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« on: July 25, 2005, 09:57:05 PM »
Time magazine has a pretty damn good cover retrospective on the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings that I highly recommend. Unfortunately, you can't access it online if you're not a subscriber. I'm actually a Newsweek man myself, but the cover grabbed my attention while I was standing in the grocery store buying hummus, condoms, and spam.

60 years since the bombs were dropped and that seems just long enough for us to have forgotten about it, eh? Nukes just don't seem like that big a deal anymore. Just something else for bullshit politicians in bullshit governments to fight over. Yet reading about first hand experiences from H&N, I started to grasp teh immnse power that we silly little beings have harnessed. 350 miles aways and the pilots coudl still see the mushroom cloud.

I wonder if you could see it from space . . .

Another interesting fact I read from the article is how Truman basically inherited the H&N bombings when he took office. There wasn't one soul who thought twice about using them in WWII. If the Eurpoean theatre hadn't for all intents and purposes been won by the time the atom bomb was ready, it most certainly would have been Berlin that would have gotten decimated.

Now, we talk about "nuclear proliferation," but you might as well be talking about hermit crabs. Nukes just aren't as scary as they used to be because nobody really thinks anyone will actually use them.

I wonder though . . .

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 10:04:14 PM »
On a related note, I enjoyed Cass' article on the topic of forgetting these kinds of things:

http://www.greatsociety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=146&Itemid=2

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 10:18:29 PM »
Latest Smithsonian (I think) has a great article on Oppenheimer, too.  Plenty of the project's history in there and, yes, touching on how "disappointed" they all were when the Nazi's surrendered.  God.

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 12:30:41 PM »
they probably really did want to stick it up the nazi's ass way more than the japs.  and if they did, spielburg would've found a way to make it seem honorable and won an oscar.  

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 12:57:18 PM »
Now, we liked the Nazis up to 1940 or so.  We sent Hitler a fruitcake Christmas of 39.

You get the "Pacific War" group of old folks who hate the Japs more.  As did the European Theater folks.  (1) The Japs were different-looking, (2) They fucked us and (3) They were less dignified (in our view) towards the end of the war.  

Remember, the nuke people wanting to stick it to the Nazi's more than the Japs didn't reflect the American attitude.  Most of them were refugees from Germany and had an axe to grind.  So when Oppie says he really wanted to hit Berlin, it's because he was pissed off at the nazi's.  Truman?  And General Leslie Whatsit?  They had Jap-fever all the way.

WW2 for America was about the Japs.  Don't be misled.  I think we would have hit them anyway, even if the Germans were still kicking.  Why?  Because the Reich was crushed long before Hitler did himself in.  No point nuking them.