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Posted by: nacho
« on: April 12, 2018, 11:50:57 AM »

Oh, and, juicy trailer love -- with our first glimpse of The Gate!

Posted by: nacho
« on: April 12, 2018, 10:44:53 AM »

So, the best sci-fi show on TV returns for a new season and... I'm ready to call this the best sci-fi show ever made. It's certainly the best sci-fi series of books ever written.
Posted by: nacho
« on: April 20, 2017, 08:35:30 AM »

And...done. Now, we wait a whole year for the next season. Jeez.

Still the best sci-fi show on TV (and perhaps for this decade).
Posted by: nacho
« on: March 02, 2017, 08:25:35 AM »

Man, this show is picking all the right storytelling notes. While the book-readers know that the universe as the show knows it is about to change, this was something of a slow-down episode that highlighted the political conflicts and also flashed back to tell us a story about the last time the universe changed -- the discovery of the fusion drive. Something much needed because everything's going to come to a head very quickly this season.
Posted by: nacho
« on: February 23, 2017, 10:45:56 AM »

Season one was a slow burn, but season two really puts this on the map as the most important sci-fi show on TV right now. The religious adherence to the books means that they aren't racing to the adventure stuff. They're telling the same HIGHLY addictive story at the same sort of speeds.

It's season two where shit's about to go off the rails... And, in the books, it pretty much stays off the rails forever more. And it's a beautiful thing in terms of storytelling.
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: January 10, 2017, 11:54:40 PM »

Posted by: nacho
« on: November 11, 2016, 09:08:38 AM »

Still trying to hard...


Posted by: nacho
« on: July 29, 2016, 11:34:33 AM »

Book two here. And now I'm wondering if Miller is going to stick around and the asshole we never really connected with is going to be the "ghost"? They're changing up the books a bit.

Also lots of shit from the little novella I just read. Again, the show leaning more on the supplemental materials than the books themselves. Which is...hmmm...

Posted by: nacho
« on: June 17, 2016, 11:39:55 PM »

Rewatching! Just to clear the DVR...

The second time around, this is quite good. What it makes me want to do is reread the books (the best epic sci-fi series of our generation, by the way). It's loyal to the books, it's slow moving and loving and self-aware, and I'm surprised they got away with it. What's great is that it just gets crazier and crazier. They made the first season with the idea that we'll look back on the series in 10 years and be astounded at the long game they played.
Posted by: nacho
« on: February 05, 2016, 12:32:50 PM »

So...all done. And it was pretty good. I'm a little neutral about it, though. It was a slow slog, but I think they're thinking bigger picture. Season one was a ten hour establishing shot. There's no way for them to slow down in season two now because Eros is going to go fucking bonkers as soon as season two starts.
Posted by: nacho
« on: January 27, 2016, 09:13:32 AM »

Well, the long, slow burn is worth it, I think. Two episodes to go and they have no choice but to pack those final two hours with explosions and adventure. Thanks to eight talky episodes, they've established the ensemble pretty well. It was kind of a backdoor way to establishing an ensemble but, nonetheless, it's paid off.

Given that we're now fully in line with the third act of the first book, though, all the background political shit is, indeed, pointless. We're going to get all that next season...the constant diversions with nothing for the characters to do this season was silly.
Posted by: nacho
« on: January 13, 2016, 12:37:57 PM »

Oh, it's pretty. And things blow up and dudes get spaced and the set-up is great. But it's all going through those GoT motions without actually building up to them. We've barely had time to really settle in with Miller (who was the one that was saved from the airlock), so his predicament didn't have the same impact it could have had. The two guys on the ship were simply to illustrate that there's strife between the superpowers that's building to a head -- we haven't seen them before and won't see them again. Instead of building that strife up (in the books, it was thanks to Holden's broadcasts to the entire system), we have to have weird set scenes like that one to remind us that there really is a problem. Why? Because the protagonists are all sitting around drinking talking about their lot in life.

This is like if Stargate was purely from the POV of the technicians ad politicians on Earth and never followed the team through the gate.
Posted by: RottingCorpse
« on: January 13, 2016, 12:25:41 PM »

I was pretty enthralled by all those dudes getting forced out airlocks this AM.
Posted by: nacho
« on: January 13, 2016, 11:49:30 AM »

I'm struggling with this show. I love the books so, so, so much that I'm trying to stick with it, but... I don't know.

In the books, we had two stories. Holden and his crew inadvertently igniting a mini-war and discovering a corporate secret that would change the Human race forever, and Miller the noir-ish detective obsessing over a missing girl (and the two stories collide spectacularly). The events are largely from their viewpoint, and the actions of these otherwise inconsequential people cause ripples that get larger and larger as the series continues so, eventually, they're at the center of a gigantic story.

But the TV show is obsessed with being "Game of Thrones in space," and it's really killing everything good about it. Where the books used the actions of these relatable Everymen and women to build the world of the Expanse and, eventually, move us into the political stalemate between Earth, Mars, and the Outer Planets Alliance, the TV show is doing the opposite. Team Holden and Miller are almost the b-story here. They're overshadowed by the power playing between the three superpowers, the political machinations, the greater worries...

I suppose that would be okay except that they're also holding true to the spirit of the books -- that is, the three-way Cold War is stalemated until Holden and, eventually, Miller, stir up the hornet's nest. So all of the big picture shit is reacting to what our supposed heroes are doing, except our heroes only get a small amount of screentime and they spend most of it in exposition or character building.

Trying to GoT this show is foolish...and it'll kill it. We needed to start out small, and we need to get to know Team Holden from the same POV as the book...because, despite the efforts of the showrunners, it's all going to come down to the climax where Holden and Miller are fucking shit up. But part of how and why they fuck shit up is dependent on taking that long journey with them, and not with the faraway political wonks who spend the first two books pretty much in the dark.
Posted by: nacho
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:29:46 PM »

Damn, this show is slow. But episode four picks up nice and heavy. It's worth the build-up...this is a show about characters, and I'm fine with them taking their time. Because they're about to get their super ship and the rest of the season is going to be blowing shit up and mass murder.