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Resistance Roundup!
« on: January 25, 2017, 11:20:52 AM »
The National Park Service just created a "Resistance Account" on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AltNatParkSer

And with RC's post today (http://greatsociety.org/welcome-to-the-resistance/), I figured it's time for a new and less depressing thread!

We have a Donald Trump as POTUS thread (http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,5274.0.html) that I say we keep alive with news on Trump's rise and, hopefully, fall and other bullshit. So let's make this thread all about how we can fight back...and also charting the movements and successes of resistance fighters around the country.

And, now, a message for our brothers and sisters in DC: The chair is against the wall. Repeat. The chair is against the wall.

« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 11:34:29 AM by nacho »

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 11:38:44 AM »
Yes!

Though I tried to watch Adam Curtis' 'HyperNormalisation' and nearly had a panic attack 12 minutes in. I'm going to wait until I have a few drinks in me to keep my nerves calm.

Link to the whole thing here:
https://archive.org/details/HyperNormalisation

And you saw the Greenpeacers hanging a "resist" sign at 15th & L right? Easily seen from the White House.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/dc/protesters-climb-crane-in-northwest-dc/392413898


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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 11:42:31 AM »
And you saw the Greenpeacers hanging a "resist" sign at 15th & L right? Easily seen from the White House.

Sure did! Warmed my heart. Let's hope that keeps happening more and more, day after day.

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2017, 08:21:18 AM »
Things like this are alarming. More fodder for your article, RC.

RC -- how's this for mobilizing your writing project? Why not recap Trump's madness and actions from the "resistance" POV every Monday or Tuesday?



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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2017, 09:54:47 AM »
The alt-account revolution continues:

https://twitter.com/altUSEPA

Meanwhile, the AltNPS is now run by an anonymous team who say they aren't government employees. Neither the real NPS or the AltNPS have provided a comment to reporters.

Following along are Alt accounts for NASA, NOAA, and others.

The problem: Spoof Alt accounts have also started to crop up. The ALT HHS, for example, states that they're a "parody" account." AltNASA is in doubt because they don't use the same disclaimer language as ALTNPS and others ("Not taxpayer subsidized").



 

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 11:21:07 AM »
The ALT accounts illustrate the growing Adam Curtis problem. How are we supposed to know whats real?

RE: Writing... This is not the thread to go into my writing woes, but I need to be more succinct.

In terms of resistance, most of my actual non-writing resistance work is going to be locally (and anti-fascist) focused. I also think it needs to be more than just a recap, right? My biggest complaint about FB activism previous to the recent spate (which got edited out of my big gonzo piece) is that there aren't many calls to actions. It's been more of an "OMG! See what they did now?!" (Though that's changed a bit since the inauguration protests.)

The flip side of course is having all these disparate groups with all these different agendas. For example, the intersectional people are going at the throats of the Women's March folks for it's focus on white women and not people of color. The trans community is doing the same, attacking white women *and* the "poser" intersectional people. It's bickering, and it distracts while Trump signs anti-refugee executive orders. Again, coalitions. How does the larger "we" Rogue One this shit and get everyone to support the larger rebellion?

I have a Prague/AU friend who's hyper-focused on the amount and type of executive actions, comparing them with presidents past al the way back to Coolidge. Maybe I can talk to her later as she compiles data, and post a piece about that. (Right now he's on pace to beat out the amount of EOs Obama signed during all eight years of his presidency the first 100 days.)

I'm rambling. I guess if we're going to write a bunch of pro-resistance shit. (And we should.) We should figure out what's most needed.
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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 12:26:53 PM »
The splintered, factional nature of protest groups is an old problem. It's what lost us the battle in the 60s. It's what usually loses the battle for justice, in fact, and occasionally has dire consequences that impact the world for generations (See: The assassination of Caesar, the rise of Mussolini and Hitler and the aborted attempts to oust them, the French Revolution, and, hey, even the death of Jesus!).

The problem, of course, is that "freedom" and "justice" and "revolution" are, almost by definition, wildly varied. I always think of the "Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" idea. i.e.: "Just keep doing whatever the fuck you're doing as long as you don't kill babies and keep paying your taxes." (Actually a surprisingly progressive approach for a nation founded by puritanical, racist misfits.)

While, yes, that puritanical, racist misfit-ism certainly ruled the day according to the eventual letter of America's laws, the spirit is still creeping around in the background.

Iain Banks always said "the more you control the more you have to control," as in authoritarianism rules supreme and with an iron fist (and will eventually blow itself out).

It's a great concept to explain why the Right is always (and always temporally) so successful. It's very easy to be an authoritarian. It's also very easy to follow one. In fact, we crave it. Even if we dress them up in liberal clothing, we're still hoping to be told what to do.

Which further complicates the splintered left.

Now...the solution? Well, I'm of the camp that believes there is no solution, or else we would have found it by now after an eon where we've seen the rise and fall of countless authoritarian fucks.

I've long argued that change has to come from below -- the local elections, having a better control over our education system, etc. It's a generational shift. We need to encourage a love of history in our children and teach them the unadulterated version of history. We need to awaken the liberal arts half of our minds as well as the scientific halves. We want our children to ask questions, to analyze, to weigh their actions and decisions. We can't fight the 40-something racist in Dead Indian Bend, IA. We can't fight the 60-something Pentecostal madman in PA. These are people who have drunk from the chalice and bought the new reality. They are legion.

But what of the 12 year old who sees Humanity's long history of scandal, war, horror, and victory, glory, and inventiveness of the entire species play out in front of them?


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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 01:11:08 PM »

I've long argued that change has to come from below -- the local elections, having a better control over our education system, etc. It's a generational shift. We need to encourage a love of history in our children and teach them the unadulterated version of history. We need to awaken the liberal arts half of our minds as well as the scientific halves. We want our children to ask questions, to analyze, to weigh their actions and decisions. We can't fight the 40-something racist in Dead Indian Bend, IA. We can't fight the 60-something Pentecostal madman in PA. These are people who have drunk from the chalice and bought the new reality. They are legion.

But what of the 12 year old who sees Humanity's long history of scandal, war, horror, and victory, glory, and inventiveness of the entire species play out in front of them?



This is the type of front page "resistance" piece you should write.

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 01:12:36 PM »
The alt-account revolution continues:

https://twitter.com/altUSEPA

Meanwhile, the AltNPS is now run by an anonymous team who say they aren't government employees. Neither the real NPS or the AltNPS have provided a comment to reporters.

Following along are Alt accounts for NASA, NOAA, and others.

The problem: Spoof Alt accounts have also started to crop up. The ALT HHS, for example, states that they're a "parody" account." AltNASA is in doubt because they don't use the same disclaimer language as ALTNPS and others ("Not taxpayer subsidized").



 

Here's a list:

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For those of you on twitter, government accounts that are on gag order went rogue.
They are now posting their factual, scientific tweets under new, non government controlled names:
Posted by a friend, thought you may want to follow them too.
Alternative NIH - @Alt_NIH
Alt HHS - @AltHHS
Alternative CDC - @Alt_CDC
AltUSForestService - @AltForestServ
AltFDA - @alt_fda
altEPA - @altUSEPA
AltUSDA - @altusda
AltUSNatParkService - @AltNatParkSer
Rogue NASA - @RogueNASA

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 01:16:07 PM »

I've long argued that change has to come from below -- the local elections, having a better control over our education system, etc. It's a generational shift. We need to encourage a love of history in our children and teach them the unadulterated version of history. We need to awaken the liberal arts half of our minds as well as the scientific halves. We want our children to ask questions, to analyze, to weigh their actions and decisions. We can't fight the 40-something racist in Dead Indian Bend, IA. We can't fight the 60-something Pentecostal madman in PA. These are people who have drunk from the chalice and bought the new reality. They are legion.

But what of the 12 year old who sees Humanity's long history of scandal, war, horror, and victory, glory, and inventiveness of the entire species play out in front of them?



This is the type of front page "resistance" piece you should write.

I sort of have been, in one way or another, for the last 16 years.

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2017, 01:17:23 PM »
The alt-account revolution continues:

https://twitter.com/altUSEPA

Meanwhile, the AltNPS is now run by an anonymous team who say they aren't government employees. Neither the real NPS or the AltNPS have provided a comment to reporters.

Following along are Alt accounts for NASA, NOAA, and others.

The problem: Spoof Alt accounts have also started to crop up. The ALT HHS, for example, states that they're a "parody" account." AltNASA is in doubt because they don't use the same disclaimer language as ALTNPS and others ("Not taxpayer subsidized").



 

Here's a list:

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For those of you on twitter, government accounts that are on gag order went rogue.
They are now posting their factual, scientific tweets under new, non government controlled names:
Posted by a friend, thought you may want to follow them too.
Alternative NIH - @Alt_NIH
Alt HHS - @AltHHS
Alternative CDC - @Alt_CDC
AltUSForestService - @AltForestServ
AltFDA - @alt_fda
altEPA - @altUSEPA
AltUSDA - @altusda
AltUSNatParkService - @AltNatParkSer
Rogue NASA - @RogueNASA

This includes several spoof accounts (e.g. Alt HHS, which I mentioned in my original post.)

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2017, 01:46:41 PM »
FYI: History article programmed for tomorrow!

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2017, 03:48:21 PM »
Sweet!

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Re: Resistance Roundup!
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Enjoy, faggots!
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Re: Resistance Roundup!
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Monkey's back!