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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #435 on: January 10, 2016, 07:34:43 AM »
I still haven't seen it. My Edgar Wright allegiance is strong.

It's basically what superhero movies would be like if we didn't have this glut of superhero movies.

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« Reply #436 on: January 11, 2016, 06:02:54 PM »
I stand by my initial assessment.

Somehow I saw Antman in the theater.

And...it wasn't as terrible as I thought. Wait for pirate.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #437 on: January 11, 2016, 07:13:25 PM »
I stand by my initial assessment.

Somehow I saw Antman in the theater.

And...it wasn't as terrible as I thought. Wait for pirate.

Consider it....pirated!

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #438 on: January 19, 2016, 11:52:58 PM »
Again, this is outside my realm of comic book knowledge so there aren't any expectations. And Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn/everybody's crazy ex-girlfriend seems like a lot of fun.


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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #439 on: February 08, 2016, 10:52:53 AM »
Super Bowl spots for the glut of Superhero movies coming out this year.

First up, nonsensical superhero team-up blammo #42-F... or Captain America: Civil War.


And a spot for Deadpool which while exists in the X-Men universe has lived in this thread GS. I'm seeing it with a bunch of folks on Thursday. (And it's getting rave reviews.)


Not a trailer, but the Ant-Man/Hulk coke commercial was actually kind of cool:


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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #440 on: February 09, 2016, 07:36:22 AM »
Deadpool confuses me.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #441 on: February 09, 2016, 09:21:26 AM »
In what way?

Basically, he was a stock X-Men villain (created through the Weapon X program that altered Wolverine) who ended up becoming a fan favorite in his own raunchy R-rated adventures. His comics were known for breaking the fourth wall which they've incorporated into the movie. They fucked up the character in Wolverine: Origins and seems to try to be trying to set it right in this movie. It was a character that was introduced at the end of my serious comic nerd tenure, so I don't have the love that lots of superhero fans do.

I'm interested in the fact that this is a full on hard R-rated superhero movie, which is honestly the only way the character could be properly realized. There are a few other superheroes who would need R-rated adoptions to truly work. (Swamp Thing being the first to come to mind.) We'll see how it all goes.

Are you still confused?
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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #442 on: February 09, 2016, 10:58:40 AM »
Yes, all that you said is what confuses me, as well as the promo campaign which is all crotch-shots and insulting the audience, intercut with rapid action sequences that I can't follow. It's the first superhero movie that makes me feel truly old... Mainly because I've never heard of Deadpool before, and I'm confused that a meta-comic exists in this otherwise predictable cookie-cutter universe that they've built around this mega-franchise.

 

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #443 on: February 09, 2016, 11:50:05 AM »
I'm going to see it Thursday night. I'm interested in the R-ratedness of it. Specifically how a super hero movie works in that sense. Although, Antman was probably a step down that path.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #444 on: February 11, 2016, 10:57:08 PM »
It's the first superhero movie that makes me feel truly old... Mainly because I've never heard of Deadpool before, and I'm confused that a meta-comic exists in this otherwise predictable cookie-cutter universe that they've built around this mega-franchise.

I''m not sure how the movie will ultimately make you feel, but I laughed a lot. The film isn't high art, but it doesn't aspire to be.

Deadpool is so winning in it's first act. Then it loses it's tonal consistency for a bit before coming back strong in the second half. It funny, and meta, and self-referencial, and violent, and a love letter to comic book fans (as opposed to fans of comic book movies). The opening credits won me over immediately, but that may be because they have this weird Hollywood insider feel.

Not all the jokes land. However, those are far outnumbered by the ones that do and the whole affair so winking and self-deprecating that even the bad jokes are okay. In that way, Deadpool resembles the Austin Powers movies. The writers are throwing any joke at you they think will work, and they're not proud. The jokes are raunchy, foul, juvenile, crude, and hilarious. There are moments when the movie feel like it's trying a wee bit too hard to be edgy, but those are few and far between. Plus, the pop culture references are fast and furious, and aimed at folks our age moreso than kids.

If there's a problem, it's that the hyper-violence while slapstick, takes a bit of getting used to in a comic book sense, though it shoves it down your throat out of the gate, so it's not like you start out with one thing and it suddenly goes a different direction. Yet Deadpool's origin story gets so dark and disturbing that coupled with the jokiness, the whole affair becomes a bit... I don't know, cruel? *That* is where I felt old. I don't mind gross jokes nor do I mind ultra-violence. However, the origin gets so literally torturous that it's hard to remember you're watching a comedy, and a bit of the satirical shine wears. It's like the mom scene in Shaun of the Dead except far less artfully done.

That quibble aside, the movie has a heart of gold. Ryan Reynolds is insanely likable, and the rest of the cast does their jobs admirably. Morena Baccarin as the love interest is especially warm and arresting. It's not necessarily groundbreaking structurally, though they shake up the formula enough to make it feel fresh, even though at it's core, Deadpool is really just your typical superhero origin story dressed up in stylistic gore and masturbation jokes. Still, it's so funny and so willing to make fun of itself and comic book movies in general, you don't care.

RC says check it out.
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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #445 on: February 12, 2016, 09:06:51 AM »
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Plus, the pop culture references are fast and furious, and aimed at folks our age moreso than kids.

Man, oh, man. Does our money double in value after we turn 40? Netflix is all about reviving the late 70s and early 80s, and I've noticed that the pop culture refs across the sci fi/fantasy genre are usually older than the actors using them.

Plus our conversation about the "aging of sci-fi." Even when they have young hot chicks like the cop in Lucifer, they make her the mother of an 11 year old.

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Re: Superhero Movies
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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #447 on: February 12, 2016, 11:57:00 AM »
Saw it last night. RC has the comprehensive points, but really a fun time. I had several outbursts of laughter in theater.

Also, and odd feel of pre-teen, "I might be laughing because this is inappropriate."

But yeah, fun!

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #448 on: February 12, 2016, 08:40:24 PM »
Deadpool confuses me.

This is a pretty good piece about the history of the character, a little comic book geeky, but gives the background in detail.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/02/deadpool-secret-history.html


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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #449 on: February 13, 2016, 08:32:39 AM »
I got the whole original series...reading now!