Obama/Biden 08

[nacho]

Okay, okay, don't vote Obama.  I hear you.  Easily done because, from here on out, it's weak on foreign policy...in a time when that is all important.  That's all we'll hear... The 2008 campaign isn't very forgiving when it comes to gaffes like this.

[Matt]

Forget that. A BRIDGE BROKE! A FUCKING BRIDGE? DID YOU HEAR? It's only the entire contents of CNN's front page right now!

In all fairness that's kind of a big domestic issue.

[nacho]

Domestic, yes.  It's global, though. 

der Spiegel doesn't care, though.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/

[nacho]

What?

Cheney, Obama 'distant cousins'
They may be polar opposites politically but US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Democratic candidate Barack Obama are related, Mr Cheney's wife says.

Lynne Cheney said she had discovered while doing family research for a new book that her husband and the Illinois senator were eighth cousins.

She said she traced a common ancestor of the two men to be a 17th century immigrant from France.

She described the connection as "amazing".

"This is such an amazing American story that one ancestor... could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths."

According to Mrs Cheney's spokeswoman, Mr Obama is distantly related to Mareen Duvall, whose son Samuel married the granddaughter of Mr Cheney's ancestor, also called Richard Cheney.

Mr Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, responded to the news by saying: "Every family has a black sheep."

Mr Cheney, the brooding neo-conservative closely associated with the decision to invade Iraq, has little else in common with Mr Obama.

Mr Obama, the son of a Kenyan man and a white woman from Kansas, has earned epithets like "rock star" because of his popularity among young Democrats, and a reputation as a liberal because of his voting record in the Senate.

[monkey!]

Dat der Cheney's a KNEE GROW!

GET MY GUN!

[RottingCorpse]

The only question about Obama at this point is whether or not he'll run as VPO thereby ending any hope he'll ever have of actually becoming president by getting elected.

[Cassander]

The only question about Obama at this point is whether or not he'll run as VPO thereby ending any hope he'll ever have of actually becoming president by getting elected.

what?  it's october 2007!  we've got plenty of time for questions and plot twists.

[nacho]

I love his sort of sardonic laugh at the end of it.  The intolerant "And that's my retarded daughter."

Dear Nacho,

This is the season where many of us get to leave the pressures of daily life behind and focus on what keeps us grounded -- being together with our families.

For our family, it's been so important for us to maintain our traditions no matter how hectic life gets. Just a few weeks ago, Barack left the frenzy of the campaign trail to come home to get the Christmas tree with the girls and me.

Today, I'd like to share a special holiday greeting from our family to yours:

http://www.youtube.com/v/hmB937L0bDY&rel=1

[Tatertots]

The only question about Obama at this point is whether or not he'll run as VPO thereby ending any hope he'll ever have of actually becoming president by getting elected.

Gore proved it could be technically done as long as, you know, you don't get fucked by a corrupt state.

[Reginald McGraw]

haha...I think maybe Bush Sr. proved it a little more convincingly.

[RottingCorpse]

So, after two days of really paying attention to the presidential race, I think I'm definitely turning into an Obama man.

[nacho]

I'm standing by my Republican Plot scenario.  Obama will be a disaster.  He'll have no support from Congress, despite the Democrat's slim "majority."  Just look at their record.  Obama will be a fresh faced nobody and Congress will swing against him out of fear, spite, or plain cowardice.  The Republicans will drop the hot potato of war and domestic turmoil in his lap and blame him when he can't turn it around after one year.  And the media will run with it.

There are many parallels to what Carter had to deal with here, and the Carter Administration was one of the top most disastrous in history.

All that said, the upsetting thing is that Obama's the only candidate who appears not to be a reptilian child-killer.  It's troubling. 

[Reginald McGraw]

All that said, the upsetting thing is that Obama's the only candidate who appears not to be a reptilian child-killer.  It's troubling. 

In May the Libertarians will choose their candidate.  And it will most likely be...Wayne Allyn Root!?!?!

http://www.rootforamerica.com/

I may have to vote for another party this time...I don't know if I can handle the 3 name thing.

[RottingCorpse]

There are many parallels to what Carter had to deal with here, and the Carter Administration was one of the top most disastrous in history.

I've read a lot of articles that have made that comparison.

[nacho]

Oh-ho!

(CNN) – On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, former President Bill Clinton criticized the media for not pressing Barack Obama more fully on Iraq, and accused the Illinois senator of shifting his position to reflect changing attitudes on the war.

"It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once, 'Well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn't know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war," Clinton said at a campaign stop in Hanover, New Hampshire.

"And you took that speech you're now running on off your Web site in 2004. And there's no difference in your voting record and Hillary's ever since."

He added, "Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."

Clinton's wife, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, is battling Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former president briefly acknowledged that his wife's senior campaign advisor, Mark Penn, was mistaken to claim that Obama had no bounce out of Iowa after winning the state's caucuses because the poll numbers on the day after were relatively unchanged.

Then he abruptly changed the subject — suggesting that Obama's campaign had employed underhanded tactics.

"What did you think about the Obama thing calling Hillary the senator from Punjab? Did you like that? Or what about the Obama handout that was covered up, the press never reported on, implying that I was a crook. Scouring me — scathing criticism over my financial reports. Ken Starr spent $70 million and indicted innocent people to find out that I wouldn't take a nickel to see the cow jump over the moon.

"So you can take a shot at Mark Penn if you want. It wasn't his best day. He was hurt. He felt badly we didn't do better in Iowa," said Clinton. "But the idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true — and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months — is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage that's in the media doesn't mean the facts aren't out there."

He added, lightheartedly, "Otherwise, I do not have any strong feelings about that subject."

The former president made the remarks as polls showed his wife trailing Obama in this important first-in-the-nation primary state.