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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #180 on: June 29, 2012, 12:05:44 AM »
This shit sort of reflects the attitude:

http://veryaware.com/2012/05/missed-perfection-my-problems-with-the-avengers/

Well, okay.  I think commenter "deadpool" has this guy's number.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #181 on: June 29, 2012, 07:17:03 AM »
I know.... I know. There's no escape...

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #182 on: July 14, 2012, 03:23:57 PM »
You still haven't watched The Avengers, Nacho?!

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #183 on: July 15, 2012, 09:11:52 AM »
I'm trying to see how much I can hurt you, RC.

Okay, okay... Downloaded and watching....NOW! Live thread Baileys and whopped cream breakfast coffee freakout to follow.

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« Reply #184 on: July 15, 2012, 11:37:29 AM »
I'm sitting here on a high chair with a noose around my neck. If you don't love it, I'm kicking out the chair. (Actually, even I didn't love it that much.)

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #185 on: July 15, 2012, 12:04:35 PM »
I love the dead-pan delivery of the script. Maybe I downloaded the first read-through done by emotionless robots.

And what quality writing! I noticed that they used words with more than two syllables once or twice!

Captain America is much better in this than his actual movie. Which only serves to make me sad about how bad Captain America was.

All in all, things get better as soon as they're on the Daedalus with SG1 the aircraft carrier.

But then Thor arrives and things become a hot mess again. Suddenly we're in Movie B -- Thor 2. Thanks for watching that advance footage. Can we hurry up and get back to the 7 minutes of screen-time you gave Scarlett Johansson?

I don't get the writing. Thor defends Loki as a brother and, as soon as Johansson mentions his crimes, Thor gives up and says that he's adopted. Shoehorn, meet joke.

But, really, why am I complaining? I could be playing Galaga!

And they get points for having Loki call Black Widow a quim. I hope that catches on with American children everywhere now.

I also appreciate that we actually lose stuff. Like Thor's SHIELD agent buddy. Who is also the only likable SHIELD employee. He gets a good death, though. That's actually quite perfect, because Colson doesn't really matter. The perfect redshirt.

RC gave me this wonderful script outline thing that spells out the whole three act structure. The great thing about the Avengers is that I could follow that outline and I knew exactly the right time to go do the dishes and cook some chicken for lunch.

After 100 minutes of build up, though, we finally move into the apocalyptic invasion. So... that warms me up a bit. It sort of feels like a modern Doctor Who Dalek invasion (that is, all is fine and there's only an implied loss of life), but, well... Actually, that drives me crazy. After losing Colson, I was hoping for something a bit more real.  But here we are with an alien invasion with shit exploding everywhere and not one person is killed. All the pedestrians escape GI Joe cartoon style. Seriously...not a single casualty. This movie has one death! Colson. And a zillion of Loki's redshirts, I guess, but all of them are masked (or aliens).  There's only one clear human death. I don't know why that bothers me. It's just that the final battle is so huge and in the middle of the city with a million people at ground zero and they all just calmly sidestep a falling plane or building?

And, of course, I need it explained why Black Widow can't talk Hulk down or reason with him, but Captain America can give him orders...and even gets a smile. Is it a controlled thing? If Banner intentionally turns into the Hulk then the Hulk is reasonable and nice and useful? He even talks. This is the problem with the Hulk, isn't it? They lean towards comedy and it just doesn't ever work. This whole big climactic battle and we're laughing out loud at how ridiculous it is when the Hulk beats down Loki? We went into fan-made comedy there for a second. Leslie Neilsen as The Hulk!

See, where comedy is acceptable is after Stark saves the day... And then Loki is confronted by all the avengers and makes his quip. No problem there.

And I guess I need a comic book person to explain the after credits sequence to me.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #186 on: July 15, 2012, 12:19:18 PM »
So then I pick up the latest issue of Esquire and read the brief commentary on how The Avengers was great precisely because it was comic (and that rag doll scene with Loki is mentioned) and Dark Knight Rises is not that good because it isn't a comedy.

But that seems to be missing the point, in my opinion... Is that what we want out of superhero movies? Feel good laughs and throwaway endings?

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #187 on: July 16, 2012, 06:29:10 PM »
Thomas Jane made his own The Punisher fan film (with Ron Perlman) and premiered it this past weekend at Comic Con.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #188 on: August 21, 2012, 11:01:15 AM »

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #189 on: August 23, 2012, 08:48:03 AM »

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #190 on: September 21, 2012, 11:30:29 AM »
We mention Dredd in like five different threads so, you know, whatever.

Though I should note this was written by Alex Garland which amps up my *swoon* factor.


Nice...



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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #191 on: January 08, 2013, 03:18:09 PM »
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In a recent interview with IGN, Guillermo del Toro discusses his involvement with an adaptation of DC's 'Dark Universe' - a project which might involve Constatantine, The Spectre, Swamp Thing, and more. Which, he says, is currently called DARK UNIVERSE. 

    "Yeah, I'm doing it.  I'm working on it.  I'm writing the outline...and we already are in talks with a writer.  A very, very good writer. I think people are going to be happy with who we have chosen, and he accepted."

In unicorn land, Swamp Thing would be my superhero dream project. While Constantine and the Spectre show up in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing story, it'd be great to start off with a stand alone Swamp Thing that takes the Len Wein/Bernie Wrightson stories and adapts them properly before getting into the crazy (but awesome Moore stuff. I think the Moore reinvention worked because of the foundation laid down in the early stories. I'd start off with Abby and Anton Arcane, Matt Cable, and all the sci-fi horror insanity while hinting at the metaphysical to come.

But I'll take whatever Swamp Thing movie they give me, and settle for making my Dazzler trilogy. Somebody get me Fox on the phone!

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #192 on: January 08, 2013, 03:29:22 PM »
I'm holding out for a Wonder Twins movie.

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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #193 on: January 24, 2013, 11:09:52 AM »
We mention Dredd in like five different threads so, you know, whatever.

Though I should note this was written by Alex Garland which amps up my *swoon* factor.


Nice...



We really do mention Dredd in many different threads... But this is the most recent.

Watched it. Hated it. It's basically a remake of The Raid! Battle in a high rise.

Though one thing seriously stood out -- Karl Urban. Man, he owned the role. It actually makes the horrible, horrible, silly movie worth watching.

And Lena Headey playing a ridiculous villain also works.

And there's, like, this subplot about...something. But I couldn't follow it because it plays out only while entire floors of the building are being blown to smithereens (with no obvious resulting structural damage). And there's there's the cute blonde who doesn't wear a helmet because she's the only girl in the movie besides Lena (who has been de-sexed with scars and mannish clothes).
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Re: Superhero Movies
« Reply #194 on: January 24, 2013, 11:40:14 AM »
It utterly bombed at the box office. I barely remember it getting released.