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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2005, 02:00:28 PM »
Oh my god. New Orleans is underwater and our nation's leader is... Playing Country rock star:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050830/480/capm10208301856

Somebody tell me today is April 1st. Lord.

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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2005, 02:04:54 PM »
Don't worry, he'll be back at 4pm today to discuss what needs to be done.  Give it four days or so and the survivors down there without water or medical attention will have all the manpower they need to pluck them out of 20 foot floodwaters.

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« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2005, 02:10:24 PM »
Suddenly I can't tell if you're being serious or ironic...

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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2005, 02:42:20 PM »
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Black people are lazy and will continue to play the part of 'victim' forever.  Here's one even better... I bet some of those people stayed behind just so they could loot.  You don't see them looting food and water, not when they can grab a 32" tv.  They really make me sick.


Oh come on... you don't REALLY believe this do you?  You're just saying this for the shock factor.

If I was back making $14k a year, had no means of transportation and had been inundated with CNN Stormfest after CNN Stormfest time after time again, I'd have stuck around too.  The only reason anyone stayed is because they couldn't possibly imagine how bad things would get.  

Here's one even better... I bet that if I'd been stuck in NOLA and I was wandering around empty streets and found myself in front of an electronics store with shattered windows and 40 PSP's inside surrounded by video games, I'd grab two or three and as many games as I could.  Furthermore, I could find any number of ways to rationalize it:  

Water's going to ruin it eventually anyway, so why not?  

I'll come back and pay for it once everything gets cleaned up.  

These last couple days have been so stressful, I need something to take my mind off the disaster.  

I've already lost everything and the government's going to fuck me out of compensation, so I deserve this.  

Etc., etc., etc.  It would be too tempting not to take something like that when it's staring you in the face, I don't care how hungry I am.  I could be bleeding from 20 different places and a scene like that would give me pause.  Race has nothing to do with it, man.  It's base fucking instinct.


This is the entire problem.  Why in the fuck is this kind of attitude rationalized and accepted by our society.  No, no, no, no no.  You didn't motherfucking earn it.  It doesn't belong to you.  YOU DO NOT DESERVE IT YOU STUPID LAZY COCKSUCKER!  Fucking entitlement mentality is what's ruining this country.

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« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2005, 02:48:23 PM »
Unless I'm missing something, Nubbins isn't saying he's *entitled* to grab the PSPs and food like it's a god-given right. He's saying that he's going to get fucked anyways, so he might as well get his worth for it.

Or was that just a red herring? And is this country actually being ruined? Huh?

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« Reply #80 on: August 31, 2005, 02:53:01 PM »
Plus, Nubbins, you and I look at the Stormfest and roll our eyes, but NOLA is in a hotspot.  Also, when you evacuate a million people and activate the National Guard, that's a big clue that you should stop rolling your eyes and head for high ground.

I wouldn't have stuck around and I'm a firm believer that nothing exciting will ever happen again.    

I'd loot if I had half the chance.  But no need to rationalize -- I'd do it simply to break the law.

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« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2005, 02:55:25 PM »
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Calling on the reserves to fill in where Gulf oil is failing is a big step, yeah.  But I just don't see depression.  NYC was our financial HQ and 9/11 only resulted in a blip on the radar.  Even then, when we cried recession, the Repubs said nope.  I don't see where losing NOLA will do any greater damage on money than 9/11.  Oil's a big worry, and those platforms are easier to replace than pumping out the city.

Will losing one American city really spiral us into something terrible?  I wouldn't rank it as a top tier city, either, in terms of importance to the country's well-being.


9/11 was nothing compared to this.  It was a building.  This is an entire city.  Fuck, it's an entire region.  Ruined.  Gone.  It's not worth it to rebuild but if it's not rebuilt it's going to cause a lot of problems.  Our rail system in this country is a joke.  How do you think all the midwest states move their exports?  Most go down the Ohio to the Mississippi.  Now there is no where for it to go.

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« Reply #82 on: August 31, 2005, 02:59:01 PM »
So what do you predict, Yotoc?  Give us a breakdown and a timeline.  At what point can I loot Best Buy and at what point can I shoot some of the people on The List.

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« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2005, 02:59:19 PM »
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Unless I'm missing something, Nubbins isn't saying he's *entitled* to grab the PSPs and food like it's a god-given right. He's saying that he's going to get fucked anyways, so he might as well get his worth for it.

Or was that just a red herring? And is this country actually being ruined? Huh?


It still doesn't make it right.  They're going to get fucked anyways so lets just shoot this cop in the head.

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« Reply #84 on: August 31, 2005, 03:00:47 PM »
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So what do you predict, Yotoc?  Give us a breakdown and a timeline.  At what point can I loot Best Buy and at what point can I shoot some of the people on The List.


It all depends on Anwar, dude.

Honestly?  I think we stand a good chance of everything going to shit by spring.  The fact that they're not really talking about it anywhere on what they're thinking about doing that scares me.  Yes, I know that finding survivors and rescuing them is important but there is a bigger picture here.  You Dems will laugh when I call trickle-down economics in but there is a valid point to it.

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« Reply #85 on: August 31, 2005, 03:04:48 PM »
So: My house is underwater, I'm wearing the clothes I put on a week ago, I have, like, $10 in my pocket, I'm hungry, and I could use a goddamn drink. So I'm supposed to walk past an underwater grocery store because it just wouldn't be right to take food and shit that's going to be foul in a week anyways?

Not me. I'd be eating that Wonderbread by the loaf, man. Drop me a Mickey and piss it out in the middle of the interstate.

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« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2005, 03:09:40 PM »
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So: My house is underwater, I'm wearing the clothes I put on a week ago, I have, like, $10 in my pocket, I'm hungry, and I could use a goddamn drink. So I'm supposed to walk past an underwater grocery store because it just wouldn't be right to take food and shit that's going to be foul in a week anyways?

Not me. I'd be eating that Wonderbread by the loaf, man. Drop me a Mickey and piss it out in the middle of the interstate.


This is what slays me.  Where did I say anything about taking food?  Hell, there are laws on the books about taking food in emergencies like this.  It's all good.  I'm talking about the ones carrying the giant televisions and assorted electronics out.  How exactly are they supposed to survive with 30 dvd players?

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« Reply #87 on: August 31, 2005, 03:14:30 PM »
It's like those post-apocalyptic movies man. Waterworld. Where dirt is like gold! How cool would this be:

"Hey, hey. I got a 2005 Sony DVD player."

"The messiah! All hail!"

*worship*

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« Reply #88 on: August 31, 2005, 03:20:14 PM »
I want to know what happens when the shit hits the fan.  Is it possible to have another serious Depression?  What are we talking about?

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« Reply #89 on: August 31, 2005, 03:25:26 PM »
I would say a serious depression.  Thank god our economy is as good as it is right now.  If this happened ten years ago...