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Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« on: April 16, 2015, 11:29:46 AM »
I'm sick of having a Richard Lewis style mental breakdown every time I go to post BvS news. "Do I put it in the Superman thread? Or do I put it in the Batman thread?"

I started a new thread... and all I'm posting is a teaser of a teaser.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 09:20:40 AM »
Well, the trailer leaked...if you can keep one step ahead of the lawyers on Youtube.

It would have been awesome if it wasn't coming on the heels of the Mad Max Legacy trailer and Star Wars.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 10:02:42 AM »
It's a weird cam, but I thought it was underwheleming. Though to your point, it came right after the Star Wars geekgasm. If it was a"targeted leak" Warner Bros. is stupid.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2015, 03:19:52 AM »
All the leaks got under Warner Bros. skin.

So.... seeing it in HD, I'd totally watch this. Man of Steel was pretty, loud, though ultimately unforgettable. This probably will be too.


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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2015, 11:09:52 AM »

 Man of Steel was pretty, loud, though ultimately unforgettable. This probably will be too.

I realize I wrote "unforgettable" in my drunken haze last night when I meant to write "forgettable."

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 01:13:40 PM »
Wishful thinking.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 02:52:49 PM »
I don't understand why anyone wants to watch this.

I have ignored every bit of info here, but the premise is that either Batman or Superman turns evil and the other one tries to stop him?  Ugh...super heroes should remain heroic to the extent that their persona allows it. I mean I guess if Batman turned a little evil, okay...some mental illness. But Superman would just crush him. And the movie's over.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 10:57:34 AM »
Funny, Reggie, after watching the trailer a few times, I had the opposite reaction.

Not that heroes should fight each other, but that trailer presents an interesting premise in showing that the world at large is like, "Uh, a super powered alien just showed up. Is this the beginning of the end of the human race." In the Marvel movies, people are like "Yay, Superheroes!" Here, there seems to be a genuine concerned reaction that feels very Watchmen-y.

And maybe Superman is under mind control by Lex Luthor and that's why they fight.
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 11:24:07 AM »
Yeah...the Watchman vibe seems to be Marvel's masterplan. As I've seen it, there's been a very carefully orchestrated divide crafted across the movies and Marvel TV. Even Daredevil talks at length about the effects of the destruction of New York. The TV shows are almost overly distracted by the events in whichever movie that destroyed New York (all of them, right?) and how the world has changed (and not for the better).

This, by the way, is a theme lifted directly from NuWho -- the Doctor is a savior, okay. But at what cost? The "lonely god" motif of NuWho is all about how the Doctor is actually a threat to the common good because he draws evil to him, and evil knows that they can get at him by fucking with the human race. The Doctor's allies (UNIT, Torchwood), are all somewhat unsure and distrustful of his actions. His companion's lives are ruined. Even his own people despise him. Yet they all need him... They all need this ultimately tarnished lonely god.

Blurring the lines between good and evil with archetypal good and evil characters has become a common fallback in all of our genre narratives, actually. Not just Marvel and NuWho.

The problem is that these are archetypal good and evil characters. Superman, Doctor Who, the scavenger-cum-sheriff in Defiance, the man who invented a potentially genocidal AI in PoI, etc... Even when you cast them in a tough situation, and give them grey-area decisions to make, and give them a questionable background, the writing is ultimately shallow and the facets of the character don't match what the script demands. Maybe Superman does get mind controlled but, either way, it'll be a plotline as idiotic and contrived as when evil Superman formed from good Superman...whichever movie that was. Three? Four?

 

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 11:56:08 AM »
The problem is that these are archetypal good and evil characters. Superman, Doctor Who, the scavenger-cum-sheriff in Defiance, the man who invented a potentially genocidal AI in PoI, etc... Even when you cast them in a tough situation, and give them grey-area decisions to make, and give them a questionable background, the writing is ultimately shallow and the facets of the character don't match what the script demands. Maybe Superman does get mind controlled but, either way, it'll be a plotline as idiotic and contrived as when evil Superman formed from good Superman...whichever movie that was. Three? Four?

Yep, it's this problem exactly. I want Superman to be good, always and win, always. Is that boring, probably; but my brain doesn't want to accept anything else.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2015, 05:05:05 PM »
I don't necessarily think this will be as good as this trailer implies, but rest assured that I'm going to watch the shit out of it.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 07:20:53 AM »
Okay, so... I find that trailer exhausting and crowded and overly busy and it actually makes me not to want to watch the shit out of it.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2015, 10:32:31 AM »
Okay, so... I find that trailer exhausting and crowded and overly busy and it actually makes me not to want to watch the shit out of it.

Like Avengers: Age of Ultron... Yet, this is what the superhero movie is now: Big, bloated, and over stuffed with characters. I didn't write the article, but I called all this.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2015, 11:02:49 AM »
Okay, so... I find that trailer exhausting and crowded and overly busy and it actually makes me not to want to watch the shit out of it.

Like Avengers: Age of Ultron... Yet, this is what the superhero movie is now: Big, bloated, and over stuffed with characters. I didn't write the article, but I called all this.

I still haven't watched Age of Ultron. In fact...I had forgotten about it!

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Superhero Movie Meltdown
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2015, 11:11:20 AM »
It's, well...

exhausting and crowded and overly busy