Superhero Movies

[RottingCorpse]

Knowing nothing about the comic book, I'm sort of interested in this.

[nacho]

We're getting deep if it's off your comic book radar, eh?

[RottingCorpse]

I was never much of a DC comics guy except for the big ones; Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, etc. But yes, deep cuts is the future of the comic book movie. This is how WB/DC is trying to replicate what Marvel did with Guardians of the Galaxy which is take an obscure deep cut and make it wildly popular.

The draw here of course is Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn and Leto's Joker. (I *think* I went on the record as saying the tattoos didn't bother me.)  Harley Quinn was created for the 90s Batman cartoon and became insanely popular as a "sidekick" to the Joker. It's a real Richard Burton/Liz Taylor/Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? type of relationship. 

And Robbie is ridiculously attractive.

[nacho]

Fuck that! Mia Sara played Harley Quinn in Birds of Prey and if it ain't Mia Sara it's shit!

[RottingCorpse]

Birds of Prey

Thread is now about Dina Meyer.

[nacho]

Birds of Prey marathon tonight!

[RottingCorpse]

Most comic book fans are all up in arms about the new Fantastic Four. I just think it looks dull.

[Sirharles]

Sirharles demands a grading rubric. Fine.

I predict it will be both a critical and financial failure

Critical means a less than 59% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, their own "certified rotten" rating.

Financial is a little tougher. I can't dig up the budget and I'm pretty sure with Edgar Wright's eight year's of development that's intentional on the part of Marvel and Disney. The below article in Forbes (from last August) says "less that $400 million worldwide would be a disappointment."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/08/19/guardians-ant-man-and-why-marvel-should-not-fear-a-flop/

I'll get a number before the movie is released. (July 15.) It'll be an overall number not an opening weekend deal.

While the lowest Marvel opening weekend it still pulled in $58 million on a $130 million budget.  http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

[nacho]

Sirharles demands a grading rubric. Fine.

I predict it will be both a critical and financial failure

Critical means a less than 59% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, their own "certified rotten" rating.

Financial is a little tougher. I can't dig up the budget and I'm pretty sure with Edgar Wright's eight year's of development that's intentional on the part of Marvel and Disney. The below article in Forbes (from last August) says "less that $400 million worldwide would be a disappointment."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/08/19/guardians-ant-man-and-why-marvel-should-not-fear-a-flop/

I'll get a number before the movie is released. (July 15.) It'll be an overall number not an opening weekend deal.

While the lowest Marvel opening weekend it still pulled in $58 million on a $130 million budget.  http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

An acceptable loss that'll be recouped in Happy Meal dividends!

[Sirharles]

An acceptable loss that'll be recouped in Happy Meal dividends!

I'm not calling it a loss...yet.  What they also don't tell you is the marketing budget.  RC, I think this is right...yes?  When they say a film cost XYZ to make they don't include the marketing budget, which could lead into the $30 million or more range.

[nacho]

http://www.avclub.com/article/heres-how-many-more-superhero-movies-will-be-made--223041

If you are, say, 33 years old, you’ve seen the Joker go from Jack Nicholson to Heath Ledger to, now, Jared Leto. You’ve seen Spiderman recast from Tobey Maguire to Andrew Garfield to Tom Holland. You’ve seen, like, 38 Batmen. And with the success of Ant-Man and the anticipation of Batman Vs. Superman, the seemingly bottomless well of comic book adaptations is far from satiating its continually growing audience. Where does it end?

Slate has developed a tool to answer exactly that. Simply enter in your age and your gender and watch as the calculator figures out how many more superhero adventures you can expect before you expire peacefully in your sleep surrounded by loved ones. As the site points out, more than 25 movies based on the characters of both Marvel and DC are expected to be released in the next five years, and a 33-year-old man can expect to see 280 more superhero films before he reaches his average life expectancy.

Slate’s calculator even breaks things down by individual franchises and how many actor changes you can anticipate, though the relatively small sample size of Avengers films makes the hypothesis of 30 more in the next 50 or so years seem a little high.

[RottingCorpse]

Trailers for trailers are dumb, but this at least recognizes that.

[Reginald McGraw]

Somehow I saw Antman in the theater.

And...it wasn't as terrible as I thought. Wait for pirate.

[RottingCorpse]

Deadpool trailer = Trying too hard.

[nacho]

RC's talk about the demise of the superhero film had the correct date but the incorrect movie, eh? Ant-Man does well...the death knell gets struck by the Fantastic Four. Even the director is tweeting that he got screwed and implies he threw the film under the bus intentionally.