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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #180 on: March 19, 2012, 04:47:24 PM »
The Prometheus stuff has been pretty good.

See, I don't think so. I prefer the trailers. The faux (or real) nerdgasm "viral video" is tiring.

Back to my comment after the TED viral video for Prometheus. It's basically off topic, isn't it? Just geekdom stuff about W-Y, which the franchise has quietly been obsessed with since 1986 and, I feel, has gotten in the way of almost every installment since 1993.

Give me those sexy trailers.

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #181 on: March 19, 2012, 04:55:21 PM »
Well, yes. The sexy trailers are certainly where it's at.

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #182 on: May 04, 2012, 11:37:32 AM »
Latest (final?) trailer. I'm sort of willing to give it a real shot after this, though geekdom is really divided over this movie.


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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #183 on: May 04, 2012, 12:13:37 PM »
Is geekdom divided because they paraphrase the opening monologue to Farscape?


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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #184 on: May 06, 2012, 10:22:37 PM »
Haha!

Farscape was fun.
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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #185 on: May 07, 2012, 07:17:02 AM »
Claudia Black obsession in the house!

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #186 on: July 08, 2012, 10:52:38 AM »
I forgot to mention I snuck out one morning and saw The Amazing Spider-Man.

I think I mentioned in the general Superhero thread that we're due for an "intimate" super-hero movie. This one's close. Sometimes it just feels like an indie drama about an teenaged outcast in love with the smart blond girl who's cop daddy prevents them from being together. The best scenes are Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone just being kids in love.

The movie's biggest problem is retelling the origin story. It really is too soon for this kind of reboot. They downplay it, and it's different enough that you kind of see why they retold it, but it takes you out of it every once in a while in a "Yes, yes, radioactive spider, Uncle Ben dies... can we please get another shot of Emma Stone in knee-high boots?" kind of way. Still, it's all tied into some "deeper" plot about who Peter Parker's parents "really were" which seems it's going to be the underlying story line of the movies in this iteration.

The performances are great. That Andrew Garfield dude playing Peter Parker/Spider-Man captures the character better than MacGuire did, and I thought MacGuire was pretty good in the role. Emma Stone makes it look effortless. (She always does.) And Denis Leary as her police Captain father is fantastic. Rhys Ifans as the Lizard is sort of wasted. The villain story is all but shoehorned in, and honestly not very well.

This movie's all set-up, which I can sort of see how they needed to do after three movies of Raimi, MacGuire, and Dunst. It's a great and emotionally investing set-up, and I'm certainly interested in what they do next. I just kind of wish I didn't have to sit through basically the same story I did twelve years ago just to wait for the sequel that will finally move the story forward.

Easily worth the $6 I paid for a morning matinee, which by the way I'll be doing for the rest of the summer. That's like 1987 prices!
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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #187 on: July 09, 2012, 11:07:21 AM »
Okay! So...the first movie is set up, the second movie will be passable, and the third movie will be overhyped and overblown as the end of the trilogy. That, then, will be followed immediately by another reboot, right?

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #188 on: July 09, 2012, 11:56:50 AM »
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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #189 on: November 19, 2012, 08:11:44 AM »
Watching the remake now.

Does Uncle Ben's death become increasingly senseless with every remake? 20 years from now, an aged Brad Pitt starring as Uncle Ben will die because he trips on a banana peel and hits his head.

So is the mechanical aspect of the webs comic canon? Because I don't like it. How's he going to keep up his supply? Does he just constantly break into Ozcorp? I'd think, after a while, the Ozcorp people might notice... Plus he's leaving all these filaments everywhere for Ozcorp to identify.

Overall, though, I kind of enjoyed it. This is the movie Emma Stone went blonde for, eh? The greatest tragedy of our generation...


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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #190 on: November 19, 2012, 09:11:57 AM »
Mechanical web-shooters are canon, but also controversial.

http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/19/the-great-amazing-spider-man-web-shooter-debate/

In the comics, Parker develops the web fluid formula himself and manufactures them.

I'm with you, I prefer organic web-shooters.

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #191 on: November 19, 2012, 09:42:02 AM »
Without rereading what I wrote about it earlier, my months later impression is that it was good but forgettable. The scenes that stick in my mind are the quiet ones between Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.  It was all set-up for the sequels, yes?

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #192 on: November 19, 2012, 10:20:51 AM »
Without rereading what I wrote about it earlier, my months later impression is that it was good but forgettable. The scenes that stick in my mind are the quiet ones between Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.  It was all set-up for the sequels, yes?

Oh, yes. It's all about rebooting the franchise as a whole and not just the origin story. In fact, they claim that they haven't finished the origin story yet! It continues into a second movie.

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #193 on: December 05, 2013, 12:07:44 PM »
Jesus...why do they do this? Amazing Spiderman 2 has four super-villains.

Seriously, what's the rationale behind multiple super villains?

And is this a new record? The Batman series never did more than three, right?

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Re: The Rise & Fall of the Spider-Man Franchise
« Reply #194 on: December 05, 2013, 12:10:12 PM »
I said in another thread, but we're witnessing the death knell of the superhero movie. The Avengers destroyed any chance of quality.