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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #600 on: January 14, 2019, 10:38:58 AM »

RE: Marauder... the whole movie definitely feels inconsistent... like, you know, they started with two other directors and then replaced them with Ron Howard.

I swear...it almost feel like they fired everyone, hired new guys, and didn't go back to fix ANYTHING that the previous team had written or filmed and failed to tell the new guys what had happened in the earlier footage beyond "It's about Han Solo!!"

What I loved about the Darth Maul misfire is that they were almost self-aware it was a misfire and, for us to realize what was happening, they had to do everything but have him turn to the camera and say "By the way, I'm Darth Maul, from the prequels. Remember?" 


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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #601 on: April 12, 2019, 02:44:56 PM »

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #602 on: April 16, 2019, 10:51:50 AM »
Oh shit! Was that Mr. Plinkett laughing at the end? Meta!

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #603 on: April 16, 2019, 03:50:34 PM »
Oh shit! Was that Mr. Plinkett laughing at the end? Meta!

https://youtu.be/gNTLC_uiGFA

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #604 on: April 17, 2019, 10:24:26 AM »
Nice.

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #605 on: May 08, 2019, 05:33:35 PM »
I haven't geeked out on anything as hard as I just geeked out on this. We can certainly a conversation about special editions and how Lucas' OST futzing have soiled the originals, but in the post-prequel/soft reboot world we live in, this fan edit seems like it fits in.

https://youtu.be/to2SMng4u1k

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #606 on: May 09, 2019, 10:14:55 AM »
It's pretty cool. We're starting to get to the point with these fan edits where they look amazing only on top-end TVs.

The SC77 (which is a generation before this one) works best on most normal TVs. So unless you have that Wall Street broker TV from 15 years in the future, look for SC77.

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #607 on: May 09, 2019, 12:02:34 PM »
What is this SC77 you speak of? Internet search come up with nothing.

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #608 on: May 10, 2019, 09:17:41 AM »
What is this SC77 you speak of? Internet search come up with nothing.

There are dozens of these fan edits.

http://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/page/Project-4K77

The best, in my opinion, is Harmy's Despecialized Edition 2.5: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V27-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713

That's the closest you can get to the movie we saw in theaters cleaned up to look good on normal TVs. No bells or whistles, just a nice, clean film. I think the 4k people are way overstepping and starting to verge into Lucas's own fan edit (haha).

So what the SC38 people are doing is trying to add in bells and whistles and whiz-bangs while keeping the main film intact, largely building on what 4k77 did. Of note, it's taken them two years just to redo that light saber battle, and that's all the progress they've made. And, on my screen, it looked pretty lame.

Generally, I'm against the adding of whiz-bangs. Clean up the film, make the lightsabers look better, make the ships look better, but have a controlled hand when it comes to adding special effects.

BTW -- fascinating argument here that stems from SC38 -- is the desire for more special effects the mindset that inspired Lucas to do what he did? Is there, actually, a demand from fandom for the special editions?


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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #609 on: November 17, 2019, 08:10:43 PM »
I've been rewatching the prequels in the lead up to Rise of Skywalker. They're fucking terrible.

In other news, water still wet.

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #610 on: November 27, 2019, 01:40:29 PM »
Did the Rogue One/Star Wars* back-to-back double feature for the first time a few nights ago. It does make Rogue One more enjoyable to see how well they tied it to what was going on in that first Star Wars movie. Though it also drives home how much it needs that first movie to exist to actually work on it's own merit. That said, I liked Felicity Jones' Jyn Erso much better this time around.

What was more interesting to me is how scotch-taped a movie the original Star Wars is, particularly when preceded by the super polished Disney(tm) production of Rogue One. Through this entire rewatch of the Star Wars movies, I feel like my eyes have really been opened to the reality of what they all are. Star Wars looks barely held together. Lucas always said it was the most expensive independent film ever made, and at least on this viewing, it looked it. (The stupid "special edition" additions only drive that point home.)

It wasn't bad, just weird. (There's so many shots of shit like landing gears, pilots climbing up, and other random inserts.) It actually really upped my admiration for it just in terms of the audacity of what Lucas did in the mid-70s.

Empire & Jedi are next which of course both hold the most emotional weight for me. I have a weird dread about Episode IX/Rise of Skywalker, though not from a storytelling point of view. (I don't think smoothly trying to wrap up the whole saga can be anything but passable and unoffensive.) I just feel like it's going to be impossible to avoid spoilers so I'll have to rush out and see it immediately or else stay off the internet for days. It just feels like Star Wars is fine these days as long as I just enjoy it privately in my own bubble.

(*Yes, yes, A New Hope. It's fucking just Star Wars. It'll always just be Star Wars.)
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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #611 on: December 01, 2019, 11:56:25 AM »
I think even the "independent film" aspect of A New Hope still holds up. There's stuff done there that was never done before, even if it is technically troubled at times. And , of course, doing "something that's never been done before" was really as simple as slowing down and focusing on making the characters slightly more complicated than the genre usually demanded (for example, other 70's cinematic sci-fi that's slower, better paced,and character-driven tend to be more-or-less considered "horror" or "thriller" crossovers). ANH is this sort of transition period in big screen sci-fi. Which, by the way, had been well-established already on small screen sci-fi. Another thing I find interesting -- did Lucas, perhaps, just bring the small screen genre ideals to the larger space operahouse?

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #612 on: December 01, 2019, 05:18:53 PM »
I'm really fond of showing my film students "firsts;" first modern camera effects (Citizen Kane), first ensemble piece (Stagecoach), first modern coming of age comedy (American Graffiti), first slasher film (Halloween), and so on. They're always like, "This is boring. It was done better in INSERT MARVEL MOVIE." I'm willing to bet these students will feel the same way about the original Star Wars. (The number of them that haven't actually seen it used to be shocking, but now I'm used to it.)

But the future of big screen sci-fi (which is now making it's final laps?) is all there in that first Star Wars. It's  a transition in story editing more than anything else, probably because Lucas had to cobble something together out of the insanity and half shot sequenced he had filmed.

RE: Small screen ideals to the big screen. I find it ironic that we find ourselves in a paradigm shift where the opposite in now happening. They big budget visuals are now being created for episodic "television."

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #613 on: December 02, 2019, 11:37:56 AM »

RE: Small screen ideals to the big screen. I find it ironic that we find ourselves in a paradigm shift where the opposite in now happening. They big budget visuals are now being created for episodic "television."

Oh, it was inevitable the moment HBO opened its doors. The TV industry has worked very hard to keep you at home, on the couch, subscribing to their content and supporting their advertisers since the 50's. And, as they've steadily won that battle, and capitalized on it, it's a cinch to get big stars and big budgets on small screens. Nothing ironic about it. Carefully developed, nurtured, and planned out.

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Re: General Star Wars Thread
« Reply #614 on: December 02, 2019, 12:59:57 PM »
And with Amazon we don't even have to leave the house to buy their shit!