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Posted by: nacho
« on: September 30, 2008, 11:54:43 AM »

Kyle sucked.

But here comes Laura... She's gonna hit Sunday.  It's bad news...for...uh...the UK, actually.  Go figure.  She's due to make landfall in the north of Scotland late Saturday night.  FEMA is on standby!
Posted by: Reginald McGraw
« on: September 18, 2008, 11:23:27 AM »

Posted by: nacho
« on: September 17, 2008, 05:35:59 PM »

I love The Big Picture...one of my favorite blogs.
Posted by: Nubbins
« on: September 17, 2008, 05:21:49 PM »

Posted by: nacho
« on: September 12, 2008, 04:33:29 PM »

That's what I would do if I were weathering a hurricane.  Go out and fuck with all the reporters.
Posted by: Nubbins
« on: September 12, 2008, 04:28:32 PM »

I have no idea... I am assuming that the photo is an undoctored screencap.
Posted by: saintangelsin
« on: September 12, 2008, 04:24:09 PM »

Broadcast journalism is a terrifying wasteland of death and pain and torture and emptiness.

I agree with you about that, but I doubt working for NPR or PBS would be that bad. Same about the Daily show. (Yes I do get some of my news from watching Stewart and Colbert...)

Oh and Nubbins, is that a dude in a bear suite standing behind that newscaster? I mean this photo wasn't photoshopped for comedy sake right?
Posted by: Nubbins
« on: September 12, 2008, 04:09:50 PM »

yyyyep.
Posted by: nacho
« on: September 12, 2008, 03:38:14 PM »


(Did you work for the AP or something?)

Yep!
Posted by: Nubbins
« on: September 12, 2008, 03:31:28 PM »

beach full of retards.
Posted by: Tatertots
« on: September 12, 2008, 03:25:24 PM »

Broadcast journalism is a terrifying wasteland of death and pain and torture and emptiness.
Posted by: saintangelsin
« on: September 12, 2008, 02:34:38 PM »

Oh I'm not saying that print journalists are great. Believe me, I know the need for a red pen. I even struggle at times with editing my own  stuff. Once you read something over and over, little stupid mistakes become tricky to catch. What I was trying to say is that you think print is bad, broadcast are even worse and here's why (referring to my previous posting). At least print journalists know that good writing is something to aspire towards. With broadcast journalism students, it seems like they could barely give a shit about even aspiring towards mediocre writing.

As for the scroll stuff, I didn't realize it was computers snatching things from wires. (Did you work for the AP or something?) With wires, I think the downside to having "instant" information or news is that it's all about speed. A story written right off the bat is going to be awful looking or  have typos. I think that's why I like the idea of newspaper or magazine journalism a little better because at least you have more than 5 minutes to edit a story. But the upside of instant stuff is that online it can be corrected throughout the day and changed in real time. Where as in print, once you print a fuck up, well you have to issue a correction statement and sometimes an apology.

Crazy to think I want to do this stuff for a living.
Posted by: nacho
« on: September 12, 2008, 02:25:31 PM »

One thing I've always heard broadcast  journalism students at my school complain about is writing. I find it pretty sad that they don't realize that you need good writing skills to do television news. Sure for print journalists, writing skills is all we have. Without them, you're totally screwed. But whoever thought being on  major news networks meant no writing skills are needed should be punched in the guts or something.

I would argue that most of print journalism sucks, as well.  I need a red pen to read the Washington Post, and few other newspapers are better.

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I've watched CNN at times and have seen so many typos and spelling errors scroll across the bottom of the screen. MSNBC has had quite a few recently too. While I don't want Fox, I should make myself watch them for a few hours to see if they have better grammar and spelling skills. I highly doubt it, but it would be funny to find out.

Lots of the scroll stuff is done with computers snatching feeds from the wires.  It was part of my job, once upon a time, to dump all that shit into the hopper for the super computers to chew up.


Posted by: Cassander
« on: September 12, 2008, 02:20:45 PM »

they're going overboard here now.  schools are closing early.  but the tropical winds started late last night...why let them go to school in the first place if you were thinking about shutting down? 
Posted by: saintangelsin
« on: September 12, 2008, 02:19:39 PM »

One thing I've always heard broadcast  journalism students at my school complain about is writing. I find it pretty sad that they don't realize that you need good writing skills to do television news. Sure for print journalists, writing skills is all we have. Without them, you're totally screwed. But whoever thought being on  major news networks meant no writing skills are needed should be punched in the guts or something.

I've watched CNN at times and have seen so many typos and spelling errors scroll across the bottom of the screen. MSNBC has had quite a few recently too. While I don't want Fox, I should make myself watch them for a few hours to see if they have better grammar and spelling skills. I highly doubt it, but it would be funny to find out.

As for the tasteless and pun driven headline that CNN posted, it really doesn't surprise me. I'll be honest, headline writing is difficult and there is an art to it. But knowing CNN, they either had some intern attempt their skills at headlining or someone with a bad sense of humor wrote the headline. (Most times news writers don't do their own headlines, even if they created one.  Editors will change them or have a headline writer do it.)

On the same topic of gripping about this awful headline, there's such a competition these days to be clever with the news that good reporting and writing gets ignored often. In reality, the reason anything that you've read or seen might come across as really good and clever is because it was unintentional. It's something that will just naturally come through the article if the story's subject permits it.


ps- I think I'm going to try to email a copy of that graphic/headline to Howard Kurtz at the Washington Post. He's got to say something about this in his media column.