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Re: Suffering Through Voyager: Do I call you Ma'am or Sir Ma'am/Sir?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2011, 09:16:45 PM »
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Re: Suffering Through Voyager: Do I call you Ma'am or Sir Ma'am/Sir?
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2011, 05:45:24 PM »
Right, so, when I gave up on Voyager, I started Enterprise... And am now on season three and totally obsessed. Except it crashes and burns in season three so now's my chance to think about what I've just marathoned...

I will go ahead and say that season one and two are some of the best Star Trek there is. I'd put this show at the number two spot. So TOS, Enterprise, TNG, DS9, and Voyager.

What really has clicked is how Enterprise was ruined not by itself, or franchise fatigue, but by Voyager. Voyager pushed away the core fanbase... Enterprise, then, had to start from scratch. And it really was too much to ask.

All I know is that it took about 36 episodes before they had a transporter-related storyline. And they haven't yet switched bodies. And there are no holodeck episodes. And the omnipotent villains are flawed and fragile.

I'm stunned... This show really got some unfair treatment. Treatment which led to season three -- a complicated, ludicrous, and, frankly, painful attempt to ape Babylon 5, with an intricate seasonal story arc that involves every episode and finds all the characters behaving in ways that don't jive with the first two seasons.

I'll have more thoughts later... But I'm basically having a nerdgasm moment where I'm watching new sci-fi and enjoying it. I gave up on Enterprise towards the end of the first season, so every episode has been new.

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Re: Suffering Through Voyager: Do I call you Ma'am or Sir Ma'am/Sir?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 12:33:43 AM »
Haha! Oh man... The horrible legacy of Voyager... Or, thankfully, lack thereof.

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