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nacho:

--- Quote ---my character is from the west and this whole project started out as a riff on the earlier Crusades
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Also worth noting that the "Holy Roman Empire" is actually just central Europe (today's Germany, Austria, etc. and northern Italy) and was not an organized political entity that fought in the Crusades or maintained an army.

By the time Constantinople fell, the "Holy Roman Empire" was basically "Germany."


--- Quote ---I've been both excited and a little unnerved that people haven't tried to make movies about this era. However, I think that has a lot to do with Western bias. At least as far as my research goes, the Ottomans come off as far more organized and tolerant in this era...
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Very much a western bias. It's both ancient political (the Romans in Constantinople were constantly trying to re-conquer the west) and religious (the Great Schism continues to be a problem in church politics).

As for the Ottomans... It's probably simplest to say that the Islamic sphere was having a glorious renaissance during the Christian sphere's dark ages and, when the Christian sphere began its glorious renaissance, the Islamic sphere started its dark ages.

The reasons for this are the usual -- war, famine, pestilence, political division, etc.

RottingCorpse:

--- Quote from: nacho on March 11, 2021, 09:32:10 AM ---
--- Quote ---my character is from the west and this whole project started out as a riff on the earlier Crusades
--- End quote ---

Also worth noting that the "Holy Roman Empire" is actually just central Europe (today's Germany, Austria, etc. and northern Italy) and was not an organized political entity that fought in the Crusades or maintained an army.

By the time Constantinople fell, the "Holy Roman Empire" was basically "Germany."

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As far as my latest outline goes, I'm very much in Eastern Europe. The 1444 Battle of Varna where the Byzantine's got a royal ass-whooping seems to figure largely into the eventual 1453 ka-blammo siege. It also ties vaguely into a late crusade and also gives me an excuse to fuck around with Prague and Romania.

The western bias is kind of a shame, because it's a fucking fascinating era.

nacho:
Correct on all points!

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