Superhero Movies

[RottingCorpse]

Also, Somebody said that's Peter Serafinowicz giving the "What a bunch of A-Holes," line. He looks different from the Kitchen Gun commercial.

[nacho]

He's in Pete mode from Shaun of the Dead there. Which is pretty obviously what they're tipping the hat towards, actually.

[RottingCorpse]

Did Sin City talk exist on a previous iteration of the forums?

Any nine years ago this was fresh and cutting edge. Now it seems like a cheap retread. The Matrix sequels were like that too.

[nacho]

Man...Geekdom is losing its collective virtual mind over Winter Soldier -- saying it's the best superhero film ever made in the whole universe.

I was seriously let down by the first one... But this has me interested.

RC -- you really need to do your essay on why superhero movies are in decline! Now that they're all the rage -- and getting raves -- we need that dissenting opinion on the record and on the front page for when the bubble bursts.

[monkey!]

It's because superhero movies have been overdone, and just start recycling ideas.

[Sirharles]

I'm going to see it tomorrow.  Of course I liked the first one.

[monkey!]

I didn't mind the first one too bad.

[Sirharles]

Okay Captain America.  It was good.  I enjoyed it and despite the four people in the crowd who dressed like Nick Fury, Captain, and Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., I thought it was a very good movie.  It's no oscar nominee, but you don't expect it to be.  The action was back to old school...car chases, shoot outs, and explosions.  None of which destroyed half or all of a major city.  That was my biggest surprise.  Despite the trailer making you think Washington D.C. was leveled, it wasn't.  I was very pleased by that.  I'm tired of all the over the top destruction.  And unlike Avengers you got involved in the characters.  It was nice seeing Black Widow and Captain just talking.  Not RDJ and...here's some other super heroes for you.

A little on the nose as to the message and they stole their major plot line from POI, but I would see it again.

[RottingCorpse]

I'm in family crisis mode right now, but hope to see it in the next few weeks. I liked the first Captain America well enough though it was sort of kitschy in a way this sequel doesn't seem to be.

I do need to write the front page piece, because we're in the whole Governor Tarkin "Surrender? In our moment of triumph?" phase right now.

[nacho]

None of which destroyed half or all of a major city.  That was my biggest surprise. 

This is because it's really hard to establish a TV universe where you have to deal with the emotional, financial, and political fall-out of massive apocalyptic battles. Thor 2 also decided to do more damage to Asgard than Earth. You just can't have a linear TV show set after all the crazy shit... Torchwood proved that, and Agents of SHIELD has struggled with it.

I do need to write the front page piece, because we're in the whole Governor Tarkin "Surrender? In our moment of triumph?" phase right now.

Yes!

[Sirharles]

I haven't been following the tv show because after 3 episodes I needed to jab pencils into my legs to keep awake.

[nacho]

It does suck, yes.

I'm just saying, from a story-telling viewpoint, TV limits the over the top apocalyptic movie scenarios. And Agents is the first of several proposed TV shows set in a shared universe with the movies. So now every shared Marvel-universe story has to acknowledge that millions of people died in a few seconds and New York was destroyed in a superhero-battle and yet try to set themselves in an otherwise familiar America.

This is something I hope RC discusses if and when he gets around to the front pager. Is an attempt to establish a small-screen audience reaching too far? Will it cripple the movies, in the long run? Or will it help the movies by forcing them to be more "realistic"?

Marvel's grand plan to saturate every medium with superheros through 2028 feels like hubris... How can all these parts fit together when they all have different needs from the budget and storytelling standpoint?

 

[Reginald McGraw]

Mrs. McGraw has been watching it...so I watch by proxy.

It's gotten better...

[RottingCorpse]

I've been talking about a front page piece for so long, I'm not sure it can meet expectations.

[nacho]

You've actually just been talking about excuses as to why there is no front page piece! You've barely talked about the piece itself at all!