Crazy Tony's Warehouse: The Fringe Candidates

[RottingCorpse]

How do we fix it, guys?

We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our black and oppressed communities.
We want full employment for our people.
We want an end to the robbery by the capitalists of our black and oppressed communities.
We want decent housing, fit for the shelter of human beings.
We want decent education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present-day society.
We want completely free health care for all black and oppressed people.
We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people, other people of color, all oppressed people inside the United States.
We want an immediate end to all wars of aggression.
We want freedom for all black and oppressed people now held in U. S. Federal, state, county, city and military prisons and jails. We want trials by a jury of peers for all persons charged with so-called crimes under the laws of this country.
We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, peace and people's community control of modern technology.

[Reginald McGraw]

Perot = close?

I don't think so.

The only way it can be done is for people to realize that they're getting screwed by the mainstream politicians from whichever of the big two they elect.

But...when you can have a "revolution" of the government every few years (94, 06).  Then people reset their brains on the whole "getting screwed" thing because they:
a) want to give the new overlords a chance or
b) are so strongly partisan that all they see is "Now it will be great" or "Now it will be awful"...regardless of anything else.

[nacho]

Close as in he got more than less than 1%.  Anyone who breaks the 1% marker has done an amazing job...

[Reginald McGraw]

Yes to the amazing job part, but it's not close.

[nacho]

No, not close to a win.  Comparatively speaking, though, it was quite a show.  He beat out Wallace's popular vote -- and Wallace actually stole a few states.  Wallace was a reactionary candidate, but Perot...?  He rose up in a weird and stale election and managed 18%.  There was no reason for that.  And if he hadn't of dropped out, or picked Stockdale, he would have done miles better...and probably would have taken electorals.  That's the other insane thing about that.  He pulled that bi-polar shit, ran with a moron, and was brutally lambasted by the media... Yes his success is against every prediction.

Politically speaking, he represented a serious taste for revolution in the new "silent majority."  The ultimate protest vote.

In 92, people did realize they were getting screwed by mainstream politicians, and used some fringe lunatic retard to say so. 

All it takes, in my book, is the right person to run (with a bankroll).  Where are all these whining movie stars when we need them?  Step up and run!  I expected Arnold to start a trend.

[fajwat]

Good idea, Nacho.  Okay, I'll start off with the Trey Parker/Matt Stone ticket for Prez/VP.

Let's hear some more!

[nacho]

Why not?  Seriously -- we've got these stars who make scads of money, spend it on giant mansions on the hill, insist that they make 20% more scads of money for their next film because they're so popular, and then stand around screaming about the state of politics or the poor or education or whatever.  Desperately seeking causes.

We have the musicians, also making scads, some of whom also scream about social injustices and other high profile things, who seem more interested in killing the tiny percentage of illegal downloaders instead of changing things.

You're a massive public figure.  You have a household name.  You're interested in this political and social shit.  You come out against politicians who bug you.  You're sitting on more seed money than Hillary Clinton right now -- and you made it yourself.  Why not? Or is all the caring about shit just lies?

We are surrounded by people who do nothing except feebly act on Rich Man's Guilt. 

Look at Arnold.  Some big time movie star stands up, can't speak English, fucks up when he wins, gets a serious vote of no confidence...and wins again!  You can't lose.  Alec Baldwin could win half the country just simply because all those people will go "Ooh!  Alec Baldwin!"

He could step out from behind the podium at the first debate and announce that he was going to raise Hitler from the grave and everyone would still go:  "Ooh!  Alec Baldwin!"

If these mega-millionaires -- and even a few billionaires -- are going to be worried about shit and pretend to be active, then let's see it.  They are the ones -- closer to the common man than many career politicians -- who can change the party system.

I don't mean Steve Forbes and the weird corporate fucks.  I mean the showmen.  And it doesn't matter if we get burnt...because all it will take is one instance where electoral votes start to flow out of the bathtub.  You get someone in modern America who runs a legitimate, non-reactionary campaign and can steal a few states in a presidential election -- not even come close to anything serious -- and that's it. The straw men will fall.   It's not about changing the Electoral College, it's about proving that a legitimate candidate from Elsewhere can play the game.   

[fajwat]

mel gibson

[nacho]

Gettin' the vote out in middle America!

[RottingCorpse]

That's it.

I'M fucking runnnig.

[fajwat]

That's it.

I'M fucking runnnig.

with teh mos def spleling skills and your fat bankrool.

[RottingCorpse]

Hey, if Geroge W. Bush can be President, I can be president.

[fajwat]

Hey, if Geroge W. Bush can be President, I can be president.

One word: potatoe.

[nacho]

teh mos def spleling skills

That made me snarf some of your ice cream.

[fajwat]

teh mos def spleling skills

That made me snarf some of your ice cream.

I hope you were eating it out of a bowl and didn't snarf it into the container.