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Title: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 03, 2008, 09:49:03 PM
Hall of fame game is tonight officially kicking off pre-season!

Jim Zorn makes his debut as the Redskins new coach. They don't look to shabby on offense though it may be too early to tell

And what the hell is up with Brett Favre?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on August 03, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
Hawkeyes are gonna suck this year, but hey, maybe we'll have fewer arrest!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on August 03, 2008, 10:23:44 PM
Arrests. Damn, this lack of editing is going to be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on August 04, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
An of y'all think that TT can be the first "threepeat" Heisman winner?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on August 04, 2008, 07:26:12 AM
Any I mean......
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on August 04, 2008, 10:06:21 AM
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And what the hell is up with Brett Favre?
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The biggest thing with Favre is what isn't really reported on as much.  At the end of last few seasons the Packers have been pushing him out the door, and when they lost to NY last year Favre probably just said "Fuck it" and just retired with the owners pushing him out anyway.

But now that he feels that itch again to play I'm sure he feels slighted and is gonna make the Packers either trade him or release him.  I am sure they are not gonna make him be a back up.  They can't afford it.  He is scheduled to maked $12 million this year.  $13 million next and $14 million in the final year of his contract.  That's $39 million to hold a clip board.  Ain't gonna happen.  They will probably trade him to the Vikings. 

I used to be on the side of the Packers about this, but then I read about them "forcing" him to retire.  Now I hope he does hold a clip board for 3 yrs and screws their salary cap up.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 07, 2008, 09:08:57 AM
End of an era!

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Favre saga over as QB gets fresh start with Jets

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP)—Brett Favre’s journey from retirement and back has finally ended—in New York.

The Green Bay Packers reached an agreement Wednesday night to trade their three-time MVP and Super Bowl-winning quarterback to the New York Jets, ending an emotionally grinding month of indecision over Favre’s future.

The move ends a remarkably ugly split between Green Bay and one of its most beloved players, allows the Packers to move forward with new starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers and gives Favre a fresh start—although not exactly the one he wanted, as Favre’s first choice was widely believed to be the Minnesota Vikings.

Terms of the trade weren’t immediately available.

“It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible,” Green Bay officials said in a statement.


Jets chairman and CEO Woody Johnson issued a statement early Thursday.

“I am looking forward to seeing Brett Favre in a New York Jets uniform,” Johnson said. “He represents a significant addition to this franchise, and reflects our commitment to putting the best possible team on the field.”

Green Bay had been talking with the Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers since deciding earlier this week that they could no longer coexist with Favre.

The Packers decided to move forward with Rodgers as their starer after Favre announced his retirement in March. Given their commitment to Rodgers, team officials weren’t particularly receptive when Favre decided just over a month ago that he might want to play after all—the latest development in several years’ worth of flip-flopping about his football future.

The agreement was first reported by Fox Sports on its Web site.

“We just felt like this was an opportunity to go get somebody of Brett’s stature and what he’s accomplished,” Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum said during a conference call early Thursday morning. “We felt it was in the best interest of the team and when the opportunity presented itself, we felt it was the right move for us to make and we went ahead and did it.”

A number of fans made it clear throughout training camp that they wanted Favre on the Jets with signs and “Get Brett!” chants. Favre’s new No. 4 Jets jersey already was for sale on the team’s Web site about an hour after the trade was announced.

Tannenbaum, who said he had a “good” conversation with Favre, wouldn’t speculate whether the quarterback will play in New York beyond this season.

“We had discussions with him and his agent, Bus Cook,” Tannenbaum said, “and we’re going into this and we’re going to take this one year at a time and we’re excited to have Brett on the team this year.”

The arrival of Favre signals the end of Chad Pennington’s career with the Jets. Tannenbaum said there would be another transaction regarding Pennington, who spent his first eight seasons with the Jets.

“It’s a bittersweet moment for us,” Tannenbaum said. “I have all the respect in the world for Chad as a person, as a player. We’ve accomplished a lot of good things with Chad … He gave his heart and soul to this organization for a long, long time. I really appreciate everything he’s done.”

 
 

AP - Aug 7, 1:34 am EDT
 Favre left Green Bay on Wednesday, boarding a private plane that left for Hattiesburg, Miss. at 1:25 p.m. EDT with his wife, Deanna, and Cook. Favre’s family home is near Hattiesburg.

In Mississippi, Favre confirmed that he was considering the Jets and Buccaneers.

“We’re working on it,” Favre told Jackson TV station WJTV. “Hopefully, we can get something resolved. I’ve been saying that for quite a while now. I don’t want to say we’re running out of time, but I need to get into a camp somewhere.”

The 38-year-old Favre holds most major NFL passing records and led the Packers to the NFC Championship last season, where they lost to the New York Giants. Favre threw what would prove to be the decisive interception in overtime.

The Jets went into training camp with an open competition between Pennington and Kellen Clemens after neither established themselves during a 4-12 season. Pennington was 1-7 as the starter and was benched midway through the season. Clemens went 3-5, but Pennington actually had the better season statistically.

 


AP - Aug 7, 1:15 am EDT
 After some hope for reconciliation between Favre and the Packers earlier this week, the final split became obvious Tuesday evening.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy told reporters on Tuesday that after approximately six hours of what he called “brutally honest” conversations over two days, the coach had determined that Favre doesn’t have the right mind-set to play for the Packers.

McCarthy said Favre couldn’t seem to get past emotional wounds that were opened as tensions mounted in recent weeks—even with the chance to win his starting job back potentially on the table.

“The train has left the station, whatever analogy you want,” McCarthy said Tuesday. “He needs to jump on the train and let’s go. Or, if we can’t get past things that have happened, I have to keep the train moving.”

McCarthy said Wednesday he was happy the rest of his players were getting a chance to move forward.

“We talked about it last night,” McCarthy said. “The players want resolution, they want what everybody wants. To come out here every day and talk about somebody that is not here and then shows up, it’s gone on too long, and understandably so. They want to play football.”

AP Sports Writers Dennis Waszak Jr. in New York and Brett Martel in New Orleans contributed to this report.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on August 07, 2008, 09:38:13 AM
It should be interesting to see how he handles a whole new system and playing in the AFC.

On a side note, apparently there is a clause in the trade that says that if the Jets trade him to the Vikings, the the Packers get the Jets next three first round picks.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on August 21, 2008, 02:40:41 PM
Gene Upshaw (head of the NFL Players Association) died last night.  Cancer apparently.  I met him a couple times, watched the Redskins Vs. Cowboys in his skybox once.  Nice guy.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on August 24, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
I saw College football in the title so I figured I must post something...

Though I go to University of Maryland, I think the ACC is an awful football conference. Though I'm sure Clemson, VT and Boston College are going to be pretty good this year. If the terps have a good season this year, I'll wear underwear on my head to one of my finals. I'll wear it to all my finals if we get a good bowl game. But I seriously doubt that my school will have a good season. They haven't had a really great season since I was at Frostburg State.

Now onto the team I really care about: The Mountaineers. That's right I bleed blue and gold. I have a good feeling for WVU. Not sure if they'll get a national championship, but I see a great bowl game in their future.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on August 29, 2008, 09:20:05 AM
A lot of folks are picking WVU to have its first Heisman winner this season...if and when the 'Canes get back to their legendary level, ACC football will be a hell of a lot more respected than it is now.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on September 12, 2008, 06:29:35 PM
Well, so much for a Heisman winner from Morgantown.

Brady's injury makes the division and conference titles much more difficult for the Pats, but as long as Bill B. is calling the shots they are still a team to be reckoned with....
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on September 12, 2008, 06:30:52 PM
All I have to say is there will be Divine intervention when it comes to the Mountaineers.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 13, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
Hawkeyes win against hated state rivals Iowa State! 17-5.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 13, 2008, 09:06:23 PM
god I love that I have ABC HD, if only for tonight's game. so pretty....

it might make a member of the Big Ten losing to USC almost bearable. FUCK USC
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on September 13, 2008, 09:23:09 PM
say what you want about USC....their cheerleaders are all Heismann winners in my book.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 13, 2008, 09:29:50 PM
I will say that they are the most crooked motherfuckers in recruiting next to Les Miles and that they covered up Sanchez's sexual assault in his freshman year.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on September 13, 2008, 09:43:56 PM
I'm pretty happy with the Maryland game today. All this week on campus everyone was joking about how many points UC Berkeley were going to beat us with, and alas, the terps kicked ass.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 13, 2008, 11:12:29 PM
USC is destroying OSU right now.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on September 13, 2008, 11:38:45 PM
GO BUCKS!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 14, 2008, 12:55:30 AM
Tressel fucked up hardcore; he kept Boeckmann in and he kept choking and choking.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on September 14, 2008, 03:25:21 AM
no, USC was just better.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on September 14, 2008, 11:02:01 PM
Mrs. McCain was a USC cheerleader.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 15, 2008, 11:25:55 AM
Skins! Woooooo!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 15, 2008, 11:48:37 AM
no, USC was just better.

USC definitely had the better depth chart and talent, but OSU's defense did the best they could with being on the field as long as they were, and with the pressure they had from USC's offense. Without offensive production from Boeckmann (but there was from Pryor, pretty much whenever he was on the field) and Wells, it was much more lopsided than it could have been.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on September 15, 2008, 11:54:12 AM
About NFL Football, I'm happy to see the Steelers beat Cleveland! I'm hoping that the Ravens can do the same this coming Sunday. (Yeah  I like both Steelers and Ravens...long story on that.)

Though I'm not a huge skins fan, my older sister is a huge fan (she's the black sheep of the family haha),  I was impressed with their game yesterday.

ps- we really should have two different threads for college football and for NFL stuff. Otherwise, it's going to get confusing!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Tatertots on September 15, 2008, 03:07:08 PM
No. One thread!

God. Two? Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: fajwat on September 15, 2008, 04:37:14 PM
go bucs!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 15, 2008, 06:44:24 PM
No one cares about football. Trust me, this thread will get hardly get updated.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on September 15, 2008, 08:11:05 PM
I care about football. College football at least.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on September 15, 2008, 09:04:43 PM
I care about football. College football at least.

Yeah me too. Rather just have all college football. I don't follow NFL as much. It's just weird to me to discuss pro football with college football. There's a difference I think in how the game is played.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on September 16, 2008, 09:46:06 AM
I don't care if you love or hate either the Cowboys or the Eagles.  That was one hell of a game last night.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 16, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
It was pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 02, 2008, 03:05:07 PM
So...after 5 years on the waiting list...my name has come up for Redskins season tickets!

I'm not guaranteed tickets, but I am now guaranteed the chance to try every year.

Pumped?  Yes, lots!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 02, 2008, 03:06:22 PM
I'm afraid to ask how much they cost.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 02, 2008, 03:17:33 PM
400 or 700 per seat for the season (2 pre-season, 8 regular season).  Those are upper deck prices, but I can't believe that I'll have the option to buy anything lower (and not sure if I could afford it anyway).
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 02, 2008, 03:26:50 PM
Sounds like the economy's OK at Reggie's house.

I'll be by to rob you tonight.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
I just wanna say that college football has been crazy but USC lost so I'm happy.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 02, 2008, 03:46:59 PM
Sounds like the economy's OK at Reggie's house.

I'll be by to rob you tonight.

Oh, I can't afford it...but I'll beg, borrow, and steal for skins tickets!  Or, more likely, resell the high demand games (dallas, philly) for triple the price.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on October 03, 2008, 05:04:35 AM
DD is still gloating over his alma mater being back at #1 after a 5-year hiatus, though going the rest of the season undefeated may not be a realistic task for OU.

Considering that last season's BCS champ had 2 losses, there may still be a dozen or more squads with a real shot at the mythical national title, though WVU surely is not one of them.


Can America really stand the horror of Buffalo being back in the Super Bowl?

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 04, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
USC = BCS Chsmps.

Skins vs. Eagles tomorrow. Any trash talk, Vernae?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 06, 2008, 03:21:05 PM
Hail to the Redskins.

That is all.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on October 06, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
I hate to admit it, but they do look good so far. 


Once again, the Ravens blew it in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 06, 2008, 03:41:46 PM
Hail to the Redskins.

That is all.

You have no idea how afraid I am of jinxing it.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on October 20, 2008, 09:50:41 AM
Don't see the Titans as much of threat to go 16-0, but the Bengals just might be capable of the antipode.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: fajwat on October 20, 2008, 02:27:49 PM
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Bucs!!!!!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 20, 2008, 03:29:20 PM
Bucs are currently 5 -2. Not bad.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on October 28, 2008, 10:41:47 AM
It looks like we are gonna have another lame BCS title game in which the Big 11 rep (Penn St.) again gets its ass whooped by a vastly superior side from the Big 12 or SEC.


This year's Bengals look just as bad as last year's Miami team, so it might come to the wire as far as them registering a W.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on October 28, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
Marvin Lewis is going to lose his job in about thirty seconds.  Detriot has already given up for the season and is cleaning house.  Something the Bengals should have done before the trade deadline.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 03, 2008, 09:06:29 AM
Looks like DD's dis was just what Cincy needed to get motivated.

The dudes from Music City have to be one of the least awe-inspiring 8-0 teams ever....I see them fading during the last portion of the season.

The next few Saturdays will be quite a treat as a bunch of scenarios still exist for January, but I just hope someone knocks off PSU, so we will have a competitive finale.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
Um, hello.  The Falcons deserve a little love today I think.

After the first half against Oakland yesterday, the Falcons had over 300 total yards, 20 first downs and 24 points... Oakland had -2 total yards, 0 first downs and 0 points.  It's the first time in fifteen years that a team has had negative yardage going into the second half.

Matt Ryan has turned out to be a fucking awesome quarterback and the Falcons actually look better than they have in years.  I hope we've cut Michael Vick loose for good because I don't want him anymore.  I'll stick with Ryan.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 03, 2008, 03:15:02 PM
I hope we've cut Michael Vick loose for good because I don't want him anymore.  I'll stick with Ryan.

I'm sure this can't really happen until he (if ever) is reinstated from his indefinite suspension.  I see that as very unlikely, but we'll see.  The Falcons will officially release him at that point and no one will touch him.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
Well, he's going to be in federal prison for the next 11 months, so I'm not that worried about it.  Ryan is kicking so much ass STRAIGHT out of college that everyone in Atlanta idolizes the guy right now... you can feel Atlanta starting to actually be hopeful about the Falcons' prospects again.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 03, 2008, 03:37:35 PM
Don't get too juiced just yet regarding Atlanta.....looking impressive against these Raiders is no tough task.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 03:40:00 PM
hahaha yeah, no doubt.  This season has felt like a write-off since we found out Vick was going to be in prison for 2 years at the end of last year, so to have them come out and be anything besides one of the worst teams in the league is cause for celebration on our part.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 03, 2008, 03:43:07 PM
I'm with Nubs. 5 -3 at the halfway point is pretty damned good.

The problem is with the NFC East being so ridiculous awesome (The Cowboys will rally when Romo and Witten come back. Mark my words. And remember, I'm a Redskins fan.), Atlanta has to win the division to get to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 03:44:44 PM
Yeah, well... I don't think anyone's kidding themselves here.  Even if the Falcons were to somehow make the playoffs, I don't think even the most die hard Falcons fan would give them much of a chance once there.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 03, 2008, 03:46:22 PM
Still, you can't say they suck either.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 03:49:44 PM
Holy shit... the Titans are 8-0?!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: vernae on November 03, 2008, 04:10:40 PM
Go Eagles!! By the way, I went to the Phillies parade and it was awesome!!!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 03, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
Holy shit... the Titans are 8-0?!

Oh, you haven't been paying attention? Yeah, it's crazy. Nothing is what everyone thought it would be.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 03, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
Yeah, I haven't... I hate not being able to watch football.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 04, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
Though I am not a Steelers fan by any stretch of the imagination, I had to root for them last night after I saw that they had the cajones to start the game with an onside kick. The Redskins are headed for an early playoff exit at best folks...
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 04, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
Redskins had trouble on offense due to protection problems for Jason Campbell.

I'm not ready to give up on them yet.  I think Pittsburgh matches up with them well in ways that not many other teams can.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on November 04, 2008, 09:00:55 PM
man, what a great game last night.  In case i didn't make clear, i'm a big steelers fan, and when you can hold someone scoreless for more than 3 quarters, give Jason Campbell his first INT, and have your backup play a whole half and put up 14 points on the board, it's a good day.  I'm feeling a lot better about our chances going into the second half of the season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 04, 2008, 09:38:56 PM
Are you a Saints fan yet?  If so, I think we're supposed to be mortal enemies or something.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on November 04, 2008, 09:56:10 PM
i watch them with an amused interest and, if necessary, root for them playoff-wise.  but i don't hate the panthers or tampa bay or anything.  we actually went to that god-awful Monday Night game versus minnesota.  that was pretty cool. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on November 06, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
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The Oakland Raiders’ decision to waive DeAngelo Hall just eight games after signing him to a $70 million contract brought surprised reactions from his teammates who now wonder even more about the future of the franchise.

Al Davis has finally gone 'round the bend.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on November 06, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
Brady Quinn...or as my friend calls him...Hottie McFine Ass starts for the Browns tonight
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on November 07, 2008, 10:13:38 AM
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CB DeAngelo Hall cleared waivers Thursday and quickly heard from three contending teams interested in signing him as a free agent.

The New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers and Washington Redskins all expressed interest in Hall, according to a source close to Hall. A league source confirmed that Washington had contacted Hall, but messages with New England and Pittsburgh were not immediately returned.

The Patriots had been rumored Wednesday to be interested in Hall to help upgrade a secondary depleted by injury and free agent departures. The Patriots lost both Randall Gay and Asante Samuel in the offseason when they signed with other teams. Current Patriots Ellis Hobbs and Lewis Sanders have either been limited or have not participated at all in practice this week. In addition, backup Terrence Wheatley also is on the injury report.

Likewise, the Steelers and Redskins have dealt with injuries in their secondaries. Washington could especially appeal to Hall, who grew up in Chesapeake, Va.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 07, 2008, 11:01:21 AM
hahaha have fun with that guy!  He's a tool.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 07, 2008, 11:07:39 AM
He's almost a perfect fit here.  I mean, I always worry about chemistry, but if we could give him a test run for this year...he could really help.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 07, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
Well, he's a hell of a football player, that is for sure.  He just also happens to be a huge pain in the ass. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on November 07, 2008, 12:17:31 PM
What's really funny is one of the girls that I work with is a sorority sister with his wife.  My co-worker says he is a huge asshole.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 07, 2008, 12:18:54 PM
Yeah, he never got along well here.  Couple his shitty attitude with all the other crap we went through last year with Vick and the entire city got sick of him real fast.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 07, 2008, 12:19:57 PM
Also, it's saying something when not just one but two teams having shitty seasons would rather let a great football player go than put up with his bullshit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on November 07, 2008, 04:51:38 PM
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Even though DeAngelo Hall wanted to take the weekend to consider 15 or more scenarios for a new team, the cornerback decided Friday to accept a one-year deal from the Washington Redskins, according to his agent, Joel Segal.

Ha!

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 09, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Thank Allah for the result from Iowa.....now we are assured a somewhat reasonable finale for College football between the top teams from the top 2 conferences (Big 12, Sec).

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 17, 2008, 07:00:32 AM
One of the most peculiar Sundays for the NFL in a long while: a tie, and safeties scored in multiple games.

'Skins fans can pretty much call it a season. Campbell is not a QB that can take a team to the promised land on his own, and unlike guys like Dilfer and Brad Johnson who've done it in recent years he does not have a dominating defense to compensate during the playoff run.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 17, 2008, 09:06:45 AM
It's not Campbell, DD. It's the O-line.  Campbell is given no time to do anything.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 17, 2008, 11:04:04 AM
Falcons went down against the Broncos this weekend... it was a pretty good fight.  They should have won the game, but White dropped a huge pass in the endzone and that was all she wrote. 

I caught the last few minutes of the Steelers game yesterday too.  Weird as shit.  10-11 final.  It's the first time in NFL history that a game ended 10-11.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 17, 2008, 04:18:50 PM
I agree with RC.  Skins' O-line needs help.  Campbell is a beast.

That said...I don't like the direction things are going for this season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 17, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
Anyone catch Barack on 60 minutes last night?  They were getting him to talk about the BCS and how messed up it is.  He outlined a plan for an 8-team playoff series that would end in a Superbowl-ish game.  It was great, man.  It sounded exactly like he was laying out economic or foreign policy in these ultra-serious tones, but then you take a step back and realize... hey, he's talking about college football!  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on November 18, 2008, 02:30:55 AM
I will have to look up this interview from 60 Minutes. It sounds pretty awesome. I agree with him about the current BCS system being bullshit.

While on the topic of college football...I'm happy that WVU are right now 3rd in the Big East. Hopefully, they'll take care of business with their last three games, especially the one against Pitt. I am not sure, however, if they'll win the Big East title this year because Cincinnati seem to be on a major roll right now with an 8-2 record. Then again, Cincinnati could lose sometime before the end of their season.

I'm also thrilled with my school. For once in a long time, it looks like the Terps have proven themselves. Despite losing to Virginia Tech a week and a half ago, this past weekend's win against UNC was fantastic. It looks like if the team plays good against Florida State (I'm going to that game this weekend. I can get guest passes for 20 or 25 bucks if anyone is interested...) and in their last game which is against Boston College, we just might get the ACC title. I know that the ACC isn't really that big of a football conference, but this is exciting because I don't think there's been this good of a season since before I started going to school here.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 19, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Fighting the financial powers-that-be of College football is almost as daunting a battle as fighting the healthcare honchos. BO will have as much chance of putting a collegiate playoff in effect as Hillary did with her dream of an American NHS.

Have to disagree with Reg on JC, far from a "beast" I would say, as I remember him from Auburn and he left lots to be desired even then. I would agree however that if CP gets better blocking he is the type of back to carry a team very far, but that has not happened this year.

The Titans last win was likely their most impressive so far this season, as JAX is always a tough place to visit, but I still see an NFC side winning the SB.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 19, 2008, 11:05:22 AM
I agree... I doubt he'll be able to influence the way the BCS is run all that much.  I was talking with a friend of mine about it yesterday and he brought up a good point.  One of the main reasons college football is the way it is is because it gives exposure to more teams.  If you've got four thousand different bowl games, people have more to watch and a wider variety of teams to watch as well.  The problem with a system like the one Obama's proposing is that it narrows the focus of college football and may cause some of the fringe teams to drop out of the public eye a little bit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 24, 2008, 02:01:20 AM
<3 Matt Ryan
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 25, 2008, 02:10:50 PM
Turkey Day featuring a winless Detroit and a freefalling Philly could be hard to stomach (pun intended). Amazing how McNabb came out and admitted that he did not know that NFL games could end in ties...if I had put money on the Cincy-Philly game I would furious.

DD would like to see a Florida-Oklahoma championship game since it would feature the two teams playing the best College ball nowadays.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on November 25, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
All the NFL shows were having a field day with that McNabb comment.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 29, 2008, 10:32:25 PM
I usually don't watch much college football so this may be a really dumb question, but what the hell do the sports-casters mean when they talk about a "true" freshman?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on November 30, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
A true freshman is straight out of High School, while a redshirt freshman is in his second year in College, but he did not play at all during his first year.

Next Saturday's Big 12 and SEC Championship games promise to be a treat. Amazing how little respect Alabama is getting as the #1 squad in the nation...everyone is looking ahead to a Florida-OU or Florida-Texas finale in January, but I think the game in Atlanta will be a tight one, though I still expect Tebow to wear the Tide defense down at the end.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Tatertots on November 30, 2008, 02:43:33 PM
Cal Poly played the most embarrassing playoff game I've ever seen in my life. I stopped cheering after the first quarter because we played like total nincompoops.

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Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 30, 2008, 07:26:06 PM
RC calls it: The Redskins season is over.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on November 30, 2008, 08:41:01 PM
i called that eight weeks ago!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 01, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
I actually got to watch a bunch of football this weekend!

I agree with DD... Bama is totally being outshined by Florida for some reason and I don't know why.  Maybe it's because Tebow is a pretty boy.

There were some fantastic games on Saturday though... holy shit.  Kansas-Missouri was nuts as was Georgia-Georgia Tech and Oklahoma-Oklahoma State.  In fact, it would be hard to choose which game was the best among them because they were all so much fun to watch.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 02, 2008, 01:54:55 PM
I have a feeling that this year's Tide could very well replicate the 1992 squad which nobody took seriously till they beat the crap out of Miami for the title and a perfect season.

The Giants are far and away the best team in the NFL nowadays, but I will be quite curious to see how they will handle the favorites tag in the playoffs, as when they've been Champs before it has been as an outsider sneaking up on the higher rated squads.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 02, 2008, 02:17:37 PM
The Jets look pretty fucking good as well.

I'm still excited about my Falcons though.  Those boys have a lot of heart.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 02, 2008, 02:39:32 PM
whoops, except the Jets lost on Sunday.  doh.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 04, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
Two HUGE games this weekend.  Steelers Vs. Cowboys and Ravens Vs. Redskins.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: fajwat on December 04, 2008, 04:13:21 PM
Go Bucs!!!!!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 04, 2008, 05:23:46 PM
Actually having their best season since they won the Super Bowl, but I still see them as a longshot to go all the way.

I actually wish Baltimore and Washington were in the same division, ergo playing each other twice a season and making it one of the more intense rivalries in the League. Dallas and even NY/NJ are too far away.....but this year is a lost cause for both as far as long playoff run.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 04, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
That Pittsburgh/Dallas game is going to be good.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on December 04, 2008, 11:55:43 PM
as a steelers fan, and after coming off last week's domination of the patriots, i'm very psyched, but a little worried about how banged up we're getting.  either we're going to roll into the playoffs confident with a couple more good wins or limp in with injuries and bad attitudes.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 05, 2008, 12:03:47 AM
That Steelers defense is crazy good. As long as they keep young Romolicious tamped down, you should be all right.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on December 05, 2008, 12:35:50 AM
the defense has been great even in our losses.  it's the slow-to-start offense that worries me.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2008, 08:08:27 AM
The key is going to be how long the Cowboys can keep the Steelers offense off the field.  Two huge factors will contribute to this game.  How is Tashard Choice going to handle more of the workload, and will the Steelers DB's play bump and run and or lay off like SF did.  If they lay off then T.O. and Roy Williams will tear them up all afternoon.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 05, 2008, 09:42:45 AM
Is Demarcus Ware in or out for this game?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2008, 11:31:38 AM
He is listed as probable, so I think he will play.  He practiced yesterday.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: fajwat on December 05, 2008, 01:18:08 PM
I'm amazed at the amount of thought that goes into spectating football.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 05, 2008, 01:37:00 PM
Everyone has their little obsessions, Mr. Audiophile.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2008, 02:50:52 PM
I'm amazed at the amount of thought that goes into spectating football.

It IS a multi-billion dollar industry.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2008, 02:56:29 PM
HA!  O.J. Simpson got a minimun of 6yrs!  You would think after getting away with double homicide he would have stayed clean.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 05, 2008, 05:40:39 PM
Actually, he got 15 years with the possibility of parole in 5... at least that's the way I understood it.  The sentencing was kinda confusing though.  The judge read off like 9 charges with the penalties associated with each, but I think they're all being served concurrently.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 05, 2008, 05:49:38 PM
Yea, I was thinking of time he HAD to serve not the full sentence.

The TV at the gym was tuned to CNN and it was all over the bottom of the screen.  Snooze!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 07, 2008, 11:39:20 AM
Next Saturday's Heisman ceremony in NYC will be one of the rare ones with an air of suspense. Tebow's performance yesterday and the fact that the Southern voters will back him heavily might have secured a second trophy in a row, though to me Sam The Man is more deserving.

Great to see them in a duel in Miami next month, with one having a chip on his shoulder for having been dissed for the Heisman.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 08, 2008, 10:56:37 AM
...to me Sam The Man is more deserving.

I agree.  Didn't OU win 5 games in a row with over 60 points?  That's a collegiate record, yeah?  The guy is incredible.  Tebow got it last year, so Sam should definitely get it this year.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 08, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
As much as I hate to admit it the only teams in my lifetime that I can remember with such firepower were both from Nebraska; the first being the 1983 side that came up just short of the national title, and the second in 1995 that blew everyone out on the way to the title.

BUT, if I were a betting man I would bet against my alma mater at this point; considering their long streak of BCS losses and more importantly Florida's de facto home field advantage.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 10, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
How 'bout Portis going ballistic on Coach Zorn's ass on the radio?

After this season's highlights I think it's safe to consider Ed Reed the best Safety the NFL has seen since Ronnie Lott, and possibly the greatest ever in his position by the time he calls it a career. To me the same applies to his teammate Ray Lewis as far LB's. Given a break or two the Ravens could replicate their 2001 playoffs.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 10, 2008, 03:30:27 PM
I think with a little luck and if they stay relatively injury free then the Ravens have a good chance of going deep into the playoffs. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 10, 2008, 04:47:54 PM
Zorn and Portis had a make-out session today.  They are now "cool" with everything.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 10, 2008, 06:13:03 PM
Skins = snore
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 10, 2008, 11:47:26 PM
Some scribe labeled them the "Deadskins" today.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 11, 2008, 12:39:10 AM
That sounds accurate to me.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 11, 2008, 10:34:17 AM
Huge rivalry game this weekend with the Ravens Vs. Steelers.  AFC North Championship is on the line.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 11, 2008, 12:50:36 PM
Falcons vs. Bucs is this weekend too!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 14, 2008, 02:20:07 PM
Colt coming in second was a big surprise as far as the Heisman...TT must feel quite pissed at having more first-place votes and finishing third overall.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 15, 2008, 12:34:27 AM
I fucking hate Pittsburgh!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 15, 2008, 01:31:19 AM
At least Bradford won.  He deserved to win more than the rest I think.

Falcons eked out a win against the Bucs today!  It was a nailbiter.  Very strange game.  Ryan was intercepted twice, penalties plagued the Bucs all day long.  It had the atmosphere of a playoff game, and I think nerves got the better of both teams.  I'm just glad we won!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 15, 2008, 06:39:50 PM
After seeing the Titans this week and the Giants last week, it's clear that both divisions's place in the Super Bowl is wide open this season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 15, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
After the regular season ends, I'll be posting my playoffs/Super Bowl predictions.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 16, 2008, 11:42:23 AM
The Falcons....... are actually.... going to have a winning season this year?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 16, 2008, 03:32:07 PM
Ryan looks like the most solid Rookie QB since Brady, so the future is shiny for the Falcons to say the least.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 16, 2008, 03:44:48 PM
Yep.  Everyone in Atlanta is stoked and excited about football again.  It has been a long couple of years for Falcons fans.  Though I would love to see us go to the post season, I already feel like 2008 has been a great year for Falcons football and I won't be disappointed in them if they don't make it.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 16, 2008, 05:16:41 PM
Atlanta and Miami, man. Those are my two teams to watch next season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 16, 2008, 06:24:36 PM
Though as a lifelong Dolfan I can't complain about the record for the season, I'm far from sold on Pennington as a solution at QB.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 16, 2008, 07:21:53 PM
I think he's likely only a short term solution.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 17, 2008, 11:18:15 AM
After last year, who could have imagined that Miami would even be close to as good as they are now?  It's insane.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 17, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
Well...I think we can agree on that team still being much more talented than this year's Lions.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 18, 2008, 11:48:03 AM
There are high school football squads that could give the Lions a run for their money.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 18, 2008, 12:17:37 PM
That Thanksgiving game against the Titans was embarrassing.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 18, 2008, 06:01:23 PM
But I must admit that they have been in a handful of games which they could have pulled out with a bit more confidence and coaching. A couple of times they have jumped out to fairly substantial leads just to let it slip away as the game wore on.

They are playing their last 2 games against teams (NO, GB) that are also headed nowhere, so they might just squeeze out a win.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 18, 2008, 06:03:34 PM
One of the NFL summaries I watched did a whole big segment on Detroit and the sorry state of the entire city... corrupt officials, etc.  It was actually really interesting and kinda sad.  You have a town absolutely filled with die hard sports fanatics that bleed their team colors, meanwhile the Ford family is slowly running the Lions into the ground. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 18, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
But also keep in mind that with the Pistons and Red Wings in town, the denizens of the Motor City have had it better in the last few years that many other fans in big cities across America (can you say Seattle?)
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 21, 2008, 05:12:39 PM
Bucs lost! Cowboys AND Redskins could still make the playoffs!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on December 21, 2008, 05:28:11 PM
steelers too.  what a horrific game.  sports illustrated curse strikes again!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 21, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
I didn't get to watch, but I was kind of shocked at the score in that game.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on December 21, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
there was a last minute interception TD that sort of skewed the final score, but still the steelers offense really let everyone down.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 22, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
Holy shit guys... yesterday was nuts!!!  With Tampa going down in flames, the Falcons secured their spot in the playoffs by beating the Vikings.  I couldn't believe it when I saw that Tampa had lost... THEN the friggin Jets lose to the SEAHAWKS?!  The Giants beat the Panthers in OT last night, which is also awesome since they're leading our division.

Also, how about those Skins, man?!  Holy shit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 22, 2008, 11:18:35 AM
Sadly, Skins are eliminated from the playoffs by the Falcons clinching their spot.

Also, they have no offense, only defense.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 22, 2008, 11:27:14 AM
I am still really surprised they won.  That play at the end of the game was RIDICULOUS.  We were mainly watching the Jets game, so I didn't see much of it, but they did well to beat Philly.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 22, 2008, 11:47:16 AM
Oh yes, their defense dominated Philly.  But the Skins' only touchdown came on a defense-caused fumble deep in Philly territory.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 22, 2008, 02:49:50 PM
The ATL-MIN and WAS-PHI games were two of the best so far this season hands down.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 22, 2008, 03:09:30 PM
The Giants/Panthers game last night was the best game of the week to me. Carolina is a potential conference champ.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 22, 2008, 04:18:35 PM
DOWN WITH CAROLINA!

God I hope we don't have to play them at home again.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 23, 2008, 10:15:29 AM
This is great!

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Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 23, 2008, 06:35:49 PM
Is there video of that?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on December 23, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
The pic is much clearer, but here's the video.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 23, 2008, 07:20:14 PM
That's hilarious.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 24, 2008, 12:31:15 AM
hahahahahaaaa... as if the rams needed help sucking ass.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Tatertots on December 28, 2008, 11:49:43 PM
Lawl @ Detroit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on December 29, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
The Bucs fan on this forum must surely still be drowning his or her sorrows...at least they were not the only major Chokers down the stretch: NYJ and the Cowgirls also fit the bill.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 29, 2008, 05:48:39 PM
The Cowboys went out like punks.

How about Miami and Phatlanta though?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 29, 2008, 06:11:01 PM
Okay, as promised . . . below is RC's playoff picture. I'll update it as I'm wrong.  Keep in mind that if Big Ben doesn't get over his concussion and play, everything changes.

Wild Card Weekend:
-Atlanta beats Arizona because the Cardinals are a sham.
-Indianapolis beats San Diego for the exact same reason. Also Indy is on a hot streak.
-Baltimore at Miami . . . See, I think the Ravens will win, but my heart is with Miami. I'm pulling for the Dolphins, but I'm not sure they can take down the Ravens.
-Philly @ Minnesota . . . I honestly have no idea, but I'll go with Philly because of the manhandling they gave Dallas.

Divisional:
AFC:
-I have the Colts playing the Titans, and I think Tennessee will end Indy's winning streak.
-Whoever wins the Ravens/Dolphins game gets beat by the Steelers, so it really doesn't matter.
NFC:
-Nubbins, I don't think the Falcons will upset the Giants, but I'm pulling for them. That said, with all that seems to be going wrong in NY, I still think they win here.
-Carolina beats Philly because they're awesome.

Championship Games:
-Carolina WILL upset the Giants I think. Again, they're awesome.
-Steelers will beat the Titans . . . barely.

Super Bowl:
-Steelers over the Panthers by 5.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 30, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
I think that's a pretty realistic outlook for the post season, RC.  I landed back in ATL on Sunday afternoon, grabbed my bags from baggage claim and hopped on a MARTA train north.  I just so happened to roll through downtown ATL just as the game was letting out, so the train was filled to capacity with Falcons fans all the way from the Dome up to Dunwoody where I live.  I can say without a doubt that everyone in Atlanta is just pleased as shit with our football team.  Most people don't even seem to care how they do in the playoffs... obviously we'd LOVE for them to win, but they've so far exceeded any of our expectations that there's nothing but love for them here, regardless of what happens.

I also agree... I can't believe how many teams choked in the last few weeks.  Atlanta's always scared of the Bucs and to have them go to shit so quickly is kind of amazing.  I thought my step-dad was going to throw the television through a window when the Jets lost last weekend.  Everyone in New York wants Mangini's head on a plate.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 30, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
Mangini got the boot yesterday.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on December 30, 2008, 01:58:12 PM
Fired the wrong guy if you ask me... Farve sucked ass those last few games.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 03, 2009, 11:13:24 PM
And I'm already off to a horrible start! Arizona knocks out Atlanta.

Sorry Nubbins, but look at how far you guys came from last year. Lots to build on in Atlanta. The Falcons will be a force to be reckoned with next season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 04, 2009, 01:38:57 AM
Indy loses in overtime and I'm 0 -2 on my picks.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 04, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Ravens won! I got that one right.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 05, 2009, 11:02:35 AM
Goddamn that Arizona game was fucking painful to watch.  Atlanta SHOULD have won that game.  They just looked really out of their element.  So depressing.

But yeah, look how far we came.  That's the important thing.  2009 is going to be a good year for the Falcons.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 05, 2009, 06:05:12 PM
I think all four NFL results last weekend can be considered minor upsets.

Loads of trash talk starting to fly now between the 2 teams playing for the Collegiate title later this week. Should be very interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 05, 2009, 06:22:04 PM
Fiesta Bowl tonight! OSU vs. Texas, isn't it?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 07, 2009, 10:18:22 AM
Water covers 71% of the earth.....Ed Reed covers the rest.

Go Ravens!

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Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 08, 2009, 03:27:58 PM
DD is having a major panic attack in the hours leading up to his old school battling out for the title....but Allah willing; a case of deja vu all over again (i.e. a 55-19 defeat circa 4 years ago versus USC) is very unlikely.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 09, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
Sadly it was deja vu all over again for OU, but in this case not the USC championship defeat; but rather the one the year before to LSU, when the Heisman winner leading the nation's top offense stumbled all over himself in a very winnable game. Oklahoma is dangerously close to becoming the Braves or Bills of the College gridiron.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 09, 2009, 11:17:40 AM
Sorry man... I know how you feel right now.  All I have left to look forward to is Super Bowl Commercials.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2009, 02:45:14 PM
I'm not too much do a college football guy though I watched more this year than I have in the past. I heard this year's BCS game was a nail biter.

What's everybody's opinion on college playoffs? The current system seems arcane and flawed on a lot of levels, but the argument that the players are college students and need to study for finals (when playoffs would take place) also seems a valid one. I would propose a "Final Four" type system that takes place in January and February.


EDIT: This weekend's playoff picks are coming soon.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 09, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
As much as people complain about the BCS, I think the current system probably does the best job as far as giving a large number of schools some exposure on the national stage.  That, in my opinion, would be the biggest problem with going to a smaller, playoff system.  You would end up losing some of the diversity present in college football with the 30 some odd bowl games we end up having every year.  Of course, the problem with the BCS the way it is is that teams are seeded in a somewhat arbitrary fashion and it pisses people off.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 09, 2009, 03:00:49 PM
No schools are in session over Christmastime.  
Start the playoffs then and end them the 2nd weekend of January.  
That gives you 3 weeks and 8 teams that you can seed in a one and done tournament.

1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5.  Winners move on, highest seed plays the lowest seed.

Use the top tier of bowl games to host these.

Use the lower tier games to build intriguing match ups that are outside of the playoffs but give schools national spotlight.

You can include more teams by adding a week.  Personally, I think college football sucks because there is no winner at the end.  It would be awesome to have college football playoffs that lasted 5 weeks with 32 teams in.  Then there would be no doubt that the team that won it all was the champ and everyone who had any HOPE of winning it all, got a shot.



This weekend's playoff picks: HOME TEAM WINS.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2009, 03:06:04 PM
You make sense, Nubbins. However, the Final Four allows for the disparity you talk about in basketball. Case in point is George Mason's Final Four run a few years back.

To me, there should be a way to do that without booting the Boise State's of the country off national TV.

Reggie, your college playoff scenario earns you my vote for Treasury Secretary. Go fix the economy!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 09, 2009, 03:09:48 PM
Oh man, if only I could be the first Libertarian Treasury Secretary....
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
Holy shit! Mangini went to the Browns. Who knew?

Okay, here's my NFL picks. I'm only doing this weekend since I'm obviously bad at this.

Baltimore @ Tennessee: I'm going against Reggie and his home team theory and saying that Ed Reed and the Raven knock the Titans out of it. Baltimore is on a serious roll and their defense is wicked awesome. Ravens by 3.

Arizona @ Carolina: I still say the Cardinals are a sham. Plus, Carolina has played solid ball all season. Carolina by 5.

Philadelphia@ New York: I think the Eagles upset the Giants.  It juts feels that way. Philly by 5.

San Diego @ Pittsburgh: The Chargers are another team I just don't see having all the elements to do it. Most people are picking this as their upset game, but I'm going with the Steelers by 7.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 09, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
Carolina is going to absolutely destroy Arizona.  ESPECIALLY at home.  In Carolina's division, only one game in division play was lost by a home team all season.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 09, 2009, 04:02:37 PM
Carolina will be my rooting interest until they are eliminated.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2009, 04:07:53 PM
I'm still think my initial Carolina/Pittsburgh Super Bowl prediction could still happen, though Indy going out in the first week threw off my chi.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 09, 2009, 04:18:25 PM
I'd love to see a Steelers/Ravens AFC championship game.  And I would love to see a Ravens/Eagles Superbowl. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 09, 2009, 04:24:42 PM
I'd love to see a Steelers/Ravens AFC championship game. 

We'll be at your house watching it if that's the case, right?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 09, 2009, 04:29:08 PM
Oh yes..most definetly.  On the big 50"er too.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 09, 2009, 09:35:42 PM
hahaha, check this out... it's from an article about Obama's desire for a college football playoff.

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Each year, Republicans and Democrats alike are angered by what they see as inherent unfairness in the BCS arrangement. In 2008, legislators -- for one reason or another -- drafted legislation to invalidate the BCS on grounds that it misdirects commerce.

In an April resolution, the House of Representatives formally, if not forcibly, condemned the BCS as "an illegal restraint of trade that violates the Sherman Anti-Trust Act" and also urged the Justice Department's Antitrust Division to investigate. Since this resolution, though, no serious action has been pursued.

Your tax dollars at work!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 10, 2009, 08:52:13 PM
Ravens in the AFC Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 10, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
I'm 1 - 0 this weekend!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 11, 2009, 11:17:09 AM
Arizona shocks the Panthers.  I guess they're not a sham.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 11, 2009, 02:48:16 PM
That win by Arizona has to be one of the greatest upsets in NFL playoff history.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 11, 2009, 07:27:03 PM
Arizona isn't really this good are they?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 12, 2009, 12:14:26 AM
Well, Atlanta losing stings a little less now.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 12, 2009, 09:38:52 AM
I was 3 - 1 on my picks this weekend which is a nice rebound.

Reggie, your "home team wins" theory was not the best choice.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 12, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
Whether it's the Cards or the Eagles, either team has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl now.  Because the game between the Steelers and Ravens will be a knock-down, hard-hitting, slug fest.  Either team will go limping into Tampa.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 12, 2009, 12:31:32 PM
Reggie, your "home team wins" theory was not the best choice.

It's true...out of 8 games this post season, I am 2 and 6.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 12, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
That upcoming Ravens/Steelers game SHOULD be the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 13, 2009, 03:14:28 PM
Wouldn't a Steelers triumph give them the most SB trophies amongst all NFL teams?

I would like to see 'Zona win it all, but it is still a very tall task.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 14, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
It would.  Dallas, SF, and Pittsburgh all have 5 trophies today.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
Sirharles reminded me today that the championship games are Sunday not Saturday.

I'm picking Philly to beat the Cardinals. I've picked against Arizona twice now and been burned, but third time's the charm, right?

Ravens vs. Steelers . . . Man, I just don't know. It's going to be one hell of a good game. I'll get back on this one.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 14, 2009, 03:25:01 PM
I'm picking Philly to win and I REALLY want the Ravens to win, but I just don't know. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2009, 05:16:59 PM
I like both teams so it's tough to lean one way or the other for any personal reason.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 15, 2009, 09:53:53 AM
I pick both PA teams to win.

My biggest hope is that the Ravens will lose, because I'm SOOOO sick of hearing about them.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 15, 2009, 10:29:41 AM
My biggest hope is that the Ravens will lose, because I'm SOOOO sick of hearing about them.

Don't be a hater...of course I say that feeling the exact same way about the redskins so...you know.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 15, 2009, 10:36:14 AM
I'm not explicitly a hater...just tired.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 15, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
So the Baltimore Ravens are the Barack Obama of this year's NFL season?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 16, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
I can't wait for sunday!
(https://greatsociety.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fphoto%2F2009%2F0115%2Fnfl_ap_scott_roethlisberger1_576.jpg&hash=301626a55e88d3d0326d76ceb30e92c5328df279)
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 16, 2009, 03:02:42 PM
If I was laying cash on both games this Sunday, I would favor an all-PA SB in Tampa, but the other 2 teams have a very good shot as well.

Have y'all been reading about how along with Braford, Oklahoma had all its other draftable underclassmen return for next season? Can't remember the same thing going down at another major College program in recent years. I actually think Texas Colt has the inside track to the next Heisman over both Tebow and Bradford, as voters tend to shun repeat winners. Also very likely that the winner of the Red River shootout in Dallas come October will be in Pasadena for the next BCS title game.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 16, 2009, 03:15:26 PM
All I've heard about all day is Pete Carroll and the Snachez situation.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: saintangelsin on January 18, 2009, 12:43:45 AM
That upcoming Ravens/Steelers game SHOULD be the Super Bowl.

I agree! I hope the Ravens win. (Strangely though, if the Steelers were to win, I'd want them to go against Philly, just so I could see Pennsylvania be a majorly divided state)
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on January 18, 2009, 02:24:52 AM
steelers are going to win.  and win big.  not just cause i'm a fan.  just cause that's how these things work out.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 19, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
Steelers vs. Arizona in the Super Bowl!

I've bet against Arizona the entire playoffs, so I'm trying to decide if I should stay consistent or jump on the bandwagon here at the end.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 19, 2009, 12:12:50 PM
Seriously... I can't believe Arizona pulled out that win.  What an awesome game.  I didn't get to see all of the Steelers game, but based on the little I saw, I'm not surprised that they won.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 19, 2009, 12:21:08 PM
I didn't see it either, but I heard the Ravens really dropped the ball . .  literally.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on January 19, 2009, 12:49:31 PM
I wonder if any of y'all Ravens fans had the thought of 'what if Kyle B. was taking the snaps?' in the back of your nous during last evening's affair...Ryan And Flacco proved again that no matter how mature or talented a Rookie QB, a place in the SB is just too much to ask. Heck, just look at Big Ben and Brady's first seasons.

Though Mr. Ed to me is still the best Safety on the face of the earth, Troy P. is surely less than a notch behind, and the only other Safety that can dominate a game. The Silky Samoan is exactly in the same kind of groove that he was in during the 05-06 playoffs, and y'all remember what the Steelers accomplished back then...

Credit to the Cardinals for rising to the occasion after that miserable third quarter when surely all of us had them written off, and also to the Eagles for bouncing back from an atrocious first half; when it seemed they were going to be blown out.

My humble opinion regarding the game in Tampa is that the Cardinals O-line will be the key. If they can give the oh-so-languid Pop Warner time to throw, and also for James and Hightower to eat time off the clock; 'Zona can pull it off, or at least make it close till the end; if not, then we could be in for as unappetizing a Super Bowl as the last time Pittsburgh won it (to me the PIT-SEA game in Detroit was hands down the most boring Super Sunday, Ever !)
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Cassander on January 19, 2009, 08:47:02 PM
even as a steelers fan, i agree with you about the Seattle superbowl.  i honestly felt uncomfortable watching what seemed to be more of a week three type of game in terms of glamor and energy.  god.  hopefully arizona will at least put up a fight, but it seems to me that overall the championship games have always been more exciting than their superbowl counterparts, last year being the exception.  i doubt we'll have one for the ages on feb 1st, but it has been a hell of a good season to watch if you're a steelers fan, watching them pull out tight victories week after week, then finally getting the whole team healthy and watching them take everyone apart in the playoffs.  if we'd been 100% from week one, i think we seriously could've had a chance at going undefeated. 
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 22, 2009, 11:28:22 AM
So it appears that everybody I know is going to the Super Bowl.  I hate being poor.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 22, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
My brother-in-law is going. Tickets are apparently cheaper this year than they've ever been.

They're still ridiculous of course.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on January 22, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
Yea, all the people I know are getting hooked up through corporate sponsors and shit.  One of my friends is going with the NFLPA......bitch.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on January 22, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
You know, it's a little bitter seeing Arizona go all the way this year.  I started to think about it, and really the only reason the Falcons lost to them was because of some crazy fumble that they got lucky with and were able to return for a touchdown.  Without that play, Atlanta would have won the game by 1 point and ... well, who knows!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on February 02, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
Odd that nobody has yet to comment on a SB that ranks among the top 10 (or perhaps even top 5) ever!

Although it would be unfair to postulate that the Steelers do not deserve the title, it would be fair to conclude that 'Zona blew the game through a bunch of silly and costly penalties, porous pass defense at crucial times, and of course the disastrous turnover at the end of the first half.

The refs also put in a handful of dubious calls that favored the Steelers (oddly enough the same happened the last time PIT won the SB back in '06).

The Harrison TD must rank only second to the Mike Jones tackle that won the SB for the Rams on the last play of the game as far as decisive defensive plays. Us wizened GS members remember the immortal Jack Squirek's INT for a TD against the Redskins back in the 1984 SB, but last night's was more crucial and spectacular in nature.

I thinks that during the next few years there could be a rivalry for rings between Big Ben, the Manning brothers (DD thinks the Colts still have a decent squad for the forseeable future) and Brady (if healthy), that will rival what the NBA had when Jordan, Bird, Isiah and EMJ were all active.


Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on February 02, 2009, 05:35:42 PM
It was a great game that will go down in books as one of the most exciting Super Bowls in history. 

Yea.. I agree the refs did make some bogus calls on that last drive from Pittsburgh.  But it was Arizona's defense that really blew it.  Two penalties were really stupid by the Cards and the third shouldn't have been called.

I'm calling that Warner is going to retire.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on February 27, 2009, 09:36:05 AM
Since we don't have a 2009/10 thread yet.  The Redskins made a HUGE splash in free agency they just dropped $154 million for two players.  They're keeping DeAngelo Hall and they picked up Albert Haynesworth.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 27, 2009, 10:03:29 AM
Wasted money. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on February 27, 2009, 10:08:50 AM
Haynesworth will be good, but Hall....yea that's a waste of money.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on February 27, 2009, 10:38:10 AM
Haynesworth is a huge risk.  But at least they are addressing one of the lines....

Hall, meh, I'm fine with that.  It's risky too, in case he goes into freakout mode, but at least he performed here last season.  It's also his childhood team, for what that's worth.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on February 27, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
You think Haynesworth is a risk?  Why?  The only problem I see is him falling back onto his old ways of fighting if he doesn't have Jeff "Adolf" Fisher around.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on February 27, 2009, 11:14:16 AM
DeAngelo Hall was a nightmare when he was a Falcon.  It was like the Atlanta had it's own little T.O. for a little bit.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on February 27, 2009, 12:09:54 PM
Haynesworth is a risk because you're paying one person so much money.  I'd rather see them sign 3-5 linemen on both offensive and defensive line with all that money.  Injury...lack of performance...freak car accident...any little thing can sideline him.  It reminds me too much of the Deion Sanders-Jeff George-Dana Stubblefield-Danny-Snyder-buys-a-team-of-stars scenario.

And yes, Nubbins, I worry about that scenario with Hall.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 28, 2009, 12:13:11 PM
You dump all that money into Haynesworth and Hall, TWO PLAYERS, instead of spreading it around the O and D lines where it's desperately needed. Now if Hall pulls a Tom Brady in week 2 and Haynesworth pulls a Plaxico is Week 3, you're right back where you started from only about $137 million poorer.

Fucking draft well. That's why the Steelers and Patriots are ridiculously dominant.

Don;t get me wrong, Haynesworth is an awesome player, but if he gets injured where are you?

Hall I'm more torn about because Sean Springs was old and injury prone. That said, Hall didn't impress me all that much last season. (Okay that's not entirely true. He had a couple of amazing plays.) The other corner is Carlos Rogers who has dropped dozens of balls that could have been game changing interceptions.

Fire Dan Snyder.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Disco Dust on March 01, 2009, 04:17:31 PM
Cassell to KC is an interesting move. I thought he would be a Lion and not a Chief, and also that NE would get much more in return for him.

Under a younger Joe Gibbs the Redskins had just the perfect mix of hardworking overachievers (e.g. Kaufman, Coleman, Jordan, Jacoby...), and just enough studs (e.g. D. Green, Manley, Monk), but that has been missing ever since his first departure. Interesting to see if Haynesworth and any other high-priced additions for next season can bring about the right chemistry to the squad.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 03, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
So, I've been following the missing boaters/NFL players story with a morbid, horrified fascination. I really hope they find  those guys alive, but three days in the water man . . . . I don't know.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 03, 2009, 03:17:43 PM
Seriously... I can't believe they found one guy.  The only promising thing is that he said they all had life jackets on, so maybe they're still floating around out there somewhere... also, they're in shape... seems like maybe that would help them survive a bit longer than the average shmo.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 05, 2009, 10:48:44 AM
So this is pretty funny...

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/redskins_ask_albert?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 05, 2009, 11:16:59 AM
Nice.

T.O. has been let go by the Cowboys. You think the Falcons want him?
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 05, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Fuck... I sorta hope not.  I mean, I guess the guy has probably learned his lesson or whatever, but we were so much better than anyone expected last year that I'd hate to see that chemistry get fucked up by T.O. in any way.  My gut says we're better off without him.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 06, 2009, 10:36:02 AM
I am very thankful that the Redskins have spent all their money already...
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on March 06, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
Quote
Terrell Owens is still technically the property of the Dallas Cowboys, so it would be against league rules for other teams to go on record as saying they are or aren't interesting in acquiring his services (though that hasn't stopped the Redskins).

ProFootballTalk.com, though, is keeping a list of teams that have made it known to them through "league sources" that they have no interest in Owens. As of right now, that list includes:

The Dallas Cowboys.
The New York Giants.
The Washington Redskins.
The Baltimore Ravens.
The San Francisco 49ers.
The Minnesota Vikings.
The Atlanta Falcons.
The Cleveland Browns.
The San Diego Chargers.
The Philadelphia Eagles.
The New York Jets.
The Tennessee Titans.
The St. Louis Rams.
The New Orleans Saints.
The Houston Texans.
The Jacksonville Jaguars.

And the Eagles and Dolphins are listed as teams that are expected to join the list soon. Donovan McNabb and Bill Parcells are the president and vice president of the "Terrell Owens Deserves a Giant Wedgie Club."

But there are no real surprises there, except maybe a couple of mild ones. The Redskins are always worth mentioning whenever an expensive free agent is available, and the Vikings wanted T.J. Houshmandzadeh badly, but whiffed. I guess they're only in the market for sane receivers.

I am big Cowboys fan as well as the Ravens...but man am I glad he is gone.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 06, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
My Cowboys fan wife is also glad T.O. is gone.

Talk radio seems to think that Oakland is the likely place he ends up if he ends up anywhere. Lots of Titans talk too interestingly enough.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 06, 2009, 01:48:29 PM
Makes sense considering DeAngelo Hall played for Oakland last year.  That entire city has a high tolerance for assholes.  There's a reason the Hell's Angels operate out of there.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 06, 2009, 01:51:21 PM
I think he might be done in the NFL. He's 35 for one.

The other intersting tidbit I heard today? T.O. was second in the league with dropped passed last season. (33 dropped passes.)
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 06, 2009, 01:56:32 PM
Man... the guy's wasted his entire career being a self-righteous asshole.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 08, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
T.O. goes to the Bills!
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 09, 2009, 11:48:49 AM
Hahaha....oh man, welcome to your personal hell, TO.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 09, 2009, 12:07:44 PM
We were talking about this yesterday... someone told me he was quoted as saying, "I'm leaving America's team for North America's team."
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 09, 2009, 12:09:18 PM
Yeah, he really said that at his press conference where he was introduced as a Bill.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on March 13, 2009, 10:02:02 AM
HA HA Dan Snyder is kicking himself right now

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP)—Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has been indicted on two misdemeanor traffic charges after a crash that seriously injured another driver.

District Attorney Kim Helper of Williamson County said Thursday that Haynesworth was indicted Monday on charges of reckless driving and having expired registration.

Haynesworth, a former Tennessee Titan who signed with the Redskins last month, was released on $1,000 bond after surrendering Wednesday. Maximum punishment is six months in jail and a $500 fine on the reckless driving charge and 30 days in jail and a $50 fine for the other charge.

The charges come from a Dec. 13 incident in which Haynesworth tried to pass another driver, who crashed into a concrete median.

Chad Speck, Haynesworth’s agent, didn’t respond to an e-mail Thursday seeking comment. He said previously that his client pulled over after the accident, called police and did not leave until cleared by an officer.

Haynesworth is scheduled for arraignment March 30 in Williamson Circuit Court in Franklin, just south of Nashville. Helper would not speculate how long the case would be in the courts.

Since the accident, on Interstate 65 south of Nashville, Corey Edmondson has needed a hip replacement and is unable to move except with a walker or in a wheelchair, said his attorney, Jon Perry.

“I am not surprised at all by the indictment,” Perry said Thursday. “This accident could have very easily killed Corey.”

Haynesworth, an All-Pro, signed a $100 million, seven-year contract Feb. 27 with the Redskins just a few hours after the start of free agency.

With the Titans last season, he had a career-high 8 1/2 sacks. He has 24 sacks in seven NFL seasons since the Titans drafted him in the first round out of the University of Tennessee in 2002.

In 2006, he was suspended for five games for swiping his cleated foot over Dallas center Andre Gurode’s face. It was the league’s longest suspension for an on-field act.

Last year in another case, Haynesworth agreed to 30 days probation to divert a ticket for driving 103 mph in a 70 mph zone.

Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 13, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
HAHAHA!  Oh man... that is funny as shit.... sorry for all the Skins fans though... :(
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2009, 02:35:03 PM
Par for the course, Nubbins. Par for the fucking course.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 13, 2009, 02:37:43 PM
I will send you a Falcons hat.  You can root for my team if you want.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2009, 02:51:31 PM
I have a feeling it'll be a good year to be a Falcons fan.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Nubbins on March 13, 2009, 02:55:15 PM
Me too!  Probably the only thing this year will be good for, in fact.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: fajwat on March 14, 2009, 07:14:03 PM
HA HA Dan Snyder is kicking himself right now

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP)—Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has been indicted on two misdemeanor traffic charges after a crash that seriously injured another driver.
...
Last year in another case, Haynesworth agreed to 30 days probation to divert a ticket for driving 103 mph in a 70 mph zone.


Dunno how much the NFL cares about something like this, but I suppose they'll take their cues from the media, who'll take their cues from the courts and any special interest groups who make a ruckus.

I have not participated in any crashes or injuries, but I've been given reckless tickets before.  Legally, I would be surprised if he gets community service (or anything higher).
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Tatertots on March 15, 2009, 04:19:09 AM
Depends on whether he gets a judge who wants to make an example of him or not, I'd wager.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 16, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
If he plays his cards right, he probably gets a slap on the wrist from the legal system and a 1-game suspension from Roger.
Title: Re: Football 2008 - College & NFL
Post by: Sirharles on March 16, 2009, 01:05:22 PM
At least the Redskings don't have Donte Stallworth.....geez.

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Miami police have indicated that Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte’ Stallworth is expected to be charged as a result of the driving accident that killed a pedestrian early Saturday morning, two sources with knowledge of the investigation said.

Pending the outcome of the investigation, which includes results of a blood test for drugs or alcohol, the sources said driving under the influence, vehicular manslaughter and reckless driving were among the possible charges.


“The police seem pretty confident that they’re going to charge him,” a source with the NFL said. “ … Even if he [is] clean, I think the police feel he’s going to be charged with something, regardless.”


A detective source was also told that the police anticipated charging Stallworth, who was reportedly cooperative with police and distraught over Reyes’ death.


“I think it looks like to the police that Stallworth wasn’t being careful, at the very least,” the second source said.


Reyes was leaving his job as an overnight crane operator and trying to get to a bus stop on the southeast end of MacArthur Causeway. The causeway connects Miami Beach to downtown Miami. According to co-workers, Reyes, who left Cuba for Miami as a teenager, was on his way home.


NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league was “monitoring” the situation.


This is at least the second time that Stallworth, who signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns in 2008, has had a brush with the law in Miami, according to the Herald. Stallworth was arrested following a traffic stop in March of 2006. Charges were filed, but he was not prosecuted.