Obama/Biden 08

[fajwat]

Obama tells Letterman he's not in race for VP
"Really, what we're doing is we're trying out for quarterback," Obama said.

Letterman persisted, asking whether the senator might reconsider if it came to a point where the campaigns of the two front-runners were ripping their party apart.

Obama replied: "I think it is possible that in that kind of situation, we might have to have a brokered convention and, Dave, we might turn to you."

Class, or close enough.  He's keeping with the humble guy sports analogies (remember his superbowl announcement?) to counter his booksmart image.  That whole "Dave, we might turn to you" is probably the best way to have handled Dave politely.

[nacho]

Blah blah, impossible health plan, blah blah:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/HealthPlanFull.pdf

People who can still manage some interest in Train Wreck 08 are chattering about this.  But when it comes to this stuff, it's total nonsense.  Make wild plans for huge changes and, then, quietly let them vanish 32 minutes after taking office.

[RottingCorpse]

"Magic fairies will come and heal you while you sleep."

[nacho]

So, blah blah blah, biggest fundraiser ever, what a guy.

Great...except his polling is sucking.  He's down everywhere... And the Al Gore rumor just pulled the rug out from under Obama.  That's who the Obama people really want to run.  Obama's youth culture base are all the faux-liberal misguided types.  Hillary's sucking up the middle of the road center-right Democrats.  We're watching the quiet marginalization of the golden boy, here. 

[RottingCorpse]

Nobody knows how this guy feels about anything. You can only get so far talking about the America that should and could be.

Fucking take a stand on something, Barack.

[Tatertots]

He's for peace and liberty. Why do you hate America, RC? Why?

[fajwat]

because America is NOT for peace and liberty.

[RottingCorpse]

Why do you hate America, RC? Why?

Because America fucked my girlfriend on prom night.

That was supposed to be a joke but actually that's a pretty good fucking metaphor for how I feel about the U.S. government.

[nacho]

Yeah, Obama's a shell.  At this point, money aside, the nomination is going to either to Hillary or a dark horse (not that such a thing exists -- we all have Gore's name on our lips).

[nacho]

So are we following this current nonsense?  Obama advocates addressing the al Queda threat in Pakistan, not actually taking the country out or doing anything insane.  His rivals have all gone nuts.

Obama slammed by Democratic rivals again
www.chinaview.cn 2007-08-02 09:56:52         Print

    BEIJING, Aug. 2 (Xinhuanet) -- U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama was slammed by his Democratic rivals Wednesday as "irresponsible" for his potential foreign policy.

    In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Scholars in Washington, D.C., Obama said "if Pakistani leaders were to fail to take action against the known terrorists within their borders," he would dispatch forces as president, removing troops from Iraq and put them on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains (in Pakistan) who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again," Obama said. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

    His chief Democratic rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who leads by about 15 percent in national polls, blasted Obama as "irresponsible" for his speech Wednesday.

    Obama's speech came a week after he was described as naive by Clinton, for saying he'd been willing to meet with "leaders of Cuba, Iran and North Korea without conditions."

    A poll by The Wall Street Journal and NBC News said Clinton has widened her lead over Obama, going up to 43 percent in July from 39 percent in June. Obama tallied 22 percent, down from 25 percent in June.

    Meanwhile, Chris Dodd, another senator of the Democratic, said "Frankly, I am not sure what Barack is calling for in his speech this morning. But it is dangerous and irresponsible to leave even the impression the United States would needlessly and publicly provoke a nuclear power."

    The White House defended its policy toward Pakistan, without commenting directly on Obama's remarks.

[Matt]

I dare to dream.

[Reginald McGraw]

So are we following this current nonsense?  Obama advocates addressing the al Queda threat in Pakistan, not actually taking the country out or doing anything insane.  His rivals have all gone nuts.

It would be nuts to do what he advocates.  Musharraf is hanging on to power by a thread.  He has taken incredible heat already for helping us in those borderland areas.  People routinely try to assassinate him.  If we go into Pakistan, his life would be over.  Also, that would signal the end of any working together with Pakistan on terrorism as the next government would be Islamic fundamentalist.

[nacho]

But at least it'd be a good time.  We need another war!

[Tatertots]

Forget that. A BRIDGE BROKE! A FUCKING BRIDGE? DID YOU HEAR? It's only the entire contents of CNN's front page right now!

[Reginald McGraw]

But at least it'd be a good time.  We need another war!

I don't think it would be a war though.  It would be in and out for us.  Then Pakistan melts down and reforms on the other team.