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News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« on: December 06, 2005, 04:43:10 PM »
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Group: Online Content Cannot Remain Free

BRUSSELS, Belgium - European publishers warned Tuesday that they cannot keep allowing Internet search engines such as Google Inc. to make money from their content.

"The new models of Google and others reverse the traditional permission-based copyright model of content trading that we have built up over the years," said Francisco Pinto Balsemao, the head of the European Publishers Council, in prepared remarks for a speech at a Brussels conference.

His stance backs French news agency AFP, which is suing Google for pulling together photos and story excerpts from thousands of news Web sites.

"It is fascinating to see how these companies 'help themselves' to copyright-protected material, build up their own business models around what they have collected, and parasitically, earn advertising revenue off the back of other people's content," he said.

"This is unlikely to be sustainable for publishers in the longer term."

The news section of Google's Web site doesn't display ads. But the Mountain View, Calif.-based company depends on visitors clicking on ads in other parts of its Web site to generate a substantial portion of its revenue, which totaled $4.2 billion through the first nine months of this year.

Responding to Balsemao's remarks, Google spokesman Steve Langdon said: "Search engines do not reproduce content. They help users find content by pointing to where it exists on the Web." Google removes Web sites from its news index if a publisher doesn't want the content listed, Langdon said.

Balsemao said consumers were drawn online by free content but this needed to change, he said.

"The value of content must be understood by consumers so that new business models can evolve. Industry must have legal certainty and the confidence that their intellectual property will be protected.

Balsemao said that good quality content produced by professionals would be the "gold content" for new media.

Last March, Agence France-Presse claimed the "Google News" service infringed on AFP's copyrights by reproducing information from the Web sites of subscribers of the Paris-based news wholesaler.

It is seeking at least $17.5 million (14.85 million euros) in damages. AFP says Google is breaking rules on the "fair use" of copyright material because its news site looks similar to the one seen by AFP subscribers.

Google News, which debuted in 2002, scans some 4,500 news outlets and highlights the top stories under common categories such as world and sports.

Many stories carry a small image, or thumbnail, along with the headline and the first sentence or two. Visitors can click on the headline to read the full story at the source Web site.

Yahoo Inc. has a similar service, though it uses human editors and pays some news sources, including AFP and The Associated Press, for rights.

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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 04:58:47 PM »
God, leave Google alone.

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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 05:07:37 PM »
Figures it's fucking France bitching. They're so friggin' bitter about everything. I guess that's what centuries of getting your ass handed to you does.

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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 06:14:05 PM »
You know, it's just WWII where they capitulated, and that was a happy accident for the Germans coming about because (a) The Brits are retreating cowards, (b) Rommel and Guderian got tank crazy and disobeyed orders, (c) Nobody was prepared for a million man army to come crashing down and the low countries gave up without fighting. 

I'd say that if any of the above factors were different, the French could have entrenched themselves.  Really, the big one is Rommel and Guderian.  Two good generals pulling a Caesar all over the French.  Travel at a breakneck pace, against all military reason, against high command's orders, and only stopping when they get tired.  Rommel pushed over a 100 miles past the lines the Germans wanted to develop, and Guderian did about the same.Their boss general flew out to Guderian and gave him a big what the fuck.  Rommel simply dropped off the map for a few days, went totally rogue, and emerged with a clear path to Paris.

Basically, that was the Blitzkrieg.  Two full Panzer units with mechanized infantry support going insane.

The French, sitting along the northern line, waiting for a very traditional hammer blow, suddenly found themselves cut off...pretty much by just those two divisions.


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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 08:30:39 PM »
Yeah, but a bunch of frenchies in cold, wet, trenches starving, shooting each other, dying of pneumonia . . . it just sounds really bad.
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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 08:52:05 PM »
hey, those men died out there so you could have your search engines and intarnet forums and cut and paste shortcuts and the word "teh" and all the other emblems of freedom, okay? 

show a little respect.










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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 09:54:19 PM »
Um . . . they're dead . . .

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Re: News at 11:00 for only $.99.
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 10:05:39 PM »
Haha!

Those men died for your freedom!

Idiots!  They died! Talk about missing the...goddamn...mark!

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005, 10:15:32 PM »
haha!
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