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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #120 on: December 28, 2012, 11:55:38 AM »
Not sure this is the most appropriate thread, but it's close enough. Fun stuff.

http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-removes-many-redactions-marilyn-monroe-file-131729814.html

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FBI removes many redactions in Marilyn Monroe file

LOS ANGELES (AP) — FBI files on Marilyn Monroe that could not be located earlier this year have been found and re-issued, revealing the names of some of the movie star's acquaintances who drew concern from government officials and her own entourage.

The files had previously been heavily redacted, but more details are now public in a version of the file recently obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act. The updated files reveal that some in Monroe's inner circle were concerned about her association with Frederick Vanderbilt Field, who was disinherited from his wealthy family over his leftist views.

The FBI's files on Monroe show the extent the agency was monitoring the actress for ties to communism in the years before her death in August 1962. A trip to Mexico earlier that year to shop for furniture brought her in contact with Field, who was living in the country with his wife in self-imposed exile. Informants reported to the FBI that a "mutual infatuation" had developed between Field and Monroe, which caused concern among some in her inner circle, including her therapist, the files state.

"This situation caused considerable dismay among Miss Monroe's entourage and also among the (American Communist Group in Mexico)," the file states. It includes references to an interior decorator who worked with Monroe's analyst reporting her connection to Field to the doctor.

Field's autobiography devotes an entire chapter to Monroe's Mexico trip, "An Indian Summer Interlude." He mentions that he and his wife accompanied Monroe on shopping trips and meals and he only mentions politics once in a passage on their dinnertime conversations.

"She talked mostly about herself and some of the people who had been or still were important to her," Field wrote in "From Right to Left." ''She told us about her strong feelings for civil rights, for black equality, as well as her admiration for what was being done in China, her anger at red-baiting and McCarthyism and her hatred of (FBI director) J. Edgar Hoover."

Under Hoover's watch, the FBI kept tabs on the political and social lives of many celebrities, including Frank Sinatra, Charlie Chaplin and Monroe's ex-husband Arthur Miller. The bureau has also been involved in numerous investigations about crimes against celebrities, including threats against Elizabeth Taylor, an extortion case involving Clark Gable and more recently, trying to solve who killed rapper Notorious B.I.G.

The AP had sought the removal of redactions from Monroe's FBI files earlier this year as part of a series of stories on the 50th anniversary of Monroe's death. The FBI had reported that it had transferred the files to a National Archives facility in Maryland, but archivists said the documents had not been received. A few months after requesting details on the transfer, the FBI released an updated version of the files that eliminate dozens of redactions.

For years, the files have intrigued investigators, biographers and those who don't believe Monroe's death at her Los Angeles area home was a suicide.

A 1982 investigation by the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office found no evidence of foul play after reviewing all available investigative records, but noted that the FBI files were "heavily censored."

That characterization intrigued the man who performed Monroe's autopsy, Dr. Thomas Noguchi. While the DA investigation concluded he conducted a thorough autopsy, Noguchi has conceded that no one will likely ever know all the details of Monroe's death. The FBI files and confidential interviews conducted with the actress' friends that have never been made public might help, he wrote in his 1983 memoir "Coroner."

"On the basis of my own involvement in the case, beginning with the autopsy, I would call Monroe's suicide 'very probable,'" Noguchi wrote. "But I also believe that until the complete FBI files are made public and the notes and interviews of the suicide panel released, controversy will continue to swirl around her death."

Monroe's file begins in 1955 and mostly focuses on her travels and associations, searching for signs of leftist views and possible ties to communism. One entry, which previously had been almost completely redacted, concerned intelligence that Monroe and other entertainers sought visas to visit Russia that year.

The file continues up until the months before her death, and also includes several news stories and references to Norman Mailer's biography of the actress, which focused on questions about whether Monroe was killed by the government.

For all the focus on Monroe's closeness to suspected communists, the bureau never found any proof she was a member of the party.

"Subject's views are very positively and concisely leftist; however, if she is being actively used by the Communist Party, it is not general knowledge among those working with the movement in Los Angeles," a July 1962 entry in Monroe's file states.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #121 on: December 29, 2012, 02:14:43 AM »
I love how they say, "redacted" instead of "censored."
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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #122 on: December 29, 2012, 11:11:43 AM »
There is a slight (purely semantics, probably) difference between redacted and censored.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #123 on: December 29, 2012, 12:56:39 PM »
There is a slight (purely semantics, probably) difference between redacted and censored.

So slight it's barely worth mentioning - it's crowd sourced censorship.
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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #124 on: December 29, 2012, 01:39:40 PM »
Ah! That's a very modern way to describe it. Well done.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #125 on: December 30, 2012, 11:22:59 PM »
Ah! That's a very modern way to describe it. Well done.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #126 on: January 28, 2013, 02:03:12 PM »
Pretty cool...

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Experts: New clues to sinking of Confederate sub

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Scientists say a pole on the front of the Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley designed to plant explosives on enemy ships may hold a key clue to its sinking during the Civil War.

The experts are to release their findings Monday at a North Charleston lab where the hand-cranked sub is being preserved and studied. The Hunley was the first submarine in history to sink an enemy warship.

The pole, called a spar, was once placed at the front of the sub and used to plant a powder charge into the Union blockade ship Housatonic in 1864.The Housatonic sank, while the Hunley and its eight-man crew never returned.

The sub was found in waters off South Carolina in 1995 and raised five years later. It's been in the laboratory ever since.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #127 on: March 11, 2013, 11:29:52 AM »
Well...poked around for my six month update of this thread. Nothing new... Though we're weeks away from the next Mayday Mystery.

I did find this, though. Some silly Amelia Earhart expedition (that's not been finding too much of anything):

http://earhartonsaipan.com/

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #128 on: June 06, 2013, 05:34:44 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_pass_accident

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The mysterious circumstances of the hikers' deaths have inspired much speculation. Investigations of the deaths suggest that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot in heavy snow; while the corpses show no signs of struggle, one victim had a fractured skull, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue.[1] The victims' clothing contained high levels of radiation.[1] Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths, barring entry to the area for years thereafter.[1] The causes of the accident remain unclear.[2][3]

Movie time!

http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2011/04/dyatlov-pass-incident-film-production.html

That's my paranormal paranoia go-to site, but they usually do a good job with stuff like this. In between the OMG it's Alien Bigfoot Vampires!! you end up with a very exhaustive history -- and usually some multimedia -- of their topic of the day. This one has some great stuff on the Dyatlov Pass mystery.


They made the movie and it's a totally gay Blair Witch rip off about documentary filmmakers trying to find out what happened. Color me disappointed.


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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #129 on: June 06, 2013, 08:11:17 PM »
Jesus...they're not even trying.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #130 on: June 07, 2013, 02:22:52 PM »
At least I can still make a cool version.

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Re: History's Mysteries
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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #132 on: July 07, 2013, 10:49:50 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_pass_accident

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The mysterious circumstances of the hikers' deaths have inspired much speculation. Investigations of the deaths suggest that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot in heavy snow; while the corpses show no signs of struggle, one victim had a fractured skull, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue.[1] The victims' clothing contained high levels of radiation.[1] Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths, barring entry to the area for years thereafter.[1] The causes of the accident remain unclear.[2][3]

Movie time!

http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2011/04/dyatlov-pass-incident-film-production.html

That's my paranormal paranoia go-to site, but they usually do a good job with stuff like this. In between the OMG it's Alien Bigfoot Vampires!! you end up with a very exhaustive history -- and usually some multimedia -- of their topic of the day. This one has some great stuff on the Dyatlov Pass mystery.


They made the movie and it's a totally gay Blair Witch rip off about documentary filmmakers trying to find out what happened. Color me disappointed.


Meanwhile, in an effort to have a show with a budget of $17, NBC is doing "Siberia" -- which is a drama about a reality show set in Siberia where the contestants make base camp at a place that suffered a similar incident as at Dyatlov. The game proceeds...and then things go wrong! Da-da-dum!

I'm watching episode one now and...uh...kind of enjoying it. It has the fake reality show feel that Series 7 captured.

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2013, 11:54:47 PM »
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...

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Re: History's Mysteries
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2013, 09:39:52 PM »
This somehow managed to slip under my radar till a few days ago:


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solway_Firth_Spaceman


To me the figure in the background is very open to conjecture.