - Network: FOX
Writer: Kevin Williamson (Dawson's Creek, Scream)
Odds You'll Be Seeing It In Fall: 0%

A hazy Los Angeles morning. A small earthquake rattles you from your bed. You walk out to your car and find that a thick yellow dust of unknown origin has settled all over the city. A few hours later, people start acting strangely. Even for LA. Soon, you find yourself in a city gone insane, trying to escape your zombie-infested office building or college campus or, yes, finally, a preschool.
From what I've heard this project is as dead as the zombies brain-munching their way through Los Angeles in Kevin Williamson's awesome script. I guess network TV isn't ready for Heather Graham or disease-ridden flesh-eating pre-schoolers. I know I am though, and so are the millions of other people who are probably salivating to learn that America came close this year to getting it's first ongoing zombie serial.

I know Kevin Williamson doesn't probably seem like the first guy you'd go to for zombie horror, but damned if he's not the man for the job. What's UZP like? Remember the first fifteen minutes of 2004's "Dawn of the Dead" remake? Stretch that into an hour, ratchet up the intensity, and you've got UZP in a nutshell. So yeah, the answer to the million dollar question - Fast Zombies.
Structured in the multi-character format that's become so popular, Williamson delivers us some solid character work in the first fifteen minutes, and then let's us watch them run for their lives from the walking (running) dead.

In the end, our survivors, made up of a healthy stable of zombie-movie players (A cop, a criminal, two teenagers, a cute kid, a homeless guy, a Korean Woman with an arsenal, and our strong, reserved, tortured protagonist. And the Professor and Mary-Ann) all take refuge in the USC Coliseum, and we're left waiting to see what happens next. And there's a conspiracy afoot as to what caused this outbreak, involving a group of safely bunkered scientists. It's not terribly original, but it's a helluva ride.

And I doubt it'll ever get made. Pity too. If Fox doesn't think there's an audience for this, they're out of their Prison-Breakin' minds.

Well, that's it for Network Apocalypse Dramas '06. There's still People On The Run From Government Conspiracy Dramas, Cops With Quirky Abilities Dramas, and Sexy Secrets in the Suburbs Dramas. Again, at least one for each network. I guess this says something about the networks views on the zeitgeist of America. Of course, they also think we want a new Paul Reiser sitcom (wacky used car salesmen!).
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2006, 10:37:55 AM
Except for Heroes, they all sound great!

Heroes, it just makes me think of Monty Python for some reason.  Bicycle Repairman, where are you?

But Civil War?  Rock out.  That's not a ripoff.  Well, it is, except it's a great twist.  Act one:  The ripoff.  Act two: WARCHILD!

Jericho is much anticipated.  If you would like to see Jericho, almost scene for scene, I suggest you put Testament on your queue.  Except Testament is pitiful, 80's bullshit...and they all die.  The way Jericho has borrowed those characters and even the situations listed there is shameless and painful.

Guess the rights to Alas, Babylon were too expensive.

Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on February 14, 2006, 01:29:31 PM
Really? If Heroes is handled properly, it could kick ass. Kind of like J. Michael Straczsynskis's Rising Stars series.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Nubbins on February 14, 2006, 03:09:10 PM
Really? If Heroes is handled properly, it could kick ass. Kind of like J. Michael Straczsynskis's Rising Stars series.

Or... the Greatest American Hero!

God, I loved that show when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2006, 03:14:00 PM


Or... the Greatest American Hero!

God, I loved that show when I was a kid.

Oh, man, I'm plowing through the second season right now on Netflix.  Bought the first season set.

The second season is hilarious.  I forgot how well put together the show was... Just that charming, cute writing...but all of Robert Culp's gags still get me laughing out loud.  And the way they treat his character -- he gets hurt in every episode, from a splinter to a bullet.  There are a bunch of running jokes like that I forgot about about.

And the great Faye Grant got a big role in the second season.  I didn't remember the kids at all... Faye went on to lead in V.  She's just so cute.

But fuck that, she's eclipsed by Selleca.  My god was she a babe.  But the second season dropped her banter with Culp, which is why I think it's improved.  Culp's more of the comic Greek chorus/goober everyman when he doesn't have anyone to bounce off of.  And that's where he masterful.

Yeah, amazing nostalgia trip.  Queue them up, man.  It really is surprising how well they hold water, for the most part.

Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 14, 2006, 03:58:20 PM
"Heroes" ultimately morphs into Justice League (or X-Men) by season three and becomes stupid. Plus, I'd argue that live action superheroes on TV don't have a very good track record. I submit these exhibits: Spider-Man (1979), The Flash, Witchblade, GAH. Even the Incredible Hulk only lasted what? Three or four seasons?
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2006, 04:07:39 PM
Boy, four years is pretty good!  You think Heroes will even see a third season?  It's dead in one.  So are all of those, really.  More than a year of trapped in zombietown, USA?  Atomtown?  Bloody Kansas? 

BSG can't even steer through 22 episodes and it's one of the greatest dramas on TV, guided by fierce devotion, blind luck and mountains of cocaine.  Some throwaway network cash-in doesn't even have good graces to carry it through its birthing.  All three of those are feeding frenzy ideas. 
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 14, 2006, 04:20:47 PM
"A House Divided" does seem like the best idea in terms of longevity. Hell, just use the U.S. Civil War as a template. Make one year = one season and you're good for at least six years, and that's just the fighting. You could have the first three seasons just be build up.

Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2006, 04:43:53 PM
Seeing Faye in Greatest American and reading news about the new V has me hungry for a properly done V: The Series.  Ken Johnson's original idea was just beautiful.  Nazi-like occupation, tiny resistance movement constantly struggling against them, feeble hope that a greater power would wade in and fight. 

But, yes, House has the most promise.  You really could spend a few seasons just building up.  But the description sounds like they're going to rush to the action for the sake of the pilot...which is a shame.  That means the series will just be slogging it out through the "war."
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on February 14, 2006, 07:45:28 PM
BSG can't even steer through 22 episodes and it's one of the greatest dramas on TV, guided by fierce devotion, blind luck and mountains of cocaine.  Some throwaway network cash-in doesn't even have good graces to carry it through its birthing.  All three of those are feeding frenzy ideas. 

Dude, stop knocking on BSG. They tripped up. For the first time. In terms of batting average, this is like, what, .965? Not counting the miniseries, even. Fine, let's lump "Scars" and "Black Market" together... .931. Most TV shows would kill to have that hit/miss ratio. Get your Cylon shit together and have some faith.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2006, 08:05:38 PM
Oh, not really knocking on it.  I have an overall problem with the 20+ episode seasons.  I think it ruins shows.  BSG is the best show in history. I believe that.  But with the demand for long seasons (Lost has just announced that it'll be running an "extra long" season, due to popular demand, for example) we're killing these shows.  Black Market and Scar, for "bad episodes," are still better than 99% of the shit out there...but those episodes are slight cracks in that otherwise perfect track record.  I don't think there would be any cracks with a 10-15 episode run.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 18, 2006, 12:30:56 PM
More on that show, "Heroes." The pilot is filmed and there's pictures. I might give the initial episode a chance . . . just to see.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4249
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on May 18, 2006, 01:33:50 PM
Me too. I really want it to work.

I also really wanted The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen to work too.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Goblin_Queen on May 18, 2006, 05:24:32 PM
Man, League pissed me off!  Dorian was supposed to be blond.  He's made of ivory and gold goddamnit.  GOLD.  Not um...hehe...ebony!
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Cassander on May 18, 2006, 07:08:06 PM
what pissed me off is that Dorian's not IN THE FUCKING COMIC
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on May 18, 2006, 08:18:46 PM
Cass is seconded. Dorian's in the movie because he's gimmicky and superhero-like.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2006, 04:19:41 PM
Also, FYI, the Aquaman TV series got canned, without the pilot even being shown to the public.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2006, 05:16:33 PM
That's good!

Look, I'm telling you all to go petition for Global Frequency to get a second chance.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 28, 2006, 10:25:13 PM
Also, FYI, the Aquaman TV series got canned, without the pilot even being shown to the public.

It's in the hands of the public now -- hint hint.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 28, 2006, 10:26:33 PM

Jericho is much anticipated.  If you would like to see Jericho, almost scene for scene, I suggest you put Testament on your queue.  Except Testament is pitiful, 80's bullshit...and they all die.  The way Jericho has borrowed those characters and even the situations listed there is shameless and painful.


Did I miss a thread somewhere...?  What did you all think of the pilot?

I'm going to reverse my opinion quoted above.  We have a nice crew of people who have to learn to get along, it's not a story about radiation death (instead we get the lovely hint of chaos outside that may come to infect Jericho social meltdown style) and I'm pleased to know that there were so many fucking commercials the hour long pilot breaks down to 36 minutes. 

Let me say that again -- an hour long show is actually 36 minutes now because of the commercials.  That's a new record.  We were holding steady at 42 for awhile.  So, a year from now, will an hour long show actually be 10 minutes long? 

(It's also insane, flag-waving propaganda.  But the girl's are cute and the mayor is played by the guy who plays the evil, demented Hearst in Deadwood, so it's hard to see him as the patriot good guy he's supposed to be.)
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2006, 11:22:31 PM
That's fucking ridiculous. No wonder TiVo has taken over.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Tatertots on July 28, 2006, 11:47:37 PM
You mean P2P?

I'm going to go down to Blockbuster and pay $5 for my fix of Scrubs instead of waiting two days for NetFlix to deliver my fix.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 29, 2006, 01:21:26 AM
let's hope Triathlons don't test for Zach Braff addictions!
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Tatertots on July 29, 2006, 01:39:00 AM
You misspelled "Sarah Chalke".

Cunt-face.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 29, 2006, 02:49:23 AM
oh, you!
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 30, 2006, 10:56:44 PM
Where are you seeing these fucking pilots?

The ads for Jericho look great. Mrs. RC have put it on our short list of new shows to check out.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 30, 2006, 11:00:32 PM
After seeing the Aquaman pilot, I see how it could be good. And it could be good if Miles Millar and Alfred Gough never touch the DC universe ever fucking again.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 12:22:59 AM
Where are you seeing these fucking pilots?

The ads for Jericho look great. Mrs. RC have put it on our short list of new shows to check out.

Except for Aquaman, they were all aired, man. 

But where am I seeing them?  I'm downloading them.  Here's Jericho:
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/815299/Jericho_1x01_XviD_asd_EnglishV_NapisyPL

Right now I'm beside myself to learn that the first three episodes of the new Stargate Atlantis season are on the net.  Jesus.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 12:35:22 AM


* “HEROES” (ABC): People all over the world begin to discover that they have super-powers.


Got my hands on the pilot episode... But tied up by the fact that the Stargate twins have been airing their new seasons for a month without my knowledge.  So I'll get this pilot in me ASAP and report back.  So far, I'm high-spirited after Jericho.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 12:52:44 AM
Heroes pilot is out? HOLY SHIT I gotta get my hands on that. That's the only series I've been interested in.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 12:56:13 AM
I'm eight minutes away... All the Stargates are lagging.  So I'll watch it shortly.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 01:01:17 AM
also, Nach, I'm pretty sure none of these air until September.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 01:15:25 AM
also, WARREN ELLIS SUCKS BALLS.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 01:22:51 AM
also, Nach, I'm pretty sure none of these air until September.

Really?  The entire fall lineup has been leaked, then.  Amazing. 

Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Nubbins on July 31, 2006, 01:23:39 AM
I hate to derail this thread, but I don't think this post merits a thread of its own.

Am I crazy because I think Gray's Anatomy is a total turd of a show?  Everyone I live with is friggin crazy about this show and I just don't get it.  I mean, like no one's allowed to talk while it's on and 15 people come over to the house and turn off all the lights and hunker down to watch this thing on a weekly basis during the season.  I really don't think I can sit through another episode again, so I am dreading Sunday nights come September.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 01:25:48 AM
It's crap, yes.  And, by the way, I'm seeing new episodes of that posted as well... What's going on?  Pilots leaked and all the new seasons are a few episodes in... Have the networks embraced the download culture, or has every intern in every company decided to leak everything?
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Nubbins on July 31, 2006, 01:37:36 AM
It's crap, yes.  And, by the way, I'm seeing new episodes of that posted as well... What's going on?  Pilots leaked and all the new seasons are a few episodes in... Have the networks embraced the download culture, or has every intern in every company decided to leak everything?

Seriously, how does that happen?  You'd think they would figure out a way to keep that shit under wraps.  I can't imagine it would be that difficult.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 01:44:12 AM
There's stuff leaked I haven't even heard of...

Traveler:

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Good friends Jay, Tyler, and Will have done just about everything together for the past two years, but being together ends today. Jay and Tyler become prime suspects in a terrorist bombing at a famous New York City museum after rollerblading through it as a prank. They hope that Will will clear up the situation, but find that he's been missing since the explosion.

Looks great, getting great reviews... Grabbing it, too.  And The Nine, and Friday Night Lights...

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Seriously, how does that happen?  You'd think they would figure out a way to keep that shit under wraps.  I can't imagine it would be that difficult.

Nah, this is something else, Nubbs.  Almost everything has been leaked except for the big boys (House, etc). 

For the pilots, it's obvious.  This has to be intentional.  I'm seeing almost every pilot for the new shows now that I'm looking... That can't be.  You can't leak the entire lineup from all the networks and the cable networks.  They're doing that on purpose to see what the audience likes or dislikes.

As for the episodes for the upcoming seasons, I don't know... The Stargates are probably out of Canada, which is normal.  Sci-Fi always embargoes shows while they air everywhere else.  But shit like Grey's Anatomy... Don't know.  That's weird.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 02:31:42 AM
seriously, one of the smartest things they could do is measure bittorrent use to see what's popular and what isn't.

Also, Nubbs, do you live in a house full of women? Because I've heard women go crazy over that show, but never men.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Nubbins on July 31, 2006, 02:43:43 AM
No, but there is a contingent of women who descend on our house to watch the show occassionally.  They're all way into it.  I remember the big huge episode at the end of this year was, get this... a guy gets a mortar from a rocket launcher stuck in his chest.  So, they've all got to try to save his life, but there's a chance that he's going to explode so all the doctors are surrounded by bomb squad cops and everyone's in bomb squad gear... well, except for helmets.  NO FUCKING HELMETS!!!   They don't even put on those stupid woodshop goggles or anything at all... they, in fact, seemed to make it a point to have their faces exposed the entire time.  I mean, seriously... you expect me to believe that people are going to cover their entire bodies in armor except for their heads and faces?  Also I find it hard to stomach that all the doctors and nurses and patients are involved in elaborate love triangles and all go fuck each other in broom closets almost constantly.  It's just one of the dumbest shows I've ever seen.

I also hate it that they've made me watch/care about/really like America's Got Talent.  There's just something about David Hasselhoff criticizing a juggler for his mediocrity that makes me laugh... hard.  It's so much better than American Idol because it's not just dumb singing... there's fire and banjos and contortionists and strippers... you just never know what's about to come on stage.  I love that show. :(
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 03:17:53 AM
I just started watching Heroes, and they're totally subbing in the Batman Begins soundtrack. WTF?
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 08:09:18 AM
It's obviously a leak.  Just above a working print.  The music and all that will be different when it actually comes out.  Seen this before.

And my vote, I'm sorry to say, is one big snore.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 31, 2006, 10:09:33 AM
Am I crazy because I think Gray's Anatomy is a total turd of a show?  Everyone I live with is friggin crazy about this show and I just don't get it.  I mean, like no one's allowed to talk while it's on and 15 people come over to the house and turn off all the lights and hunker down to watch this thing on a weekly basis during the season.  I really don't think I can sit through another episode again, so I am dreading Sunday nights come September.

It's Thursday nights this season.

And Nubbins, if you can get in touch with your inner chick, you'll find Grey's Anatomy to be (for the most part) one of the best written shows on TV. I'll admit that it skates the line of believability every once in a while, and when an episode tanks, it REALLY tanks. However, the characters are almost unbearably human. Everybody has their faults, and few of the charcaters are downright nasty, unlikeable people.

I avoided it for half of the first season then tuned in to see what my wife was squawking about and got hooked.

I will say that I fear it may have jumped the shark after last season's finale. You can only play out love affairs for so long before it becomes, "Get together or go away."

Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 10:30:01 AM
Yeah, Nubbs, RC's right, Grey's Anatomy jumped the shark before the first script was finished.  But if you can get your hands on the original pitch -- Sandra Oh:  Nude Anatomy -- then you'll love it!
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 02:19:08 PM
Matt Watches Heroes:

Nice way to rip off the music from Batman Begins... oh wait, you just copied it.

So the flying man is a doctor? That's a nice play. Flying ambulance?

Also, thank you, India, for providing a vaguely efficient way to give exposition to the whole story.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 02:25:10 PM
They put Ali Larter as a camwhore. Nice to know that they know their demographic.

So, there's a boyhood genius, a flying doctor (who is related to a politician), a regenerating zombie cheerleader...

oh, and a time-bending computer programmer.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2006, 02:36:46 PM
They just used a Bright Eyes song as a temp track. Fuuuuck this show. :-(
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 31, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
I'm hopping on this bandwagon tonight, even though I wanted to resist it at first.  So, tonight I'm lining up:

Heroes
Traveler
Jericho
and, though it isn't new, but I want to find out if it sucks, Blade: The Series.

I'm skipping The Nine, Kidnapped, that Fox one about a stand-off with Office Space guy, and Shark.  They just sound horrible.  Well, Shark doesn't sound that bad, but someone described it on another forum as "The legal version of House" and I fucking hate House.  The Nine has scott wolf in it.  need I say more?  Oh, and Friday Night Lights.  I already saw the movie.  Why watch it again when it lasts 14 hours and has shittier actors?

Already watched Heroes...for some reason I thought this was a Marvel-backed series.  Now I see that they've just stolen the popular powers from the popular comic heroes.  Except for Ali Larter...what is she supposed to be?  Some kind of crazy shadow-phase Medea?  I'll probably catch a few more eps, but it seemed to me like they were trying too hard to feel like Lost and trying too hard (and failing) at covering that fact up.  Plus...no token black guy?  And...this bad guy looks more like a douchebag than some kind of mastermind? 

anyway.  dinnertime and something else. 

but while we're on the subject...has this "let's try to make a series a lot like that popular series from last year" ever worked?  arent' all the greatest shows new and free-thinking, or, at least, only 10% derivative instead of about 50-80%? 

Granted you can make that "It's [popular show] except they're [in some unrelated environment]!" about almost everything, and some shows (usually cop shows) build on the successful ones of before and just go a little grittier, but honestly, all these 24 and Prisonbreak ripoffs make me want to induce vomiting so I can eat the vomit and thus get the bad taste out of my mouth.  And speaking of cop shows...where's my new goddamn cop show?  NYPD Blue got canceled a year or two ago and the Shield ends in January after, like, a 6 episode mini-season.  I don't want CSI or Law and order or some bullshit.  I want NYPD Blue 5000...blood and guts and hard-nosed detectives and infighting in the department house.  Is that so much to ask? 

Anyway, if anyone wants to try to come up with a TV series (or comic book series; both are pretty similar I would imagine) with me, I'll start up a brainstorm thread. 
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on July 31, 2006, 08:59:46 PM
So far, then:

Shark -- cool, liked it, James Woods is god

Jericho -- Fun, not offensive, has strong potential, well done

Heroes -- Crap

Traveler -- Fun, enjoyed it
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 31, 2006, 10:12:04 PM
Jericho:

Oh my god!  Fuck strong potential, this show has "it."

I was actually moved by some of the scenes, like bottom of the stomach twinging type of emotion.  Nothing over the top, moderation throughout, but still a bunch of creepy and honestly nice moments.  Also it only had one of those awful unrealistic "we need to clue the audience in on something...better make it heavy handed just to be sure" moments ("You guys were both born on 3rd base! Quit acting like you hit a triple!").  And there were a ton of "that guys" in it.  I love series based around "that guys."  I'll look them all up later, but there were at least 7 recognizable yet can't come up with their names actors. 

I thought it was going to be corny, but man, I actually can't wait to see more.  Hopefully it won't get overrun by all the other shit CBS throws at us. 
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on August 01, 2006, 08:13:18 PM
The Singles Table:  Hilarious.  "Um...literally, you do have to go to your own funeral."

John Cho's the man!  (He's Harold from Harold & Kumar.)
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 01, 2006, 08:21:01 PM
Pirates of the internet . . . See if you can dig up a show called, "I Want to Rob Mick Jagger." A buddy of mine who saw a bunch of pilots (He know folks in the biz.) said it's quite possibly the funniest show he's ever seen, which means it'll get canceled after two episodes.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 29, 2006, 09:32:19 AM
Premieres by alphabet:
 
According To Jim (ABC) Dec. 6
All Of Us (CW) Oct. 1
Amazing Race (CBS) Sept. 17
America’s Funniest Home Videos (ABC) Oct. 1
America’s Most Wanted (Fox) Sept. 9
America’s Next Top Model (CW) Sept. 20
American Dad (Fox) Sept. 10
American Idol (Fox) Jan. 16
Art of Betrayal (MyNet) Dec. 4
Bachelor (ABC) Oct. 2
Battlestar Galactica (SciFi) Oct. 6
Biggest Loser (NBC) Sept. 20
Bones (Fox) Aug. 30
Boston Legal (ABC) Sept. 19
Breaking Bonaduce (VH1) Oct. 22
Bridezillas (WE) Oct. 8
Brothers & Sisters (ABC) Sept. 24
Campus Ladies (Oxy) Oct. 1
Celebrity Duets (Fox) Aug. 29
Class (CBS) Sept. 18
Close to Home (CBS) Sept. 22
Cold Case (CBS) Sept. 24
Cops (Fox) Sept. 9
Criminal Minds (CBS) Sept. 20
Crossing Jordan (NBC) Oct. 20
CSI (CBS) Sept. 21
CSI: Miami (CBS) Sept. 18
CSI: New York (CBS) Sept. 20
Dancing With The Stars (ABC) Sept. 12
Dateline (NBC) Sept. 23
Day Break (ABC) Nov. 15
Deal or No Deal (NBC) Sept. 18
Def Comedy Jam (HBO) Sept. 10
Desire (MyNet) Sept. 4
Desperate Housewives (ABC) Sept. 24
Dexter (Sho) Oct. 1
Doctor Who (SciFi) Sept. 29
Drawn Together (CC) Oct. 5
ER (NBC) Sept. 21
Everybody Hates Chris (CW) Oct. 1
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (ABC) Sept. 24
Family Guy (Fox) Sept. 10
Fashion House (MyNet) Sept. 4
48 Hours Mystery (CBS) Sept. 23
Freak Show (CC) Oct. 4
Friday Night Lights (NBC) Oct. 3
Game (CW) Oct. 1
George Lopez (ABC) Dec. 6
Ghost Whisperer (CBS) Sept. 22
Gilmore Girls (CW) Sept. 26
Girlfriends (CW) Oct. 1
Grey’s Anatomy (ABC) Sept. 21
Happy Hour (Fox) Sept. 7
Help Me Help You (ABC) Sept. 26
Heroes (NBC) Sept. 25
Hogan Knows Best (VH1) Oct. 22
House (Fox) Sept. 4
House of Carters (E!) Oct. 2
How I Met Your Mother (CBS) Sept. 18
I Pity The Fool! (TVLand) Oct. 11
Ice T’s Rap School (VH1) Oct. 17
Jericho (CBS) Sept. 20
Justice (Fox) Aug. 30
Juvies (MTV) Sept. 4
Kidnapped (NBC) Sept. 20
King of the Hill (Fox) Dec. 3
Knights of Prosperity (ABC) Oct. 17
Las Vegas (NBC) Oct. 20
Law & Order (NBC) Sept. 22
Law & Order: Criminal Intent (NBC) Sept. 19
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (NBC) Sept. 19
Lost (ABC) Oct. 4
Men in Trees (ABC) Sept. 12
MI:5 (A&E) Sept. 15
Million Dollar Listing (Bravo) Aug. 29
My Name is Earl (NBC) Sept. 21
Nanny 911 (Fox) Sept. 8
NCIS (CBS) Sept. 19
New Adventures of Old Christine (CBS) Sept. 18
Nine (ABC) Oct. 4
Nip/Tuck (FX) Sept. 4
Numb3rs (CBS) Sept. 22
The OC (Fox) Nov. 2
Office (NBC) Sept. 21
One Tree Hill (CW) Sept. 27
Prison Break (Fox) Aug. 21
Real Time With Bill Maher (HBO) Aug. 25
Rome (HBO) Jan. 7
Runaway (CW) Sept. 25
7th Heaven (CW) Sept. 25
Shark (CBS) Sept. 21
The Shield (FX) Jan. 9
Simpsons (Fox) Sept. 10
Six Degrees (ABC) Sept. 21
60 Minutes (CBS) Sept. 24
Smallville (CW) Sept. 28
Smith (CBS) Sept. 19
South Park (CC) Oct. 4
Standoff (Fox) Sept. 4
Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip (NBC) Sept. 18
Supernanny (ABC) Dec. 4
Supernatural (CW) Sept. 28
Survivor (CBS) Sept. 14
Talk Show With Spike Feresten (Fox) Sept. 17
30 Rock (NBC) Oct. 11
‘Til Death (Fox) Sept. 7
TNA Impact! (Spike) Sept. 28
Trading Spouses (Fox) Oct. 6
24 (Fox) Jan. 7
20 Good Years (NBC) Oct. 4
20/20 (ABC) Sept. 8
Two and a Half Men (CBS) Sept. 18
Two-A-Days (MTV) Aug. 23
Ugly Betty (ABC) Sept. 28
The Underground (Sho) Sept. 14
Unit (CBS) Sept. 19
Vanished (Fox) Aug. 21
Veronica Mars (CW) Oct. 3
War at Home (Fox) Sept. 10
Watch Over Me (MyNet) Dec. 4
What About Brian (ABC) Oct. 9
Wife Swap (ABC) Sept. 18
Wire (HBO) Sept. 10
Without A Trace Sept. 24
WWE Smackdown (CW) Sept. 22

Premieres by date:
 
Prison Break (Fox) Aug. 21
Vanished (Fox) Aug. 21
Two-A-Days (MTV) Aug. 23
Real Time With Bill Maher (HBO) Aug. 25
Celebrity Duets (Fox) Aug. 29
Million Dollar Listing (Bravo) Aug. 29
Bones (Fox) Aug. 30
Justice (Fox) Aug. 30
Desire (MyNet) Sept. 4
Fashion House (MyNet) Sept. 4
House (Fox) Sept. 4
Juvies (MTV) Sept. 4
Nip/Tuck (FX) Sept. 4
Standoff (Fox) Sept. 4
‘Til Death (Fox) Sept. 7
Happy Hour (Fox) Sept. 7
Nanny 911 (Fox) Sept. 8
20/20 (ABC) Sept. 8
Cops (Fox) Sept. 9
America’s Most Wanted (Fox) Sept. 9
American Dad (Fox) Sept. 10
Def Comedy Jam (HBO) Sept. 10
Family Guy (Fox) Sept. 10
Simpsons (Fox) Sept. 10
War at Home (Fox) Sept. 10
Wire (HBO) Sept. 10
Dancing With The Stars (ABC) Sept. 12
Men in Trees (ABC) Sept. 12
Survivor (CBS) Sept. 14
The Underground (Sho) Sept. 14
MI:5 (A&E) Sept. 15
Amazing Race (CBS) Sept. 17
Talk Show With Spike Feresten (Fox) Sept. 17
Class (CBS) Sept. 18
CSI: Miami (CBS) Sept. 18
Deal or No Deal (NBC) Sept. 18
How I Met Your Mother (CBS) Sept. 18
New Adventures of Old Christine (CBS) Sept. 18
Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip (NBC) Sept. 18
Two and a Half Men (CBS) Sept. 18
Wife Swap (ABC) Sept. 18
Boston Legal (ABC) Sept. 19
Law & Order: Criminal Intent (NBC) Sept. 19
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (NBC) Sept. 19
NCIS (CBS) Sept. 19
Smith (CBS) Sept. 19
Unit (CBS) Sept. 19
America’s Next Top Model (CW) Sept. 20
Biggest Loser (NBC) Sept. 20
Criminal Minds (CBS) Sept. 20
CSI: New York (CBS) Sept. 20
Jericho (CBS) Sept. 20
Kidnapped (NBC) Sept. 20
CSI (CBS) Sept. 21
ER (NBC) Sept. 21
Grey’s Anatomy (ABC) Sept. 21
My Name is Earl (NBC) Sept. 21
Office (NBC) Sept. 21
Shark (CBS) Sept. 21
Six Degrees (ABC) Sept. 21
Close to Home (CBS) Sept. 22
Ghost Whisperer (CBS) Sept. 22
Law & Order (NBC) Sept. 22
Numb3rs (CBS) Sept. 22
WWE Smackdown (CW) Sept. 22
Dateline (NBC) Sept. 23
48 Hours Mystery (CBS) Sept. 23
Brothers & Sisters (ABC) Sept. 24
Cold Case (CBS) Sept. 24
Desperate Housewives (ABC) Sept. 24
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (ABC) Sept. 24
60 Minutes (CBS) Sept. 24
Without A Trace Sept. 24
Heroes (NBC) Sept. 25
Runaway (CW) Sept. 25
7th Heaven (CW) Sept. 25
Gilmore Girls (CW) Sept. 26
Help Me Help You (ABC) Sept. 26
One Tree Hill (CW) Sept. 27
Smallville (CW) Sept. 28
Supernatural (CW) Sept. 28
TNA Impact! (Spike) Sept. 28
Ugly Betty (ABC) Sept. 28
Doctor Who (SciFi) Sept. 29
All Of Us (CW) Oct. 1
America’s Funniest Home Videos (ABC) Oct. 1
Campus Ladies (Oxy) Oct. 1
Dexter (Sho) Oct. 1
Everybody Hates Chris (CW) Oct. 1
Game (CW) Oct. 1
Girlfriends (CW) Oct. 1
Bachelor (ABC) Oct. 2
House of Carters (E!) Oct. 2
Friday Night Lights (NBC) Oct. 3
Veronica Mars (CW) Oct. 3
Freak Show (CC) Oct. 4
Lost (ABC) Oct. 4
Nine (ABC) Oct. 4
South Park (CC) Oct. 4
20 Good Years (NBC) Oct. 4
Drawn Together (CC) Oct. 5
Battlestar Galactica (SciFi) Oct. 6
Trading Spouses (Fox) Oct. 6
Bridezillas (WE) Oct. 8
What About Brian (ABC) Oct. 9
I Pity The Fool! (TVLand) Oct. 11
30 Rock (NBC) Oct. 11
Ice T’s Rap School (VH1) Oct. 17
Knights of Prosperity (ABC) Oct. 17
Crossing Jordan (NBC) Oct. 20
Las Vegas (NBC) Oct. 20
Breaking Bonaduce (VH1) Oct. 22
Hogan Knows Best (VH1) Oct. 22
The OC (Fox) Nov. 2
Day Break (ABC) Nov. 15
King of the Hill (Fox) Dec. 3
Art of Betrayal (MyNet) Dec. 4
Supernanny (ABC) Dec. 4
Watch Over Me (MyNet) Dec. 4
According To Jim (ABC) Dec. 6
George Lopez (ABC) Dec. 6
Rome (HBO) Jan. 7
24 (Fox) Jan. 7
The Shield (FX) Jan. 9
American Idol (Fox) Jan. 16
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on September 04, 2006, 10:55:52 AM
Hey!  Jericho's just around the corner.  Nice.
Title: Re: Fall TV Pilots: The '06 Edition
Post by: nacho on September 18, 2006, 04:10:38 PM
Studio 60 is tonight.  An okay pilot has me interested enough to catch it.

Jericho is on the 20th.

And, off topic, Extras series 2 began a few days ago.  How'd I miss that?