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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2022, 02:36:55 PM »
The lack of trust for my fellow humans is strong with me as well. In fact, I'm downright afraid half the time. We've had three murders here in Bethesda in the last month (there hasn't been a murder here since I was a kid). I've been attacked in the street both physically and with people swerving their cars at me five times in the last eight months. I feel more ill at ease when someone starts following me closely here than I do in New Orleans, where shit is definitely sliding into a third world situation.

Jesus Christ... do you guys have any plans to get out? I have a couple friends in metro areas (one in NYC) and they've at least thrown around the idea of picking up and moving. My other friend in rural OH has a farm he's been trying to work with his wife the last 4 or 5 years, but they're ready to give up. Between the opioid crisis that has junkies shitting in their gravel driveway, New Richmond white supremacists, and general Ohio shittery, they're ready to cut their losses and head to the upper peninsula of Michigan and live as far away from people as possible.

Although we settled into a much larger metro area on the outskirts of ATL than we were in Cincinnati, I feel like we're far enough out in suburbia that we haven't seen any real significant shortages of anything. The grocery stores were bare last week because of "snow", but places like Costco had thousands of pounds of rice, pallets of water, TP, paper towels... no shortages whatsoever.

I told my wife I'm probably going to be setting up some of our shelving again soon so we can start to stock more dry goods, etc. I feel like this Russia shit / November could mean dark fuckin days ahead in the relatively near future. 
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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2022, 07:43:28 PM »
Yes, we're planning to go rural in 2-3 years.

An interesting book is Four Lost Cities, which is actually about the death of urban cultures in prehistoric times. Scientists are piecing together this fascinating pendulum of how the Human race has glommed together into big cities and then simply walked away (for a variety of reasons, from dramatic and horrible to just gradual "I'm over it") for most of out history. The author (and many other scholars) have been talking about how we're in a "de-urbanization" phase right now after an ultra-urbanization swing. All this thanks to increasing violence and the pandemic.

Bugging out to the country was on our minds before the pandemic, but now it's starting to feel like a priority as the supply chain collapses and we see now almost daily incidents. We just had twelve police cars on our street today dealing with some sort of vague "Go back inside, sir" situation. And DC had those cop murders that are going on in every major city now. Which just makes the cops go crazy on everyone...

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2022, 09:25:19 AM »
Wait...

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I feel like this Russia shit / November could mean dark fuckin days ahead in the relatively near future.

What do you mean by November?

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2022, 10:32:46 AM »
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I feel like this Russia shit / November could mean dark fuckin days ahead in the relatively near future.

What do you mean by November?

Just mid-term election shit. Maybe it's because I live in GA now and all the libs are going nuts over the new voting regulations and every vehicle is a truck with a Punisher sticker on the back, but I feel like these elections could be hyped enough that we may want to stay indoors for a few days/weeks afterward. Of course, I thought that about the 2020 election and everything stayed pretty chill, so what do I know.

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2022, 01:18:29 PM »
RE: Rural bug-out...

Team RC left DC after Trump was elected, not specifically related to that, but all the agency (FBI/CDC/Army) work I had been doing dried up because Trump was at odds with those people. I was sitting in a studio 12 hours a day recording educational videos. Great people to work with, but highly uninspired. The WV job fell in my lap when the Missus and I had already been talking about the next place. (L.A. and Austin were top of the list.) About a year in we started to have some buyers remorse. Then the pandemic happened and we couldn't have been happier to have made the move.

In a place like where we live, scarcity is something of the norm. The pre-COVID supply chain status quo was one where people serviced in this area were massive hoarders anyway, because they were one bad storm away from an Overlook Hotel situation. Our supply issues have been more about luxuries. (Pie crusts... The grocery store hasn't had pie crusts for months.) Or all the other in-demand shit; toilet paper, rubber gloves, etc. A collapse here would still be a major collapse, but it feels like a less steep drop than, say, Bethesda.

Again, it's hard to imagine a Walking Dead situation. That illusion of normalcy will continue.

RE: November fears... I also wonder how emboldened the Punisher sticker crowd becomes. In 2020, we had those ridiculous Trump caravans with 20+ trucks waving Trump and Blue Lives Matter flags that would loudly roll into town, and it was fucking scary. There's active KKK here who have shown up to small BLM and Pride events that have been held. The ISIS/al Qaeda comparisons are apt because it feels like Lord Humugous and his cronies rolling in to let the plebes know who really needs all the guzzoline.

The idea that just because my wife still has a Hillary16 sticker on her car means we're going to get run out of town seems ludicrous, but maybe not completely out of the realm of reality. Again, I'm not saying a MAGA posse runs us out, but broken windows, denial of goods and services, and just general harassment making it unpalatable to live here? Seems a little more plausible than it once did for sure.
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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2022, 02:27:02 PM »
Glad you guys were able to escape. I feel you on the "out of the frying pan, into the fire" feelings about moving from urban into rural, though. You give up the hip, clustered living of a city for a rural existence that feels more manageable and the tradeoff is that you're living with militias and white supremacists doing their thing in your backyard. 

It's just crazy to me how 10 years ago, urban walkability with barcades and microbreweries on every corner was the wave of the gentrified future. Now you couldn't pay me to stuff myself into a packed IPA release at my favorite brewery, even for free drinks. Just a complete realignment of priorities, at least for me... on almost every level.

We're likely in this house forever, or at least that's what I keep telling my wife. I never want to move again if I can help it. Ever. We have a lake, over half an acre, plenty of sun, lots of room. Only way I'd consider moving is if it was further out into the middle of nowhere.
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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2022, 03:25:45 PM »
We haven't told RC this but we mocked and mocked his WVA move and took bets on his demise.

And then, yes. The pandemic hit. And by the end of 2020 we thought... Fucking RC was fucking right! And then we started mapping out back routes to get to him as DC burned.

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2022, 03:44:32 PM »
We haven't told RC this but we mocked and mocked his WVA move and took bets on his demise.

I can count the people who *didn't* mock our WV move on one hand. I had more than one concerned "What the fuck is the matter?" conversation. In the end though, we looked like god damned Cassandras. ("Looked" being the operative word.)

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2022, 03:47:59 PM »
We figured you just had a full on nervous breakdown. So you should probably own this and not suggest that we were right! Fortuna favored you.

This time... Now, when you move to that former NIKE silo in North Dakota...

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2022, 03:52:45 PM »
At this point, someone could tell me they were building a carboard rocket and preparing to bug out to the moon and I'd be like, "Hang on honey... let's hear them out."
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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2022, 03:54:16 PM »
At this point, someone could tell me they were building a carboard rocket and preparing to bug out to the moon and I'd be like, "Hang on honey... let's hear them out."

We're totally in the armed compound outside Santa Fe train. Maybe throw in some sex Jesus cult comet apocalypse stuff.

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2022, 06:58:03 PM »
I don't even know what thread to put shit in anymore.

I've been reading about that Couer d'Alene, Idaho story where the 31 members of "Patriot Front" were apparently ready to crack a bunch of heads at a Pride parade. Apparently, they were one hotel clerk away from making some dark shit happen. Eventually, shots are going to be fired.

It feels like it's only a matter of time before one of these things goes off. There have been all these near misses since January 6, 2021. Feels like one will slip through and then these people will be empowered, and it'll be like mass shootings. Just riots and right v left street fighting all the time. Living in the heart of Trump country doesn't give me hope that there's more rational minded people out there than right wing sovereign citizens ready to tear the whole thing down to "own the libs."

Scary shit all over.

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Re: Four Seasons Total Landscaping
« Reply #72 on: June 14, 2022, 09:56:30 AM »
I don't even know what thread to put shit in anymore.

I've been reading about that Couer d'Alene, Idaho story where the 31 members of "Patriot Front" were apparently ready to crack a bunch of heads at a Pride parade. Apparently, they were one hotel clerk away from making some dark shit happen. Eventually, shots are going to be fired.

It feels like it's only a matter of time before one of these things goes off. There have been all these near misses since January 6, 2021. Feels like one will slip through and then these people will be empowered, and it'll be like mass shootings. Just riots and right v left street fighting all the time. Living in the heart of Trump country doesn't give me hope that there's more rational minded people out there than right wing sovereign citizens ready to tear the whole thing down to "own the libs."

Scary shit all over.

This has become the theme of EVERY Star Trek spin-off. The NuTrek premise is that the 21st century collapse starts with "the second civil war" (here every spin off has been glad to recycle January 6th and BLM footage) which then led to KHHHAAANNNNN!!!! which then led to World War III and the apocalypse.

The thing is... It really does feel like that. And, to be honest, it's felt like that ever since the day after 9/11 when there were tanks on the street corners in DC and we never quite looked back at what the world was before someone finally punched us and we decided to start a Forever War with the world and ourselves.

Hell, to be honest, it all started with our reaction to AIDS and the Iran-Contra deal to dump drugs into minority communities.

Hell, to be honest, it all started when we gunned down protestors in Ohio.

Hell, to be honest...

Anyway, yes, this time around it's the sort of tension that's well-armed and not easily calmed. The Complex took care of the 60s revolution by simply homogenizing it, breaking it apart from the inside, and then selling it to the highest bidder. That revolution had every single fang removed and ended up sellng disco, sneakers, and then cell phones.

But that revolution came from the left. This one is coming from the right. And they aren't free love and dope, are they? They're AR-15s and a strange level of fear and hatred that has been quietly bred into us since 9/11. We've spent the last generation under attack or being the attacker on so many insidious under the skin levels. It's gotten to the point where I can understand how a truly broken mind and lost soul not only became so wounded and broken but can also see how an automatic weapon aimed at children may make more sense because at least it's the only honest thing in a world that's really become devoted to misinformation, half-truths, diversions, and hyper-medicated alternative realities.

What rattles my cage is the outrage. We're so fucking stupid aren't we? We're mad a bunch of kids got shot up and we demand that the gun laws change. That's like yelling at the rabbit for being eaten by the fox. The gun lobby is the problem. As long as there are people in Congress taking money from the gun lobby nothing will change. We should be protesting lobby groups-- guns, cars, gas. We should be outside their buildings throwing rocks through their windows. And we should be voting out the mentally unfit greedmonsters taking that money.

RC, your point about being in Trump's America is something that really confuses me. I struggle to wrap my head around the political polarization. I know it's fed by the media and the politicians themselves because all of that has morphed into entertainment... But when a classroom full of third graders gets annihilated... Does it mater anymore? And how does that not turn the entire state instantly blue? I'm baffled at the lack of constructive outrage. Because, at this point, we all should be out there burning every fucking thing to the ground until change actually, really does happen.

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