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Civilization? Who needs it!
Tyson:
--- Quote from: nacho ---The problem is that we're not equipped to handle this...and, well, why not? We spent 50 years ready for global war, and the last four years constantly screaming about dirty bombs and terrorist events even larger than 9/11. So nuke a city and we crumble from the inside out in a matter of days.
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Don't tell me you think all this Patriot Act and security and all that is actually making us safer? We're all still a bunch of scared little kittens running around and waving plastic flags in front of the business ends of shotguns. You can't secure a country through legislation.
Terrorists are people who use fear as their main weapon. As long as people run around shitting their pants and buying pointless safety crap and not flying because someone with a Middle Eastern-sounding name is in the airport, the terrorists are winning. They won the minute the government started passing laws without reading them.
Patriot Act? Terrorists - 1, The U.S. - 0.
Whatever happened the old fashioned American-tough attitude? "What? You took down the WTC and put a hole in the Pentagon? Fine! We'll build the WTC right back up and then make the Pentagon twice as big, fuckers! Eat ass-hair!"
Instead it's all this "OMG I AM SO SAD HUGS AND KISSES 4 EVA LOVE HUGS TEARS!!!!111!!! Letz go buy plastik flags and cry in front of a graveyard becky becuz this is jsut so SAD *sob sob sob* I am so scared! I'm not flying on a plane any more bekuz there's terrists on them and i don't want to die! OH GOD - PARYER LOVES 4 EVA"
(P.S. I flew on a plane a week after the airports opened up and it ruled. A 737. Four passengers. Four! Sacramento to Phoenix! Schwing!)
Also, 9/11 was a a couple of buildings. Katrina was an entire region and a major US city. 9/11 didn't throw the entire city into a wasteland. Katrina did. An entire region, gone. *poof*
Don't get me wrong - they're both horrible tragedies. I just think New Orleans is much much worse. It was, yes, entirely preventable. Guess why their attempts to reinforce/rebuild/repair the levees never materialized? Money! Guess where the levee reinforce/rebuild/repair funds went! A free Snickers to the first correct answer!
Tyson:
--- Quote from: monkey! ---Blow up New Orleans!
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Uhh, Katrina beat you to the punch, man.
nacho:
I'm not thinking in terms of safety, Tyson. This was a natural disaster. What's the Patriot Act have to do with anything?
I'm thinking that the government should be prepared to handle this. We had plans in place to deal with nuclear war, man. Fallout shelters and CD food/water everywhere. When I was in school, I had to learn where the closest shelters were. We did duck and cover during the air raid tests on Wednesdays. Remember the original Dawn of the Dead, they hid out in a CD supplies dump. We had that same thing in our three major shopping malls as well.
What happened to all that? We're still juggling refugees with no sense of authority or organization. When did we drop our local and federal plans for coordinated response and turn into this Mickey Mouse show?
9/11 was a while ago, let's get that out of our systems, okay? Enough is enough. I just brought it up as a comparison because the people caught up in that didn't take advantage of it and freak out. Though, yes, it was on a smaller scale. So perhaps that's why.
Nubbins:
--- Quote from: nacho ---So compare to 9/11, which saw a calm and unmonitored exodus. It's all about tax brackets, huh? Live in a poor city, you get shot in the back in the first three hours after a disaster. Live in a well to do area and people calmly walk home.
It's not just the freaks in the city, it's in the Superdome (where the above gang rapes occurred) and, now, news trickling in from the Astrodome...and everywhere else. The refugees are going nuts in the face of continued disorganization.
The problem is that we're not equipped to handle this...and, well, why not? We spent 50 years ready for global war, and the last four years constantly screaming about dirty bombs and terrorist events even larger than 9/11. So nuke a city and we crumble from the inside out in a matter of days.
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It's easy... the answer to how people could do something like gang rape a five year old is simple. Because they could.
I still say you can't compare this to 9/11. 9/11 was disastrous, but at no point did the chain of authority or command completely break down. It's not like every police and fire station within 20 miles of the WTC were destroyed and that whole area was inaccessible for 5 days. We were on the WTC rubble THAT NIGHT... so in a sense, it was a lot more under control than this.
This is sheer Lord of the Flies type shit. It has nothing to do with race or social background... it is madness. It's mankind trapped in a corner with no one around to see or hear the things it does. No rules. No regulations. NO CONSEQUENCES. This is what we are people... we're animals covered in a thin layer of clothing and 200 year old laws that make us feel smarter than the rest of the animals. Back any city in this nation or in the world for that matter into a similar corner as New Orleans and you'll get more of the same.
My step dad was eager to point a finger at the black people, but if a 9.0 earthquake leveled Beverly Hills and made it impassable to authorities and aide for 5 days... the exact same shit would be happening. People would loot Saks Fifth instead of Wal Mart... but they'd loot, they'd rape and they'd kill... just because they could.
nacho:
Okay, yes, it's no 9/11. But where was the authority at the Superdome? Those gang rapes and killings in the article weren't happening in the city, they were happening at the Dome where the authorities did have access and a presence.
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